Hey, this is not me passing judgement, but trying to be informative since you are getting a lot of hate and seem confused by it:
Your question and commenting style are 100% match for “concern troll”, and there are no signs proving otherwise, like concrete examples of your issue or honest answers to followup questions.
Requests for examples are dismissed. You have commented at least 6 times that “I have given numerous examples” but all I can find is one comment where you say you wrote something like “that’s kinda messed up” which is both vague and contains zero context on what that comment responded to. No more examples.
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I don’t know what concern troll is. But I’ve been accused of being a troll before which sucks. I’m not a troll.
I’ve given other examples already like how I can’t mention brand names in any context and can’t say anything about certain governments, corporations or industries regardless of the content. Like literally anything about them, including positive or neutral.
I also struggle to think of examples because it happens so often and I’m not recording them and they’re just random things I wouldn’t remember.
Beyond that I shouldn’t have to say what gets deleted and I actually can’t think of examples because I’ve already forgotten about them. It’s usually completely random things.
Also, the question is about alternate text characters. Some people were kind enough to understand this does happen to some people for no discernable reason, and either were empathetic but couldn’t help, while others actually gave some nice tips. Most people took this post as an opportunity to grill me about what the content was and assume the worst about me in a number of ways and insult me.
It’s really whatever. This is a known problem if you look into it online and there’s even someone else in this comments section who said they experienced the same issues.
Maybe it will become more well known and people will understand that these systems do not always work properly and often delete some people’s comments in some cases for no apparent reason, with mixed results. Assuming that they always work properly is just an illogical stance in my opinion. Technology is fallible, and especially AI and auto-moderation.
This honestly reminds me of something. Before butt-dialing became well known, when it happened sometimes people would literally refuse to believe that the phone had dialled accidentally in their pocket. They thought that such an issue could never occur. Well, it did. And this is a real problem I’m talking about, and I am honestly innocent. I could easily be the same person as you, and if you were in this situation, I would be empathetic to it and I wouldn’t demand to know what you were commenting (especially when it’s literally lots of random things in various scenarios). If someone told me that they were having a technical issue like this, I would believe them. We need to believe each other more, I think. All this accusation of falsehood. I understand trolls exist, but we’ve all lost our minds if we assume everyone is a troll all the time. Tbh.
A concern troll would not use this opportunity to clarify, but instead respond to my comment evasively, deflect, play victim, and with a barrage of politely worded smokescreen.
Are you saying that’s what I’m doing? I honestly can’t tell. If you think that no matter what I say, I’m assumed to be a troll anyway, then I guess I can’t win. I did my best to clarify. My situation makes sense to me. I mean, I don’t understand what’s happening to me with the YouTube comments and why, or what the criteria is. But if I saw someone saying what I’m saying I think I would believe them. Saying you don’t know whether you believe me or not is one thing, and that kind of hurts. It’s more hurtful that people are 100% not believing me and assuming the worst of me. Do you actually think I’m a troll? Even now? Man this is crazy.
I don’t think the commenter is implying anything. They deliberately worded it very factually. You either fullfill that category or you don’t. They took care not to include that judgement.
A few words of my own: Mind that YouTube does this deliberately. They don’t want you to know the exact rules. If you don’t know the exact limit, you won’t be able to ‘circumvent’ it and rephrase your comment to stay slightly below. That is by design. That’s also why there probably isn’t an answer to your question in the first place.
Google anticipated what you’re trying to do and this is their answer. We can take informed guesses. But they’re frequently changing things around and adapting anyways, so there’s only so much you can do. And they’re known to do it with other of their products, too. Nobody knows how the Google search, or YouTube algorithm works, so they stay in control when it comes to search engine optimization and what get’s recommended on YT.
It’s an old technique. With blurry borders, you gain the upper hand. People have to pull themselves together not to overstep (which is in your interest) and you can’t really be held accountable either, which is another plus. It’s a dick-move. Und unfair. But it works.
It’s okay to simply watch a video and not comment on it
It’s okay to be not be able to talk and have your lips stitched up at all times… just kidding. But that’s what it feels like. If I have something I want to say, I should be able to say it (presuming it’s not problematic in any way, which it’s not). People here are honestly really hard to understand, assuming that I must be saying something bad when I’m literally not. All the assumptions people make. Imagine if you were in that situation, you see a video, you want to say something innocuous, bam, deleted. Try again, say something different, bam. Censored for no reason. It’s dystopian, and it makes it worse that other people can say things but some people can’t. I can say certain random things but not others, with no rhyme or reason to it.
I think you believe that this is a big problem that a large portion of the population here experience, but it’s really not. I have no idea what you’re talking about. Going by some of the replies, lots of other folks don’t either.
We cannot help you if we don’t know what you’re talking about, and we won’t better understand what you’re talking about unless you give us more information. That’s it, really.
You can help, if you’re able to. Not wanting to help with this is something different.
I explained that my comments are being deleted. No one needs to know what every single comment I posted is, in order to suggest a text character that works. I already gave some examples, but people are demanding more. No matter what I say, they refuse to help.
Btw it does happen to a lot of people, and I’ve seen lots of people complaining of it in comments sections as well as on Reddit.
I have three questions.
1: Why would you want to post comments there?
2: If your comments are being deleted, why would you want to post comments there?
3: Seriously, why would you want to post comments there?
So what did you post that might’ve been a red flag?
Look at their post history in this thread. If this is how they argue with other people on youtube, it is no mystery why their comments get deleted or they are banned from posting in a lot of channels.
I think you’re running into a bunch of detection that has very little to do with technology.
It’s absolutely technology. It’s not the creators, they’ve confirmed to me that they’re not doing it. It’s an instant deletion thing, and it’s just random comments that mention different products or things, or often not even that, just basic sentences. I never know when it’s going to do it or not. For example any of the comments in this thread could easily be deleted for me. It’s completely nonsensical, a broken system. How do you have so much faith in technology? Also, maybe it has other influence like YouTube or governments or vested interests, who knows. I’m not going to go conspiracy mode because I don’t think like that. There could be some kind of criteria to it that I don’t understand, but it’s acting through auto-moderation bots on YouTube. I don’t know why. I don’t have the answers, that’s why I’m asking for help.
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I would permaban that on sight no matter what it said.
Thank you.
I’ve noticed Youtube nuking my comments if they contain words related to money, if they contain too many brands, if they contain technical term, etc.
Comments that don’t have much in terms of meaning or information go through just fine.
So… Just, write like you’re 5 years old and split long messages into several comments.
What sensible words are you saying exactly that are requiring alternate spellings to avoid detection?
It’s not even just words. It’s phrases that don’t contain any bad language at all. If you don’t know you don’t know. They’re silencing free speech. And like I said, completely sensible things that there’s no reason to delete, while toxic comments and foul language remain undeleted.
The fact that you wont give examples speaks volumes.
There are lots of different things that are deleted if you look at other people’s experiences with the same thing online. Reasonable criticism of governments or corporations and industries, referencing scientific studies, etc. It does not say anything the fact that I’m asking for a solution to this issue and I’m not interested in starting a debate here over the exact content that’s being removed. It does not breach any rules, it’s unproblematic, and should be allowed. If you don’t have a solution, then thanks but I’m not here to discuss why you don’t think we should be allowed to say certain things.
How can anyone help if you won’t provide specific examples of what is being filtered? Can you provide some example comments that were filtered?
Why would you need to know what was being removed in order to suggest a character format that doesn’t get deleted? That doesn’t make sense to me. The actual content is irrelevant.
No one’s been able to answer this very basic question. Just downvoting with no explanation even though your logic is flawed.
What about knowing the specific content would enable you to suggest a text character that doesn’t get removed?
If you could suggest a text character that doesn’t get removed, then knowing the specific content, which is varied anyway, would not change your ability to suggest that text character since you would be able to suggest it anyway.
No one’s been able to answer this very basic question.
Because you are not giving us enough info to work with.
Imagine you going to a book store and being the clerk in this scenario
Cust: I am looking for a passage of text from an obscure book. Clerk: Ok, what is the text you are looking for.
Cust: I don’t want to tell you.
Clerk: ok, what book is it from?
Cust: I can’t say.You are being that customer right now. You need to help us help you.
The obvious answer is your Youtube/gmail/phone number are shadowbanned and you need a new account/phone number.
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