Who else would try to convince others that Cheaters never succeed in profiting?

    • Whelks_chance@lemmy.world
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      I like this, but having skimmed it I didn’t find a description I connected with.

      For whatever reason, I feel the world isn’t “just”, but I personally will have a better life if I do good things. It’s rooted in selfishness rather than celestial balance.

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        The world isn’t just. The universe isn’t just. Both of those have no concept of just.

        Society is better when people try and act like good people. So I do that.

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        Sure you can alter circumstances to an extent and that’s probably the best way to live life. But all the good in the world doesn’t stop a freak car crash killing you or being struck by lightning. And while being struck by lightning is used synonymously with an act of god, I don’t think it actually means you deserved it. That’s the issue with the just-cause fallacy. It takes a huge spoonful of selection bias to only notice the people who did deserve it.

        In my opinion the idea of karma is a convenient crowd control mechanism to prevent people from taking action to fix their situation when they have faith that the universe will magically balance itself out.

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      7 months ago

      My favorite response to “why do bad things happen to good people?” is “what makes you think they were good?”

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    Treason doth never prosper, what’s the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it Treason.

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    It strikes me as pure Christian please-slap-the-other-cheek-then-too and you-should-be-grateful-they’re-even-playing-with-you-at-all-even-if-they’re-cheating propaganda to satisfy the worldview of the powerless and disenfranchised

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      I don’t think that PD (or any of its variants) is a good proxy for cheating, because cheating involves deception or rule breaking, while “defect” is just a legal move.

      A better proxy might be something like nuptial gifts in some spider species. So in some species, the male will present a female with whom he wishes to mate a nuptial gift - an insect wrapped in webbing. But the “cheat” move is when either the insect has already been sucked dry or when it’s snatched back too quickly for the female to feed.

      We can estimate the degree to which cheaters prosper by looking at how common these and similar behaviors are in their respective populations - let evolution do the calculations. Animal behavior is replete with deceptive and manipulative communication, and because so much of it is genetically determined we can be reasonably confident that we have an objective metric.

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      It depends on if they had to lie or not. Eventually you will have to lie in order to cover the original lie until you it can’t keep all of the lies straight. If you cheated your way through college, then you can probably get away with it unless you go into a skilled profession like a doctor. If you’re just getting an MBA or something, then it’s not a big deal since business/ office work is not skilled anyway.