• ABoxOfPhotons@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    For a while, i wondered why Americans tend use their credit cards instead of debit cards but then it occurred that they are encouraged to use credit cards because you cant get into debt using debit cards and debt is very profitable.

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      8 months ago

      There’s that, but there are also more legal consumer protections against fraud with credit cards than with debit cards.

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        8 months ago

        Also debit cards don’t earn cash back or points. I visit my cousins on airline points. Monitor your cards and make sure you don’t exceed your budget, same as a debit card.

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          They do if you use a credit union. I bank through two, and both offer cash back equivalent to any credit card, multiple overdrafts without fees, higher intrest rates on both checking and savings, access to better loan intrest rates, and I’m keeping my money in my community.

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        You also have to have credit to get loans. I ran into this issue when I bought a house. I hadn’t had a credit card in years because it was too easy to get into debt. The only thing that saved me is I am on one of my folks credit cards for rare emergencies if I’m watching their house and something goes awry (like the dehumidifier shits all over the basement floor and needs replaced).

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        I would totally use my debit card more if it has the same level of fraud protection that credit cards have.

        It’d be nice to be able to do a chargeback on a debit card transaction.

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        8 months ago

        I’m gonna wait and see if you can figure out how your statement relates to credit cards being more profitable for the ruling class than debit cards…

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      If you’re responsible with them you get a number of perks. Many cards have some mix of the following:

      • extended warranties on electronics
      • fraud protection (I had a credit card stolen and $17k charged to it, all forgiven)
      • pretty easy dispute system if someone fucks you (Iceland Air fucked me real bad on a canceled flight/voucher bs scam they were pulling on people during Covid. I filed a dispute and got all my money back)
      • % back on all kinds of purchase categories
      • free road side assistance
      • air miles
      • upgrades in flights
      • iirc some hotels and rental car companies require them
      • etc etc

      I’ve never paid interest on a single card in my life because I always pay my balance in full. Works out great for me. If you’re bad with money, I’d stay way.

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        8 months ago

        This!

        There are a lot of consumer protections on credit cards that do not apply to debit cards. I pay for basically everything with a credit card. I pay the card off every month.

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        I don’t think people realise that, you are actually paying for all those things, just in a roundabout way. Even people without credit cards are

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          Sure, but that’s just how it goes. Businesses take their transaction fees and roll that up into their overhead expenses and then factor out their retail pricing with that in mind.

          Knowing that, you can try to claw some of that back by utilizing card benefits or not. It’s basically the only thing you do have control of in this situation.

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            Eh, the more you claw back, the more they jack up their overheads.

            Never wonder why credit cards never became that popular in other countries, or why lots of places abroad have signs saying “American Express not accepted”?

            You’re getting robbed, and walking right into it.

            Debit cards have the same consumer protection as credit cards in Europe, the only “benefits” you’re getting are the ones you’ve paid for

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              Credit card transaction fee percentages have remained about the same for quite a while, so the overhead for businesses running cards has not really changed. And interest rates for carrying a balance change all the time, but I have never once in my life paid said interest because I pay my balance off every month. That’s the only responsible way to use credit cards.

              In any case, credit cards aren’t going anywhere for the time being. So if you’re in the US or some other country where they’re prevalent, you can participate or not. That’s your choice. But you’re paying for it anyway, as you yourself pointed out.

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      because you cant get into debt using debit cards

      Lol that’s cute. They’ve recently started changing this shit, but at least when I was in college, banks were 100% putting people into debt and making tons of money on overdraft fees. For using debit.

      They had a program called, “overdraft protection” that customer service loved to sign you up for if you accidentally overdrafted. That should fix things right?

      Lol no. Turns out what they meant by “protection” was “protection from your card being declined.” In other words, if a purchase was going to put your account into the negative, instead of simply declining the transaction and preventing the customer from incurring a fee, it makes sure the purchase goes through, and the customer is charged $35 for overdrafting.

      They also had a practice of re-ordering a customer’s transactions in order to maximize overdraft fees. I believe this one has been illegal since Obama though.

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      It’s also because a lot of people see the rewards as ways of getting free money. However that’s really only the case if you pay your card regularly. As well some Americans truly don’t have the required income to live. So they go into debt. It’s terrible, sad, and wrong on so many levels, but it’s a major part as well.

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      Frankly I use my credit card as my debit card. Hell I don’t even have a physical debit card. Why you ask? Rewards points.