The wealthy are savvy but with the boomers gone they lose a lot of their support. Of course they will try to maintain the status quo, but the people will be affected by the material conditions and see the truth. The only thing we have to fear is hate, but MTG, Boebart and Desantis were all elected by Boomers. Young people don’t vote for those idiots. I’m more concerned about Andrew Tate.

This isn’t new though, many boomers were the hippies at one point, they had the photocopier, fairness doctrine TV & Radio and liberal attitudes for sex, gender, and civil rights.

But the same tactics were used to stop and convert many of them, plus around half of them were the same sort of assholes that give them a bad name now.

The results speak for themselves. The majority of their generation’s attitudes about the results indicate satisfaction with the results.

Humans are a co-operative species, same goes for our ape and monkey cousins.

It is this instinctual nature of working together that enabled us to take down bigger prey, settle new lands, and become the dominant species on the planet.

The rich are very concerned about the fact that all statistical evidence pointing to younger generations being starkly more socially minded than boomers. Don’t forget that Millennials have lived through a major economic crisis. Just like the Great Depression, that generally makes people realize that Capitalism is bullshit.

The wealthy are funding massive propaganda campaigns as a result. They are unfortunately making some in roads with young men. But overall I don’t think it will be enough.

Here’s to hoping. It’s exhausting. I can’t have a single conversation without them slyly trying to slip in some earworm or go off on a tirade unexpectedly because I inadvertently trigger them.

It’s worth the effort though. Thank you, citizen, for taking the time to do so.

I would just kindly tell them to shut the fuck up

You can infer the age you entered society from the age you left the womb.

I don’t understand, are you confused at the age range for Boomers? It literally says it in the image…

The generally accepted window for Baby Boomers, despite horny soldiers being home from WW2 for many years after 1945, is the window written in the post.

And everyone magically has an iPhone. Those poor privileged genz

Incel? Oh no! My husband is going to be devastated by this news

Who even are you? Are you 12?

You will ALWAYS be voting for the lesser of two evils.

Unless you run for office yourself.

Or write in someone you believe would actually be good at the job. Then you don’t have to vote for someone you believe to be unqualified.

Again, my father was a socialist. He wrote a his dissertation on Shaw and the socialist aspects of one of his plays. He was British and said he was never more proud of his homeland then when he helped it usher in the National Health Service with his vote. When I moved here to Terre Haute, Indiana, he made sure to get me to take him to the Eugene V. Debs museum because of how much he admired debs. How does that make him an 80s liberal? Do please explain.

I was speaking of the word used as an identifier/label, ‘progressive’, vs ‘liberal’, and not the content of what was being said, at all. No disrespect was meant towards the comment, just a tongue-and-cheeck attempt at discussing the labels. As I mentioned before, concerning the content of your comment …

(BTW, your comment was a good read.)

When it comes to my comment discussing labels, today’s ‘liberal’ is considered a ‘centrist’ by today’s younger generations (which pisses me off to no end, but that’s another discussion for another time), and what they think of as liberal they call progressive, hence my comment.

And for the record (not trying to measure dicks here, but only because you quoted your dads history) I’m a Gen-Xer who was born/raised in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles in the 70’s/80’s, a perverbial “Valley Dude”, and lived ‘in the capital of Liberalism’ the vast majority of my life. Liberalism of that day is not what Progressivism is today. I feel that I could be considered a ‘subject expert’ in a court case when it came to Liberals and Liberalism of that time.

I’m what world is this kind of pedantry useful?

In what world is this kind of verbal policing useful?

No need to be hostile.

Concerning your question, at the very least, my world. But I suspect most people can recognize a conversation comment about how different generations see things and identify them, for its own sake. You know, Lemmy is about conversations about subjects.

That’s how statistics work. You take a sample and abstract it to the population. If you required every one to be checked, then no numbers of any sort would be made up because that’s too much work.

Yeah sure, I’m aware of how statistics work. I’m just not confident that they are interpreting the statistics correctly.

This is precisely the thing I’ve noticed recently. You make a statement like yours and suddenly people start crying about not generalizing or how there’s really no such thing as generations and whatever other nonsense. Frankly, I don’t think that too many people over the age of 50 are on Lemmy yet so I think that there are some people who just want to be contrary taking the chance to.

It must be weird judging a whole generation based only on what you know from learning about via social media.

Millenials would chime in on some hate I think.

Oof, does it a least list miscarriages too? Not that we’d know the actual number

A hell of a lot more than 300,000 people experimented with drugs and protested Vietnam.

People seem to have this view that everyone in the '60s was a hippie but that’s just not true.

'60s, maybe not, but 70s? There was a lot more of them then.

But yeah, not everyone was.

It sure seems like they feel that way about social security.

Uh huh. Here’s some historical views of the ‘yoot’.

“[Young people] are high-minded because they have not yet been humbled by life, nor have they experienced the force of circumstances… They think they know everything, and are always quite sure about it.” Rhetoric, Aristotle - 4th Century BC

“The beardless youth… does not foresee what is useful, squandering his money.” Horace - 1st Century BC

Our sires’ age was worse than our grandsires’. We, their sons, are more worthless than they; so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more corrupt. Book III of Odes, Horace - circa 20 BC

In all things I yearn for the past. Modern fashions seem to keep on growing more and more debased. I find that even among the splendid pieces of furniture built by our master cabinetmakers, those in the old forms are the most pleasing. And as for writing letters, surviving scraps from the past reveal how superb the phrasing used to be. The ordinary spoken language has also steadily coarsened. People used to say “raise the carriage shafts” or “trim the lamp wick,” but people today say “raise it” or “trim it.” When they should say, “Let the men of the palace staff stand forth!” they say, “Torches! Let’s have some light!” Instead of calling the place where the lectures on the Sutra of the Golden Light are delivered before the emperor “the Hall of the Imperial Lecture,” they shorten it to “the Lecture Hall,” a deplorable corruption, an old gentleman complained. Tsurezuregusa (Essays in Idleness), Yoshida Kenkō - 1330 - 1332

Youth were never more sawcie, yea never more savagely saucie . . . the ancient are scorned, the honourable are contemned, the magistrate is not dreaded. The Wise-Man’s Forecast against the Evill Time, Thomas Barnes - 1624

… I find by sad Experience how the Towns and Streets are filled with lewd wicked Children, and many Children as they have played about the Streets have been heard to curse and swear and call one another Nick-names, and it would grieve ones Heart to hear what bawdy and filthy Communications proceeds from the Mouths of such… A Little Book for Children and Youth, Robert Russel - 1695

“Whither are the manly vigour and athletic appearance of our forefathers flown? Can these be their legitimate heirs? Surely, no; a race of effeminate, self-admiring, emaciated fribbles can never have descended in a direct line from the heroes of Potiers and Agincourt…” Letter in Town and Country magazine republished in Paris Fashion: A Cultural History - 1771

The total neglect of this art [speaking] has been productive of the worst consequences…in the conduct of all affairs ecclesiastical and civil, in church, in parliament, courts of justice…the wretched state of elocution is apparent to persons of any discernment and taste… if something is not done to stop this growing evil …English is likely to become a mere jargon, which every one may pronounce as he pleases. A General Dictionary of the English Language, Thomas Sheridan - 1780

The free access which many young people have to romances, novels, and plays has poisoned the mind and corrupted the morals of many a promising youth; and prevented others from improving their minds in useful knowledge. Parents take care to feed their children with wholesome diet; and yet how unconcerned about the provision for the mind, whether they are furnished with salutary food, or with trash, chaff, or poison? Memoirs of the Bloomsgrove Family, Reverend Enos Hitchcock - 1790

We remarked with pain that the indecent foreign dance called the Waltz was introduced (we believe for the first time) at the English court on Friday last … it is quite sufficient to cast one’s eyes on the voluptuous intertwining of the limbs and close compressor on the bodies in their dance, to see that it is indeed far removed from the modest reserve which has hitherto been considered distinctive of English females. So long as this obscene display was confined to prostitutes and adulteresses, we did not think it deserving of notice; but now that it is attempted to be forced on the respectable classes of society by the civil examples of their superiors, we feel it a duty to warn every parent against exposing his daughter to so fatal a contagion. The Times of London - Summer, 1816

…a fearful multitude of untutored savages… [boys] with dogs at their heels and other evidence of dissolute habits…[girls who] drive coal-carts, ride astride upon horses, drink, swear, fight, smoke, whistle, and care for nobody…the morals of children are tenfold worse than formerly. Anthony Ashley Cooper, the 7th Earl of Shaftesbury, Speech to the House of Commons - February 28, 1843

… see the simpering little beau of ten gallanting home the little coquette of eight, each so full of self-conceit and admiration of their own dear self, as to have but little to spare for any one else… and confess that the sight is both ridiculous and distressing… the sweet simplicity and artlessness of childhood, which renders a true child so interesting, are gone (like the bloom of the peach rudely nipped off) never to return. “Children And Children’s Parties”, published in The Mothers’ Journal and Family Visitant, S.B.S. - 1853

Household luxuries, school-room steam-press systems, and, above all, the mad spirit of the times, have not come to us without a loss more than proportionate…[a young man] rushes headlong, with an impetuosity which strikes fire from the sharp flints under his tread…Occasionally, one of this class…amasses an estate, but at the expense of his peace, and often of his health. The lunatic asylum or the premature grave too frequently winds up his career…We expect each succeeding generation will grow “beautifully less.” “Degeneracy of Stature”, The National Era, Thrace Talmon - December 18, 1856

A pernicious excitement to learn and play chess has spread all over the country, and numerous clubs for practicing this game have been formed in cities and villages…chess is a mere amusement of a very inferior character, which robs the mind of valuable time that might be devoted to nobler acquirements, while it affords no benefit whatever to the body. Chess has acquired a high reputation as being a means to discipline the mind, but persons engaged in sedentary occupations should never practice this cheerless game; they require out-door exercises–not this sort of mental gladiatorship. Scientific American - July, 1858