The mayor of Elyria has ordered a probe after the woman who lives at the home accused police of raiding the wrong house, an incident that she said left her baby with severe burns.

The mayor of Elyria, Ohio, has ordered an investigation after a woman alleged that police officers who raided her home had the wrong address and deployed flash-bang devices that sent her 1-year-old to the hospital with burns.

Police have offered a conflicting account of what happened Jan. 10, saying in a statement Friday that they had executed a search warrant at the correct address and the child did not “sustain any apparent, visible injuries.”

Courtney Price says audio from her Ring camera proves them wrong. In a clip shared exclusively with NBC News on Tuesday, someone can be heard saying “it’s the wrong house.” It is not clear who made the remark because the camera fell to the ground and went dark after police deployed the flash-bang devices.

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    Police have offered a conflicting account of what happened Jan. 10, saying in a statement Friday that they had executed a search warrant at the correct address and the child did not “sustain any apparent, visible injuries.”

    Never ever, ever, believe a police statement of any kind. Police reps are gangsters and liars.

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      Every public school should have a class where you get to read the police report about George Floyd’s death, and then you see the video.

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      Based on historic police statements, the fact it conflicts at all should let you know it’s full of lies. Usually they get their story straight AND still lie, the fact that they can’t even do that is damning imo.

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    Cops showing up at the wrong house and throwing a flash bang at a baby is entirely on brand and raises no new questions.

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    The search warrant was for the Parmely Avenue residence, but it was issued for a person who hasn’t lived there in more than a year, Price said, sharing the search warrant left by police at the home.

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    Price said she learned police had visited the home at least five times within the past year. “The landlord even told [police] she had new tenants,” she said.

    This is after the article mentions that they only waited six seconds between knocking on the door and busting in.

    If your police department shows this degree of incompetence executing a raid, it should have all its toys taken away. No more flashbangs, no more SWAT gear, no fancy guns. You get the wrong address, you hurt an innocent person, you fail to identify yourselves, you lose privileges. Hell, I seriously question whether they need most of that shit in the first place.

    I legitimately believe that a disturbingly high number of these raids that go wrong happen because the cops want to play with with their shiny new equipment.

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      that is not incompetence.

      that is malice.

      i’m tired of reading cop apologists tell me about incompetence.

      Fuck your incompetence. They are murderous thugs. They are quite competent at it.

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        ¿Porque no los dos?

        These aren’t mutually exclusive categories. For my part, I’m not prepared to attribute competent malice to everything the police do.

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      Six seconds?! Holy fuck, it takes me about a minute and a half just to get the dogs corralled. Thank god I keep yelling, “just a minute!” Hopefully if this ever happens to me, the cops will hear me yelling.

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        They will ignore you and kick your door down if it’s a raid, knock or otherwise. Excellent chance they shoot your dog too because apparently the cops just love murdering family pets.

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        From everything I’ve seen, they’ll hear it, take it as an excuse to claim you weren’t complying, bust down your door based on that and shoot your understandably agitated dogs.

        Good luck.

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      This isn’t better but they actual did knock, but then waited less than ten seconds before they used the ram, so they busted the door down as the resident was approaching the door.

      In fact I’d agrue it’s worse because they turned a (presumably) knock warrant into a defacto no knock by refusing to wait for a response. These cops clearly wanted to play storm trooper.

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        Yup. Probably in an area where they knew a judge wouldn’t sign off on a no-knock warrant. So they just knocked once, then rammed the door anyways.

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      Also I thought the SWAT stopped doing “breach and bang” systematically ? I guess their new doctrine isn’t much better if they still end up throwing grenades at babies, in the wrong house nonetheless

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      To be fair, what they thought he stole was weapons, and this headline insinuates that they knew it was the wrong house beforehand, while that doesn’t seem to be the case… Regardless, we shouldn’t be doing SWAT type raids on secondhand info, and I personally don’t think we should do them ever.

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        This is America. Someone having weapons isn’t an emergency; it’s just a typical day. Cops only treat it as an emergency when they want an excuse to cosplay as commandos.

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    Raises new questions? No you dumb insincere assholes in the American media, we’ve been asking the same damn question and have had solid answers to why and how to fix this kind of bullshit for over a decade now.

    oh and

    Police have offered a conflicting account of what happened Jan. 10, saying in a statement Friday that they had executed a search warrant at the correct address and that the child did not “sustain any apparent, visible injuries.”

    Otherwise known as cops lied once again and they’ll get a tax payer paid vacation while they investigate themselves and found they did nothing wrong.

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      Otherwise known as cops lied once again

      Despite all the other problems (and believe me, I’m very, very strident in my criticisms of policing in the US), if it didn’t always ALWAYS come down to this, I could possibly begin to understand the “well it’s a really hard job we’re doing our best” defense.

      No, cops. You fuck up, and you lie about it. You got away with it for decades to centuries before there were cameras you couldn’t control everywhere. Don’t tell me about your integrity or about how I just don’t understand the job. Talk to me about those things when lies aren’t the go-to for police when shit hits the fan every. single. time.

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        As a combat veteran it boils my blood that cops here aren’t held to ANY standard domestically while I’ve been in situations under fire where we had to wait for confirmation to fire back.

        Call me a commie but I think domestic beat cops shouldn’t be able to shoot at somebody easier than a soldier in a war zone can. 🤷

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      I figured out this game about 15 years ago when I read an article about a police car in NYC running over someone who had the walk sign in a crosswalk. Within an hour, there was a statement that the person was at fault because they did not exercise needed caution–this was well before any sort of investigation could occur. The police simply lie and the media reports it as stated.

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    IMO police rules of engagement should disallow use of any tactical equipment until they at least run into active opposition. There’s an innocent until proven guilty assumption built into the legal system, the police should also have a passive until proven violent assumption.

    The only reason a single mother and baby should ever be flash banged is if they are shooting at the police. With the technology today, they should be aware of who is going to be hit by a flash bang before it’s even thrown.

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      The only reason a single mother and baby should ever be flash banged is if they are shooting at the police. With the technology today, they should be aware of who is going to be hit by a flash bang before it’s even thrown.

      That, and there isn’t ever really a need to do raids in the first place.

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        there isn’t ever really a need to do raids in the first place

        Exactly! There might be a reason to be ready for a raid, for example if there’s a strong suspicion that someone’s heavily armed and might attack. But you don’t start acting offensively until you’re 200% sure that someone poses an immediate and serious threat.

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        Eh…raids are necessary sometimes. Just…not 99% of the time these fucks do them and, in the end, they should be done by people who are…you know…educated and competent.

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            I can’t tell if you’re being snide with that comment, but yes. That should absolutely be the first step.

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              and if they don’t…yeah. raids might be necessary. I really get all the anti cop shit here…because our cops are absolute shit and most of them need to be just be thrown away for life. But this website acts like society would just suddenly behave if the cops went away. No more crime, no need to ever pursue people. No need to ever raid anyone’s home because nobody in history has ever done anything bad enough that they need to be forced to leave their home to face prosecution.

              Again…I fucking get it. I hate our police in this shithole country but the answer is not no police ever no raids ever no arrests ever. The answer is massive fucking reform of our entire god damn system starting with EXTREMELY harsh punishment’s for everyone involved in shit like this article.

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                If someone barricades themselves in their home, why not just wait them out? Cut off power & water, couple days max.

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                  And if they have people in there they are threatening? Ah, well. They kill them its whatever right?

                  Again, I’m very sorry, but yes…some times society is going to need police. we just need to fix the system because our current usage of the police is completely fucked.

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      disallow use of any tactical equipment until they at least run into active opposition

      Sure, but baby steps. How about we start with “disallow lethal force until they at least see or hear a weapon.”

      /s but also true

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    So if it wasn’t the police action that caused the burns, what did? It’s an easy question to answer: it was the police action. The pre-existing conditions had nothing to do with them picking the wrong house and burning a kid.

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    “Raises new questions,” no the fuck they did not. It raised the same question it raises every time; why are these clowns allowed to do this bullshit with 0 accountability?

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    Is this the same baby that got flash banged a few years ago and the family is still trying to get justice for what happened? Or is this another baby that got flash banged? Either way, it’s fucking disgusting and outrageous!

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    “Price said she learned police had visited the home at least five times within the past year. “The landlord even told [police] she had new tenants,” she said.”

    They knew and they went for it anyway. Typical.

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    I want to see a new version of CSI in which they depict police doing shit like this that the unsuspecting public are dealing with and not the super heroes it tries to be written as.

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      It is a tremendous amount more difficult to make a police show without the cooperation of actual police. They only help if you portray them acceptably positive. Like B99 is about as critical as they can get I think.

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          You don’t even need to know Dick Wolf is a big shot Republican to realize how Law & Order is basically fascist copaganda.

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          Yeah, I love the show because it’s entertaining and Nathan Fillion is amazing, but it’s 100% blatant copaganda. They don’t even try to hide it.

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            That show is my guilty pleasure. At least I am not giving them my money, if you know what I mean 🏴‍☠️🦜

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      Maybe Law and Order?

      “Yeah so this perp got away while we raised the wrong house and we just lost a multi-million dollar lawsuit for flash-banging the neighbours baby. Also another perp just walked because we failed to follow due-process and violated his rights”

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      The Hayes Code probably still blocks this, even if it’s not enforced. Part of it was that producers of TV and movies could never portray the police in a negative light.

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            Fun fact - the Hays Code was set up to preempt real government censorship. If Hollywood hadn’t started censoring itself at the time it’s possible that the federal government would have. Some city and state governments were already doing it, and SCOTUS had ruled that movies were not art and that somehow made them not subject to the First Amendment.

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    Apparently we now live in a world where toddler abuse is more acceptable than basic reproductive health care…

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    American police put a child in the hospital, but refuse to acknowledge it had been hurt in any way, shape or form.

    Typical of those murderous thugs.