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    Well…over a million marched in London to put a stop to Brexit and it didn’t do anything. Considering this conflict is even less so under the control of the British government I’m not sure what this march will do a damn thing.

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      Even if nothing comes of it, even if no policy is changed, it’s still important for people to (peacefully) express their opposition to something they disagree with, rather than meekly accept whatever their government does.

      This applies to any such protest, not just today’s.

      It’s also important that they get out and vote for change when they have a chance.

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        Hijacking this comment to say:

        The point of protest is to (peacefully) coerce the government by means of disruption. I’m making a huge boiling down of MLKs philosophy, but he was very clear: if you don’t use methods of coercion, the government has no reason to pay attention.

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          Also very important to remember, the changes MLK fought for only came about after he was murdered by the CIA and there were massive riots, extremely violent in some cases.

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            But not The Civil Rights Act of 1964. Presumably you mean The Civil Rights Act of 1968?

            I’d like to point out that while some things about the assassination of MLK don’t add up, conspiracy theories don’t agree about exactly who was behind the assassination. A civil case in 1999 pointed to the Mafia and Nashville law enforcement, for example.

            Although there isn’t sufficient evidence, I think, to draw a solid conclusion about any of these theories, I don’t think they are outside the realm of plausibility.

            After all, the FBI had expended quite a bit of effort to discredit MLK. They had mailed alleged sex tapes to King with a letter urging him to kill himself. And we now know that the FBI had put together a dossier of unverified claims. It’s also well known King was wiretapped on the word of J E Hoover since 1963 and surveilled since 1956.

            As threatened as racists in power were by MLK, it isn’t a huge stretch to imagine one of the more corrupt ones going farther than simply attempting to discredit him or push him to suicide, since those tactics didn’t work.

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                The CIA in fact, was born from alliances made between nascent “intelligence” agencies and crime organizations.

                There is a great channel on YouTube that is doing a series on the origins of the CIA. EyesWideShut is the name of the channel.

                I highly recommend it. It shows clearly how corrupt and criminal it was from the start.

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          It’s not “from the river to the sea, murder all Jews”, though, now is it?
          Seems a bit of a leap, what you’re saying there?

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            I never said I used it or made any assumptions. This is how some see its inference, which answers the posters question.

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              You said “it is”. And it’s still a huge leap to infer that the call for freedom of Palestine would require the mass murder of anyone.
              The chant doesn’t say anything about harming anyone, and it doesn’t say that Palestine is/shall be the only territory between the river and the sea.
              This whole furore about the chant is devoid of logic.

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                Pretty pathetic pedantism. You need more things to entertain yourself with my friend.

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            OK, well, “all lives matter” doesn’t mean “black lives don’t matter” BUT we all know what they actually mean. It’s called a dogwhistle. “from the river to the season” is also a dogwhistle, because the term comes from Palestinian organizations and people that want to wipe Israel off the map. You COULD just say “one-state” but that doesn’t have the fun wink-wink that a dogwhistle has.

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      With the Tory government in charge it won’t be long until we really do start hearing this from our police officers

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    Not really related to the articles but the little article image thumbnail thing kinda looks like an angry eye.

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      No, because the British government didn’t support Russia politically or sell them weapons, or tell them, “We hope you win”.

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      Why would they , the UK government was supporting Ukraine, what would a march be protesting against?

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        In Canada they got in huge trouble over a standing ovation for a “Ukrainian war hero” who fought communism as a member of, uh oh, the S.S.

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      No mate, what’s your point? Are you seriously comparing Israel to Russia, you antisemite you…