Hearing the movie is getting bad reviews. But Snyder says the director’s cut will be a completely different movie with a different vision. I admit Zack Snyder’s Justice League (director’s cut) was much better than the theatrical version and quite different (though I had mostly forgotten the original by then). Not sure if I should just watch this movie now or wait for the director’s cut for a better experience. Impression Blend on YouTube said it was ok.
It was so bad that I’m curious if the director’s cut could possibly have any actual character development or story in it.
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When the leader of the rebellion died in the attempted heroic scene and everyone was distraught and shocked, I was just think “Why do I care? He’s said a couple of lines and been on screen for about 5 minutes…”
And you have a great general reknown for his strategic abilities stuck in a gun fight. Horrible story telling.
I actually said this out loud too. Literally asked “why do I care?”
I was already in a bad place though after the vagina wormhole.
I don’t even understand how the characters even cared about each other. Even in the story it seems like they knew each other for like a couple days max.
The better experience is a film without Snyder. The Owls of Ga’Hoole is the only decent work in his (artistically) shitty career.
300 is good if you interpret the story as the oral history of the fight by the only survivor to recruit more spartans for a hopeless but ultimately existential fight.
300 is one of the ugliest and most pretentious film of the century: pectorals made in computer graphics, pompous advertising shooter direction (which is in fact Snyder’s “cultural” background) and a completely idiotic use of slow motion like we’ve never seen before.
I can partly agree with you if we talk about the graphic novel but I still regretted purchasing that comic, a pro-fascist and forgettable work.
So I watched this last night. It is a pretty bad film, with the worst use of slow motion I think I have ever watched.
It feels very rushed in its plot, and the fizzles out instead of ending with a bang. Very few action scenes feel good, from bad camera angles and slow motion that highlights all the wrong things. I would also describe the film as a collection of nobody’s, very little character growth and you spend almost the entire film playing Pokémon with them.
I don’t recommend watching, and I would be surprised if a directors cut would make a difference.
That “movie” was so awful I couldn’t watch more than an hour of it. I can’t imagine that extending it to three and a half hours will make it any better.
Same lmao. In the middle I just called it and everyone in the room was totally fine with that decision
I was actually enjoying some of the world building and the story seemed like it was interesting if somewhat derivative, but when all the bad cliches and corny looking slo-mo gunfights started I just couldn’t take anymore.
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You should not watch it, it’s dreadfully boring. Just watch the trailer to see the big fancy world building cgi that is like a couple of shots.
The final cut of a movie is often not the directors cut. The director gives the studio their cut, and then studio executives get to do what they want. Good execs with good directors know not to fuck with a good thing. But if the movie the director hands in stinks or if some bad audience previews get execs scared all kinds of things can happen
Basically, this is why the idea of a directors cut even exists. Because what you see is rarely what the director handed in when they were done.
But this is streaming and Zach Snyder was hired on the premise that he delivers his vision. There is no studio jumping in to make cuts.
Studios view the movie as a product. This process has a physical requirement to consume it of 2 hours. The point of cuts is to have more screenings in one room rather than hiring 2 rooms to show the movie. That studio integrity is met with frustration when they keep a movie as the director intended and the theater has 4 screening per day because it’s a 3 hour movie with 15 minutes between showings for cleaning.
Movie theaters are also putting pressure on the studio for short movies because they want people to move through the theater. Movie theaters don’t care about what they show as long as it brings in bodies who will eat and drink concessions. The movies are the feed and people are the cattle to be processed as quickly as possible.
The theaters want a shorter movie and the studio wants a shorter movie, so really the only person who can hold up the idea of a long movie is the director with the promise the movie will guarantee repeat viewings despite the smaller number of screenings. And Zach Snyder can’t make that promise.
His movies are the narrative equivalent of a Michael Bay movie - except Bay has better narrative and understands how to build tension. Snyder is incapable of making a low budget movie about genuine people. He is only talented when picking the color of blaster shots. His characters are trash. His plots are boring. His camera work nearly incomprehensible. There is no amount of work he can do to make his original cut work because there is nothing of substance that was cut out.
Streaming studios are still studios, and they act the exact same. Yes, there is a studio jumping in to make cuts. Of course they are. The man is saying there is a director’s cut.
Usually I’d agree with you, but Snyder said in interviews that there weren’t any demands from the studio for cuts. He just wants to make an R rated version and Netflix likes the publicity from having a Snyder cut. It worked for DC, so they use it as an advertisement to generate buzz around the movie.
Batman v Superman also had a “Director’s Cut” in the form of the Ultimate Edition, with additional scenes/context that weren’t suitable for the theatrical release due to length. Now that one wasn’t a radically difference movie, but it seems to be a recurring struggle Snyder has lately.
I don’t think another cut will help things.
Yes, I would wait. It can’t get any worse.
I’ll be honest, it was fine. Not as “bad” as I kept hearing.
It’s meh. The VFX were good enough. The story needs tons of improvement. The visuals are definitely Snydery.
I await the Snyder Cut.
I mean it’s a movie. Who knows how you will enjoy it in the first place and who knows how a future version of the movie will turn out compared to the original?
Unless it’s an obvious dumpster fire with 0% reviews go and see it for yourself and form your own opinion.
I guess I’m wondering if people think it’s worth a watch in its current form
The current version is not a good movie at all. It’s a Stat Wars knockoff with a boring story and the visual effects that aren’t that great.
I’ve read that Snyder claims the directors cut is completely different, it’ll be R-rated, extra violent, etc etc. I really don’t see how making it R-rated is going to fix the problems it has. I’m not much of a fan of Snyder though, so I guess you should take my opinion with a grain of salt.
It’s just a setup for the second movie. Personally I enjoyed it but I came in with low expectations. I agree with others CG was weak and too much slow mo but w/e I want sci-fi.
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I realise it’s a dumb question
No it’s perfectly reasonable to ask for opinions, didn’t mean to sound harsh, just don’t rely too much on other people’s opinions.
If I read 10 times that a movie has a specific issue then I will automatically look for this while watching and ruin my own experience.
I wouldn’t watch it again, but given that I’d already decided to do fuck all with my evening and veg out on Netflix I’m not as angry as most of you. It was dumb. I’ll probably watch part 2 in pieces if I watch it
I’m so bored by the over stylised slow mo. It got so tedious once the action started. The backdrops looked cool but the green screen wasn’t even done well. Between the shitty green screen, indigent slow mo and overall lack of cohesive story it was impossible to get immersed. The plot was just a hodgepodge of fellowship of the ring pokemon team building of a bunch of nobodies who of course had to been and Haw before joining up reluctantly. At least in justice league the Flash went against this trope and it was one of the better scenes in that shitty film.
Between this atrocity, the latest marvel offerings, the latest Indiana Jones, and the latest Avatar I’m wondering if my film palate is too discerning these days or are big films just getting shittier? Everything is somehow overwrought yet derivative. The last thing I watched that was ambitious that I remember blowing me away was the Watchmen series
Dial of Destiny sucked. Check out Invincible on Prime.
Ooohh. Yeah. Invincible is great
Between this atrocity, the latest marvel offerings, the latest Indiana Jones, and the latest Avatar I’m wondering if my film palate is too discerning these days or are big films just getting shittier? Everything is somehow overwrought yet derivative. The last thing I watched that was ambitious that I remember blowing me away was the Watchmen series
I feel this too, I’m so sick of unoriginal continuations of existing IP. I’ve been enjoying A24 movies and shows though, Beef and EEAAO absolutely blew me away. I also loved Pearl and Frankenstein’s Monster’s Monster, Frankenstein. I love their metamodern style.
Edit: not A24, but Barry was also fantastic. Plot points that you expect to be dragged out over 1-2 seasons are resolved quickly, because the show has a dense, concise story to tell and doesn’t waste time.
+100 for Barry, that show was too good and underrated. I don’t know if I’ll find a show as great as that for a while, but thankful Fargo is still on.
As far as A24, I think Robert Eggers’ ‘The Lighthouse’ and Ari Aster’s ‘Beau Is Afraid’ are my favorites.
Another weird movie I enjoyed recently is Triangle of Sadness (2022). Oh and ‘Enemy’ (2013) was so artistic, I think. Also ‘The Banshees of Inisherin’ (2022), what a movie.
Boots Riley’s debut film and TV show, Sorry to Bother You and I’m a Virgo, respectively, were amazing as well.
I haven’t seen the ‘X’ films or Frankenstein’s (…) but I will have to now.
I found the new Avatar lacklustre as well. Dune wasn’t my thing either. Big hopes for the Jak and Daxter film but that’s mostly because I hope it will spawn a new game. Enjoying the fifth season of the TV show ‘Fargo’ airing at the moment which is mostly consistently good.
I’m interested about the Army of the Dead sequel ‘Planet of the Dead’ as crazy as it sounds.
Rounding out my viewing of this snooze fest, there is no way a directors cut can save this film, and certainly adding more time isn’t going to improve it. Dull characters, uninspired environments, generic spacecraft, I’m really struggling to understand how this much time and money can be invested into something so mediocre.
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I think Australians do the worst New Zealand accents and vice versa. So maybe closely related countries just don’t understand each other/their differences as much as vastly different countries in certain cases? In some ways it’s the other way around tho so idk.
As someone who generally likes Snyder’s movies but didn’t particularly care for Rebel Moon, it’s hard to say. The movie is both too long and too short. It’s too long in that the middle of the film drags and there are unnecessary scenes that definitely should have been cut (such as most of the scenes with the soldiers at the beginning of the film and the ending of the bird scene.) It’s too short in that most of the characters feel undeveloped and it’s hard to get emotionally invested in the climax.
I feel like some of the fight scenes, particularly an early one involving an axe, could use the extra blood effects from the R cut. It just felt really bland with cutaway clean kills, and kind of undermines the movie’s gritty tone with more fantasy violence. Later fights in the movie use more fantasy elements (like laser weapons) and these are fine without the blood effects.
Reportedly the R cut will have at least 40 extra minutes, which may really help flesh out the plot. I’d especially like it if the scene where Kora recites her character bio to the camera is cut and replaced with scenes showing us all those things, but that’s unlikely. More likely, some characters will be more fleshed out, but also a bunch of extraneous stuff will be added as well. Neither will likely fix the underlying core of the film that’s essentially Seven Samurai meets Star Wars, but does neither particularly well.
If you are going to watch it, I would probably wait for the extended cut, though it’s hard to tell whether there will be much, if any, improvement.
So it’s overly long and misuses its time. Wow.
That’s Zach Snyder in general. The only way to really watch his films are extended cuts, because the theatrical cuts tend to cut out all the exposition and focus on the core of the movie. But the core of the movie doesn’t make much sense without the exposition. The result is an overlong movie that feels like it should be shorter, but nothing can really be trimmed because the film tried to do too much. BvS is a prime example of this.
I think the guy gets way too many ideas in his head and has trouble telling a single, focused story with them.
It had more slow motion scenes than an Indian action movie. Shallow and cliché dialogue ripping off from the star wars universe. Snyder was plastered all over the credits. If this isn’t his cut then take the damn name off the credits. No matter how you cut it it’ll have the same actors, storyline, dialogue depth and in-your-face visuals. Snyder really is a subtle and sophisticated guy.
Unwatchable mess. Mulan meets Star Wars. Was there an actual plot?
Save the farmers something something build up group of good time heroes something something betrayal something something palpatine pt2
I did manage to get (on the second try) to THE OBLIGATORY BAR SCENE before killing it dead.
