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About 59% of Americans say TikTok a threat to the national security of the United States, according to a new survey of U.S. adults.
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Yeah I mean, I downloaded my reddit data and uh… wow. I was surprised to see how much you could learn about someone when it’s all bundled up like that 👀
Aggregated data is always scary.
Aggregated data is the reason for modern living in its entirety so no.
You’re literally on a data aggregation site now.
How did you do this? Log in through the website? I will have to do password recovery as I haven’t used the web interface in ages.
Would be very curious what that data set looks like.
Yeah, has to be through a web browser. Here’s a link: https://www.reddit.com/settings/data-request
FWIW, I never got notified that the download was ready, so make sure you check back for reddit mail every few days if you request yours. It took about a month for mine.
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I mean that’s all fair but the title says that it’s a matter of national security because it’s a Chinese owned company. Facebook is absolutely aggregious and could possibly also be considered a matter a national security (probably should be imo), but because it’s an American company it’s not immediately seen as a threat.
You’re right. I see ALL data collection like this as a threat. Fb, IG, TT, Twitter, Google, Apple the works.
Pointing out Chinese company’s shady behavior isn’t bullshit or racism. I work in security and we’re currently having to take out most Chinese cameras since they’ve been found to regularly ping Chinese addresses and have backdoors built in. Chinese companies quickly become an extension of the CCP.
Saying it’s only them is absolutely racist. Most social media corporations sell data. Including to the Chinese government. Go look at the “permissions” threads, Instagram, and the FB app require these days and tell me they aren’t ripping every bit of data they can.
There’s a big difference between hardening your security hardware supply line and accusing only the Chinese social media platform of taking data.
Facebook has been actually selling data to the Chinese government for a decade. Congress just keeps politely asking them to stop. But nobody wants to report on that.
Eighty one percent of Americans think God will save them, so why would you care about any of their other opinions?
I think 81% agree to say they aren’t non believers because many don’t want the questions of saying they might be an atheist/agnostic. ~30k different Christian sects in the U.S. and none of them can tell me why they are in their own group, so if you just say oh yeah I believe everyone shuts up. Being raised a catholic, I like to remind my mother that all 30k of them are anti catholic and they believe catholics are going to hell. They don’t know what for, but they damn sure know they aren’t catholic.
In truth I think ~30% of Americans are religious. The rest just keep covering for themselves. If we really wanted the truth we could instate taxes like they have in some EU countries. Pay an extra 5% taxes to your church. *poof, 50% gone in a year and claiming they paid it, while the others wondering why they didn’t think to check a mon religious box.
I live in a location where a Christian belief system is straight up expected at a near Texas level. It is to my absolute glee to answer people that I am unwilling to pray over your computer (💯 happened) as it is against my religion.
Have people ask what church I go to roughly biweekly.
Main reason I have satanic temple cards to distribute when asked.
If we legalize taxing churches it just means no non-christian religions are allowed in red states. They’ll just jack up taxes on churches they don’t agree with
Freedom to religion would likely protect taxes being diffferent. It shouldn’t protect against the largest land owner in Florida being a tax free money maker
That’s a very charitable view of the current SCOTUS and I admire your optimism
Fun fact about SCOTUS. They don’t have any way of enforcing their rulings. And we can add judges all day long. That’s why they keep not going full conservative except on key cases. They know if the Democrats see them as a totally lost cause then they’ll pack the court. (Which could effectively kill it when the GOP gets power and does the same exact thing) So in preserving their own power they’re forced to maintain a status quo for now.
Not sure they think God will save them. That’s quite the leap from “God exists” to “God will save me”.
Good. It pretty clearly is. It’s not the only one by any stretch, but “a threat” is a low bar. Would a single one of you stand confidently by it being “no threat”?
Hell, facebook is a threat to national security, and it’s an American company.
Yes but so are Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn
I’m not here to defend tiktok but I really don’t care what the average person thinks is a national security threat.
I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that same 59% completed the poll on TikTok
Seeing how many people rushed to use threads and people are just excited that X is there too wouldn’t surprise me. I don’t understand why the average person is fear mongering tiktok when the official social media apps choose to use have so many sketchy permissions. Reddit too now set to try to become the next Meta with their IPO.
I can understand privacy focused people who try to avoid them due not liking them for the same reasons they don’t like meta, but the average person singling out tiktok as they use Facebook, Instagram, and threads is not one that makes sense to me.
Kinda proud I’ve never installed/used Tiktok ¯_(ツ)_/¯.
If you’re not involved in anything sensitive then the CCP could give two shits about you. Also if you’ve ever used any META product they already have your info. Zuckerberg has been called out for selling data to the Chinese government multiple times over the last decade.
Yeah, I’m not involved in anything like that, but coming from a country heavily manipulated by the CCP, I simply choose not to install TikTok or anything directly related to them (on my own choice). I once tried to apply for a Hong Kong visa at a Chinese embassy in the US. Ever since then, I’ve been receiving hundreds of Chinese calls and random Chinese messages out of nowhere. It’s been 3 years -__-, I still can’t figure out ways to get my number off of their lists, freaking ridiculous.
So people are complaining if the CCP censors western social media like Facebook etc. but then discuss to censor chinese social media. Isn’t there freedom of speech in America? I mean nobody is forced to use TikTok.
This is why I can’t wrap my head around any of the tiktok hate. I don’t trust tiktok with my data so guess what? I don’t use it. I don’t see how my coworker using it is going to be the downfall of America. We’ve already banned it from government networks, that’s plenty.
And to be honest there shouldn’t be any social media on government networks. Unless it’s “Civil Service R US” or something run by the government. But yeah no reason to have social media on 99% of official devices. (The 1% are the PR people putting stuff out and IT can wall them off)
If someone else wants to censor America social media it is extremely wrong, bad and against freedom of speech.
If America wants to censor someone else’s social media it is the correct and good thing to do, because it protects people.
Had tiktok been American it would have been wrong to try to censor it, but no it is not so then it is good to censor it.
Well of course they’re going to percieve a place where alternative ideas and organisation takes place as a threat
Nothing there is all that alternative.
I’m not american. My country had basically built out a strangle hold on traditional media, facebook and is building it on other sites like instagram and twitter. The only platform that not been affected at all is tiktok. Instagram and Twitter is tankfully heavily fighting back the government propaganda but on tiktok, there is just none. Not sure if it’s because of the algorithm it uses or simply they don’t consider it a threat but there is a ton of liberal counter-culture which I’m sure the government would not be happy about if they found them.
As an avid user of both TT and Reddit (now lemmy obv), I can say the content and perspectives between the two have some parallels (both lean left) but also some very stark differences (TT leans younger and has a more early internet style chaotic energy).
I’m not saying the security concerns aren’t warranted. But the idea that so many people on here are so onboard with sacrificing a platform because they don’t get it is kinda disheartening. Especially given how concentrated social media is getting under the Meta umbrella.
I feel like many people on here still view the platform as the app where people dance to music, which isn’t representative of what the app is at the moment.
This can vary greatly. As a Canadian, I get served a bunch of conservative content on a fresh TikTok account.
I get a lot of content about socialism, communism, guerilla gardening, permaculture. Not very mainstream imo
The algorithm is very good at sending you more of what you’ve liked or searched for. If you’re not mainstream then neither will your content be.
I don’t even have it and I clicked a link my friend sent and my vpn blocked 6 trackers. Can’t imagine what the app has access to
The US exports social media platforms all over the world.
Beyond that, many mostly older folks don’t understand TikTok, even more than most social media, and because they don’t understand the culture of it, they have decreed it a bad influence out of ignorant fear.
Yes, I’m sure China does mine the data, as do we. If my government wanted its citizens to “rah rah murica” in the global powers dick measuring contest, it shouldn’t have legislated civic buy in away for the last 50 years to make the owner class richer at everyone else’s expense.
Patriotism is for societies.
Majority of Americans don’t understand national security, cyber security, or privacy.
TikTok is a threat to my productivity if anything. That app will ruin me if I download it again.
For once a majority agree and are correct.
So are the rest of the “social media” companies too though.
