I don’t know where else to go.
The best thing about reddit for me was an endless stream of information and news propped up by user discussion. I rarely just scrolled endlessly through posts; I loved delving into comments on posts which didn’t even interest me at face value to see what I could learn from niche communities.
It was, hands down, the best, most information dense landscape I’ve ever seen and frankly I feel a little lost without it. I hope that some day, some where I can find something similar.
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I’m genuinely curious, why do the points matter?
brain
As much as I know it’s stupid, I still miss having a total points count with the karma
Why not post at both places?
If you make it, I’ll join.
12k views but probably 10k are bots and the others are too busy scrolling to ever use your knowledge. And then your content is buried on someone else’s platform. I think reddit (and lemmy for that case) are horrible for keeping and spreading useful information and I wonder why people see them as the best alternative.
Unless something happens, I’m sticking with Lemmy. As for interface and everything, I liked kbin more initially, but I feel like Lemmy development is moving much faster, plus all the third-party development at the moment. As I’ve said in the past, I’m going where the people are. And right now, that’s mostly Lemmy - and since it can federate with kbin, picking between the two is kind of a moot point …at least for now.
Since you have more experience with it, could you elaborate on what the real difference between kbin and lemmy is in your opinion? I keep hearing that kbin can interact with Lemmy and Mastadon, so it sounds like its just “better”, but I feel like thats gotta be a very oversimplified understanding.
Mastodon can interact with Lemmy as well as far as posting and commenting. On a basic level, kbin offers microblogging (your Mastodon-style posting) and a more sleek interface. The visual polish is a little better on kbin, in my opinion. Right now, I’d say the biggest thing is that kbin development is slower, so new feature rollouts are slower than Lemmy at the moment as Ernest works to make sure everything is stable as kbin grows. The API might be available now for third-party development of apps, but for a few weeks there, it wasn’t, whereas that started almost immediately on Lemmy with API availability. But with Artemis for kbin in beta, it sounds like that might have changed. Otherwise, though different, Lemmy and kbin are both based on ActivityPub, hence why you can interact interchangeably with communities, users, voting, and so on. And maybe worth mentioning, kbin allowed community creation earlier than a lot of Lemmy instances, though that did change quickly.
I think it just depends on what you’re looking for - a polished experience with interesting features (kbin) or more cutting-edge feature rollouts and updates more frequently (Lemmy). Of course, I don’t know what the future holds for either platform, so that might change if Ernest gets more of a team on board.
Basically same experience. Kbin seems interesting, and I’m in the Artemis beta which helps with browsing there. But Lemmy is just advancing at a way faster pace.
How do I check out the kbin?
kbin.social is the main instance, but there are others. Check out the GitHub for more info.It seems kbin is dead and unmaintained. However, it seems there is now mbin, a kbin fork. A list of instances can be found here: https://joinmbin.org/servers/
Once I got Memmy it was done. It’s everything I wanted without all the extra bullshit.
Memmy only exists for ios right? I have android and i use jerboa. It’s great, but sometimes a bit buggy
There’s a bunch of Lemmy apps for android kike Liftoff, Connect, Summit, Lemming, Thunder, and Jerboa itself. Sync for Lemmy and Boost for Lemmy are on their way too.
I don’t know if it would be as appealing coming from Android, but I’m an Apollo refugee and I’m enjoying wefwef because it indulges my muscle memory. It’s a progressive web app you can try out without needing to install anything.
In theory Memmy should work on Android since it’s written in React Native.
Memmy is as good as Apollo I’m sure if it.
It has the potential, sure. But you can’t really compare an app that got years of development to one that was developed in such a short time as Memmy.
Well, true. I may have gotten here though Reddit. But now I’m taken aback by what’s happening here.
I mean, the whole thing is open, FOSS developed, decentralized, being everywhere and at the same time nowhere? Call me crazy, but this in itself is awesome!
On top of that, I was greeted here by a community of communities where people are kind, helpful, full of beautiful and interesting insights.
So why would I be thinking of going somewhere else? I’ve posted more comments here in the past weeks than in the last ten years on Reddit. And I’ve done that because I’m genuinely excited with this setting.
So no, I’m not joining the herd moving to greener pastures. This field is green enough for me.
This is my permanent go to. Community already seems great and I hope it gains more traction. The main difference with the change from Reddit is I’ve gone from lurker to trying to be more engaged and posting.
It’s no longer just a Reddit alternative for me. Lemmy is Lemmy, and I like it. I’m still waiting for the 3rd party apps of Kbin though.
So far it replaced my casual Reddit browsing when I’m bored. But when I want to look at some specific stuff I still need to go to reddit but it’s just to get some information and not really to engage with the community.
Only if this place moves on from complaining about reddit and posts content. No one finds the “my ex was crazy” phase endearing.
So far I like it and therefore do not look around for alternatives.
I only hope that it will not remain with the first wave of Reddit migrants but will continue in the coming months and years. Currently, it is still very quiet for my taste, but this is also completely normal.
The only thing that worries me a little is the distribution of the communities.
I don’t think it’s a good idea to have the same community (Like a Subreddit) on different servers. This provides for an unnecessary segmentation of the already not large userbase.
So instead of having one big community for a Topic we have many small ones. This is especially a problem at the beginning, when the userbase is still small.
I’m curious to see how this develops over time. Whether the popular communities will agree on one main instance, or whether apps will reduce the problem to the extent that communities with the same names are combined. It will be exciting to see in any case.
Up until just 2 days ago, searching Lemmy on the iOS App Store returned no results. Now there’s Memmy and more apps on the way. That will make a huge difference for casual users who hear about Lemmy but wouldn’t bother trying to figure it out before jumping in. I can’t predict what will cause more waves, but a steady stream of new users seems likely.
People have been really vocal about their desire to group communities. Whether that happens on the communities’ end or on the user’s end via apps (like Multi-Reddits), or both, I’m confident it’ll happen eventually. I feel like either of those are a better solution than encouraging communities to consolidate, personally. Embrace the beauty and quirks of decentralization.
It’s exciting to see all the growth and improvements happening so quickly. The sky’s the limit for Lemmy.
My goodness you are so right, upon seeing your comment, I checked and there it is. Installed it in an instant. Why wasn’t this announced is beyond me. But I’m glad there’s finally an app for iOS
It was announced on a number of spots. I’m surprised you didn’t see it! It’s a great app and works wonders. Feels like Apollo
I didn’t know too. Admittedly I didn’t go online much yesterday. What communities was it announced on? It had a traverse tab, too, which lists other lemmy instances. Ahh, I’m so hyped right now :)
I am honestly not sure why it seems to bug people so much to have multiple communities, but I’ve seen this brought up a bunch.
It existed on Reddit too, they just weren’t the exact names so it wasn’t as obvious.
If there are two communities for the topic you’re interested in, join them both! There’s no reason not to.
I think you have to look at it from the point of view of people who are less technically skilled. The hurdle of Lemmy versus Reddit is greater anyway because the structure is more unfamiliar and complex.
And as a “new” platform you also have a chicken-and-egg situation that you have to overcome.
Imagine you don’t know Reddit and someone sends you a link to a subreddit for a topic that interests you. You see many members and a lively exchange. This makes it interesting and you subscribe/follow it and in the best case participate.
Now imagine someone sends you a link to a Lemmy community for a topic that interests you. Since the userbase is already much smaller, there will be much less going on there. If you now also splitting things up, it will look even less alive than its really is. And that makes it less attractive for most people and they leave.
If you had one big community instead of many smaller ones for a topic, the chance of faster growth would be higher.
As I said, always from the perspective of someone who is not clear about the concept and may not see that there is actually a much larger number of users for the topic.
I can understand why you like the concept, I’m not saying it’s bad in principle. But in my option the most important thing for Lemmy is to quickly become attractive for a large number of people.
And since most users would rather join an already alive platform than build something from scratch, the last thing you want is to make things look smaller/less alive than they are.
Interesting indeed. I already saw some of this coming up over android@lemmy.world which has been locked in order to send their userbase to another instance. So yeah, interesting indeed.
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That link also takes me to my phones email
Sorry, haven’t found an easy way of linking to communities like the old
r/reddit. I have fixed the link by linking it physically via markdown.Are text commands like markdown the same as they were on Reddit?
Not sure what you mean by that, but yes markdown works just the same here than how it did in reddit.
Just type /c/android@lemmy.world and it will automatically create a link in your post.
I think I have since found the way, at least on the lemmy.world website.
You need to type ‘!’, then it will prompt you with a nice search of all the communities on the Fediverse and when you choose it, it will automatically create a markdown link with the community.
I also miss the change to list all post under a community (e.g. “technology”) regardless of where it is. I have multiple accounts, which works as a safety insurance against slow severs. However, I find it a pain being unable to group similar communities under the same umbrella. Hope such functionality is implemented at some point.
Its just a matter of time for the apps to start having a feature to link together communities with the same name for easy subscribe/block.
There was a dev who said they were working on this but the app was still in early acces. I think the app was Nemmy
In my opinion, the only viable way to go for social networks like this is to be decentralized and run by the people. Anyone who is jumping on one of the corporate run Reddit alternatives is just delaying the deadline a bit. Eventually, Profit motives will turn those to shit as well. To me, federated services are the future.
Also, because it’s slightly harder to use than normal sites, the boomer nazis haven’t overrun Lemmy yet, so currently it just feels really great.
Also, because it’s slightly harder to use than normal sites, the boomer nazis haven’t overrun Lemmy yet, so currently it just feels really great.
😂 This is so true… Being liberal I always second guess myself and I don’t want this to be an echo chamber, I want my beliefs and ideas to be challenged, but Conservatives aren’t arguing policy nuance… They are fucking trying to exterminate people and elect a sociopath…
So what do we do… I hope we get diverse discussion on here, while keeping the Nazis away.
Agreed. I always look at it like this: Politics should be determining the best way to implement and expand human rights, not debate whether we should have them at all.
If only!!! Instead it’s at best a discussion of who deserves it and how much. Can’t say how much I appreciate seeing this comment it sums up my strongest feelings so much more succinctly than I ever could.
Dude idk. I love challenging view points for basic things but the challenging view points I’ve seen here are sketching me out way more than reddit ever did. And I’m just stumbling on them trying to find new communities or from front page. And they aren’t Nazis type things either. Sympathy for other governments. Ignoring or outright forbidding criticism of other governments.
I think it is one thing to disagree and discuss aspects of laws and society and how to fix problems etc but so far I don’t see that here. I still see a same divide it’s just more world focused now and not "are you racist or willing to tolerate racists because reasons " that has been most of US politics on reddit for years now (and imo rightfully so)
Basically be wary of what you see right now. I’m a liberal too and don’t mind challenging my beliefs and often re-evaluate them but here… so far all that has lead me to is being more alarmed because it feels more innocuous and if I was just a little bit less aware of certain things I could feel myself slipping into it. Oh and they present themselves as liberal.
As for American politics sure. I haven’t seen any nazis yet and haven’t yet. I think ive heard plenty enough from the other side over the last 10 years though I would love to hear something new but haven’t yet. Sorry for the ramble.
Hm, you mean you’re finding like government bootlickers or something? I haven’t strayed too deep into lemmy so far, what I’ve found has been ok.
Definitely have to be weary tho, I’m sure there’s dark places on here too.
So what do we do… I hope we get diverse discussion on here, while keeping the Nazis away.
There’s still alt-right people on Lemmy, they’re just isolated on exploding.heads due to most other instances defederating from them
A lemmen a day keeps the nazis away
It’s not pretty on either end of the spectrum.
Absolutely, I not some anarchist type who hates corporations out of principle but at this point the enshittification of platforms by large corporations has basically proven to be a natural law of the internet.
I’m somewhat in doubt though whether a decentralized platform run by its users can really keep up with all ongoing developments. Let’s say bots become a problem what about bot detection and banning or what about legal regulatory changes? That being said, reddit devs appear utterly incompetent and somehow they manage. Perhaps in the long run some non-profit organization, something like the Wikimedia Foundation is necessary, at least for individual parts of the network.
Maybe someone with more insights into these topics can share their opinion.
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Im cautiously optimistic about Lemmy. Short / mid term I’ll be here as it provides probably 90+% of what I was getting out of Reddit. I’m not sure long term how it will work out but so far I have no reason to leave.
I’ve also noticed I just don’t interact with any of it like I used to with Reddit. I used to spend a lot of time just doom scrolling on Reddit. Now I get the highlights of the news, check the sports sun for updates, and then I’m back to the real world. I like that.
1:1 complete replacement - been very happy with Lemmy and Fediverse so far
So far this seems like the one. I primarily browsed Reddit using Sync, and Lemmy is where Sync has decided to go.
If there’s a really compelling app for Kbin, however, I might give that a try at some point.
I still don’t really understand the difference in Lemmy and Kbin.
Kbin is host for both Lemmy + Mastadon (a federated twitter replacement) where you interact over both with the same login/username.
So, I’m still confused with Instances and how usernames interact with different Instances. I hear there’s different content on different Instances, but I’m not sure if I need a new username to log in there, or if I just don’t know how to log in using my lemmy.world username.
I hope I’m not too rambly. I’m getting used to the jargon and a little confused.
An instance is like your email provider.
You can (mostly) email anyone at any email address on any provider, but you still need a username and password to log in to your webmail.
With lemmy, you can read and comment on any community, and respond to any user.
e.g. You are from lemmy.world, this community is hosted on lemmy.world, but I’m from lemmy.one
Brooooooooooooooo
Thank you. I’ve been letting the instance concept just kind of float by undetected figuring I didn’t need to understand it to navigate it I suppose. But I much prefer to understand :) thanks for the concise wording
Thank you! That analogy clicks nicely in my head, so it’s very appreciated.
An additional note: if you want to subscribe to a community on a different instance, you need to search for it through your home instance
That helps a lot, thanks
Thanks! So I guess the question I have now is why would I not move to Kbin if that means I get two services for one account?
I mean you can do whatever you want. The fediverse is provided as a free service by a bunch of hosts. It not like hosts are offering competing services.
I guess that’s pretty clear. I guess I meant more of what are the advantages of just having one or the other or both.
No idea. I’ve never used Mastadon or twitter.
Mastodon is also able to interact with Lemmy directly to a limited degree.
It’s all ActivityPub, basically, and each platform just has its own different approach to how it handles that data. Mastodon displays them like Twitter posts, Lemmy displays them like Reddit posts with upvotes/downvotes and all, and Kbin has a bit of a hybrid model along with some sort of boost mechanic I don’t understand.
Mastodon uses the boost button as well. I think it’s similar to an upvote, it just kind of helps the post get more attention. Since kbin is a kind of hybrid of mastodon and Lemmy, it uses both the upvote/downvote buttons and boost button. I’m not sure if boosting Lemmy posts does anything though. I haven’t used kbin or mastodon very much so some of my info may be incorrect.
As someone who was lurking on Reddit every day, probably not to be honest. I know a lot of people are enjoying the smaller community, but to me it just feels… empty. The bigger instances are fine, but I was never interested in the popular subreddits like r/funny or r/memes. I used reddit for things like specific games, communities that are noticeably dead on Lemmy.
I’m using Lemmy more like an intermediary step between reddit and just quitting altogether.
Lemmy is the only decent alternative I’ve seen, besides the other ActivityPub federators. There was literally nothing else besides Mastadon (I had heard of this before and considered it) and kbin (only know about this since I joined lemmy.) Lemmy had the right combination of features, and a cuter name, so it won the most of us (I believe that’s a big part of the reason.)
Every other alternative to the big social media is too niche, and often dominated by a particular world view or specific community grievance. Lemmy picked up a broad sample of users that reddit just suddenly and indiscriminately cut off without a moment for second thoughts. We’re not a monoculture the only thing we have in common is we used alternative apps for reddit and we were too stubborn to move to the official app. That gives us a lot of diversity in the community and an edge on passionate eccentricity.
reddit has redditors
lemmy has… lemmings?
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