• NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    instead of directly in the middle of people who hate them the most.

    It’s not even that. Zionists caused the Middle East to hate Jews.

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        10 months ago

        Uh… We should be counting from 1917, and before that point anti-semitism in the Middle East wasn’t anything close to the point it is today.

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      10 months ago

      Blaming Jews for the antisemitism they experience is antisemitism 101, buddy.

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        No that’s not what I meant. I’m blaming Zionists for the anti-semitism all Jews experience in the middle east. Because that’s exactly what happened; most Middle Eastern countries (including Ottoman Palestine) had Jews who could live peacefully before Zionists started their settler colonialism project. I’m not saying it’s justified, don’t get me wrong; it’s stupid and horrible and I sincerely believe the pogroms that happened in the Middle East at the time were unjustifiable atrocities. But, that doesn’t mean we should ignore the cause.

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        Zionists does not equal Jews. There are plenty of Jews who aren’t Zionists and lots of Zionists who aren’t Jewish.

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      Yeah, nah. Their neighbors declared war on Israel the literal moment Israel was founded. They hadn’t even had time to piss anyone off.

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        Because the very creation of Israel was a settler colonialist state ethnically cleansing the local population.

        I would say their neighbours had plenty to be pissed off about.

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        Uh… Zionists had 28 years before the founding of Israel to get everyone to hate Jews all they want. Remember that the militias that formed the IDF were terrorist organizations before that, and the whole “let’s create an Apartheid state in Palestine” thing was inherently pretty objectionable.