• Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Netherlands doesn’t represent the whole europe. This isn’t the cycling/public transport utopia you think it is.

    • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      I’m well aware on account of living in non-Netherlands Europe.

      It’s a mixed bag for sure, but Europe as a whole does better on both the metrics I mentioned as compared to the U.S.

    • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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      1 year ago

      Yeah but most places in Europe don’t have 16 lane highways. And there’s quite a lot of old tracks that you can cycle along even if the main roads don’t have separated bike and traffic.

      In the US you have the, guaranteed to cause collisions, grid layout and that’s basically it. If the Americans could get a hold of the idea of not driving into each other they could also have roundabouts.

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        1 year ago

        "If the Americans could get a hold of the idea of not driving into each other they could also have roundabouts. "

        It’s less the idea of not driving into each other, and more the idea that nobody matters more than themselves, so everyone else should give way.

    • SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      Maybe biking is an exception, but for public transportation and walking, it is absolutely true that pretty much all of Europe is much better. It’s not even close.