Reposting bc I dun goofed before
A proposed better calendar that would have made as much sense as converting to the metric system
EDIT: turns out that the idea is not so new … it was called the “International Fixed Calendar” and it was first proposed in 1902
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar
In my country, the week starts on monday
I think weeks start on monday everywhere except for one country…
Yeah, the country that makes all the fking calendar apps that make me go to settings and change the first week day. Every time. God fking why.
Uhh no. India too has Sundays as the first days of the week.
it has always absolutely baffled me that anyone would say the week starts on sunday, sunday is the weekend???
I prefer this America
I prefer this Amerika
I think it’s a US thing to start on Sunday 1
As an American, I always thought that was another country’s thing. Because we certainly don’t start our weeks on Sunday in practice.
God damn right.
Ahhhh forget it then … junk the proposed calendar system
Unless … we start the week on a Tuesday
Your country is wrong. 😉
This is how I also choose to live
What’s stopping us from just switching to this calendar right now? How do I convert my birthday to this calendar? I’ll switch this very second
Trillions of dollars
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I like the suspense of the current calendar. This one is too square.
I prefer the way the Hobbits do it: 12 months of 30 days, then 5 (or 6) days straight of winter holiday/new year festivities. But I would totally get behind this calendar in a heartbeat, too.
Love this idea. What should the 13th month be named?
The correct month name like all the rest should be.
https://www.omniglot.com/language/numbers/latin.htm
Really though? Uncember just to really stab the heart of every latin linguist out there.
I’m a fan of Nihilary myself. Creating a month from nothing.
1th month, 2th month, 3th month, 4th month, 5th month, 6th month, 7th month, 8th month, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th months.
I thought it would be more like … UNDECEMEBER … for the Latin Undecim
Anyways … I propose
- Hangovery
- Canada
- Colduary
- Holy
- Enducation
- Summer
- America
- France
- Startucation
- Germany
- Veterans
- Xmas
- Unlucky
Yeah Undecemeber would confuse too many people though. Hence me shortening to Uncember. Undecim sounds cool though and would still piss people off lol.
Also you have to include multiple languages!
- Cold.
- Not so cold now.
- Damnit hurry up.
- Unlucky
- Why is it summer already?
- Summer
- Still summer
- Stillest summer
- Also unlucky
- Nice for one week
- The snow is coming…
- I swear it’s coming…
- Unluckiest also maaaaybe snow.
For someone like me … I’m Indigenous Canadian … that is one hell of a username … lol
Anishinaabe myself cuz.
I’m Ojibway / Cree from northern Ontario … tan-teh kee-nah? (Where are you from?)
I’m in that weird mix of languages where some people use Anishinabe and some use Nishnawbe but everyone just says Nish … lol
Could we please rename the rest as well? Having september, october, november, december as 9, 10, 11 and 12 makes no sense at all.
The naming controversy would probably set off WWIII
The only non insane person
This is the most succinct way I’ve heard metric time explained. Very easy to understand the conversion and the reasons to use it.
UTC while abolishing time zones is the superior format anyway.
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Largest to smallest. The only other logical way is smallest to largest. But that gets annoying when filing systems are involved.
Except that there are actually 1.44 standard minutes in a metric minute
24*60/10/100=1.44
It doesn’t explicitly say it, but that redefines the second to be 1/100,000th of a day.
Doing that would break everything.
That said, I wish speed limits were in m/s. It makes more sense to me.
Miles or kilometers per hour makes sense in the context of travel, you can very easily estimate how long it’s going to take to get somewhere.
Ironically, km/h is better for estimation because hours are 3600 seconds. If an hour were 1000 seconds or whatever, it would barely take more effort to calculate with m/s
I was thinking about estimating stopping distances and reaction times. The number of metres you cover every second becomes important then.
yeah, there was a point in time when we could have. Just now our standards are to ingrained
Not even 4am! I’m going back to bed.
Just leaving this here in case anyone is interested. A dozenal clock! Day (24h) divided to twelve parts divided to twelve parts, etc. https://clock.dozenal.ca/
And deci. What’s wrong base 10? Why aren’t you touching your decilitres.
It strikes me that decagrams would be good for measuring flour
That´s because it in fact is. In Austria dekagramm is a common unit, abbreviated dkg or dag. In shops it´s standard to buy and label cheese and sliced cold meats in dag and in Austrian recipe books stuff like flour, cornstarch, sugar, butter and fat are measured in dkg.
Deciliter is a common unit in cooking though…
Decilitres is commonly used worldwide…
I know that some countries do! I’m pretty sure they use dL in Norway in baking.
That’s the beauty, you can use this unit, and most people will immediately understand.
Stop using litres, they are a fake metric!. A litre is a mili cubic meter anyway.
Why would metric time still use the same seconds? Surely it’d be a different unit that was a nice multiple of 10
Thr second is already a metric SI unit. A day happens to be 86.4 kiloseconds. I’m not sure why that is weird.
Redefining the second would be a lot of work for no real benefit.
Hours, days, weeks are not metric, you wouldn’t really say kiloday or centiday.
60 is good because you can divide it by 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, 30 which is convenient
Compared to 100 which can only be divided by 1, 2, 4, 5, 10, 20, 25, 50. Not too bad, but not as good.
With circles being 360 degrees, the base12 is cooler
Exactly RuneScape ticks are where it’s at, there are 100 ticks in a minute
(Slaps clock) This baby can fit so many prayer flashes! 😎
deconds
😋 cute hahaha
I’m sure the artist intended to be smart and use metric time as something silly.
The problem is he used regular time.
60 * 60 * 24=86400=>86.4 kseconds where k stands for 1000. Like kilo for 1000 grams. Kilometer for 1000 meters etc.
The comic doesn’t make sense…
I cannot see what’s wrong saying a day consists of 86.4 ks. It’s a fact and it’s mathematically correct.
If we’re redifining time, why do we have to keep the same unit size? Simply adjust the duration of a second to make exactly 100 ksecs per day.
It’s ingrained and arbitrary. The only thing we’ve found so far for measuring time that doesn’t appear to be arbitrary is Planck time, which is so small it has no use in daily life. So if you have to use an arbitrary unit anyway, why make a new arbitrary unit? And while the second, minute, hour, and to a lesser degree month are arbitrary, days and years are not, they are just based on the unique circumstances of when we started observing our world in a scientific manner.
So if you have to use an arbitrary unit anyway, why make a new arbitrary unit?
Because whole point of metric is to use powers of ten.
The SI unit for time is the second. It just happens to be the same length as the imperial second. Minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, and years are not SI units.
12, 24, and 60 are highly composite numbers and easily divisible by more numbers than 10. Also, if you are doing that, go ahead and redefine degrees in a circle and all that jazz too. Go ahead.
In the days of doing math by hand, that might have mattered.
Let me introduce you to this little thing called a calculator.
There has been a “metric” measurement of angles for a long time. The radian. It’s pi based instead of 10 based, but it makes way more sense than degrees.
No, it really doesn’t
Plank time is arbitrary too. Plank time is the time it takes light to move 1 Plank length. It’s no different than any other time measurement other than it’s the shortest measurable unit of time.
How is the shortest measurable amount of time it’s possible to measure with the physics of our universe arbitrary?
It’s arbitrary in the same way measuring the time between photon absorption/emission in a cesium atom is arbitrary or the rotation of our planet is arbitrary.
Picking the smallest is arbitrary just like picking a larger interval.
In the cesium clock case, you count 9192631770 because it’s close to 1 second we already are familiar with and arbitrarily say 9192631770 transitions is defined as 1 second.
For example Planck time is defined as 5.391247(60)×10−44 seconds. But what is that second? It’s the arbitrary 9192631770 cesium transitions we picked because it’s close to the second that come from Earth’s spin.
Planck time doesn’t appear to be arbitrary, but a feature of our universe, hence the shortest measurable unit of time. It’s length in seconds is arbitrary because seconds are arbitrary. And seconds are arbitrary because the only non-arbitrary unit of time we have found so far is too unwieldy to use for anything but scientific purposes, and it’s very unwieldy for many of those.
How is a unit that varies in time less arbitrary than units that at least have a fixed length?
Because the day and year have meanings. They are “the time it gets for the earth to make a full rotation” and “the time to come full circle around the sun”. They are of varying length, so we actually use time periods that are almost the real day and year, and call them day and year. These are fixed length.
The second is arbitrary, because we just arbitrarily decided to split up the day in 24 hours, hours into 60 minutes and minutes into 60 seconds. Why 24/60/60? Kinda arbitrary.
Now, does arbitrary mean it’s bad? I don’t see why. The meter is defined in a similar manner, but using multiples of 10 instead of 24/60/60.
I know the meter and second have been redefined to be based on scientific phenomena and be independent from the earth, but their length has the same arbitrary origin. And as such, they are arbitrary.
I don’t see what being arbitrary has to do with being a good or bad unit of measurement.
It was created by the Babylonians, who had a base 12 numbering system. It’s no more arbitrary than base 10, and in fact superior in some ways. 12 can be evenly divided by 2, 3, 4, or 6. 10 can only be evenly divided by 2 and 5.
I was referring to months which are arbitrary “to a lesser degree” but maybe I misunderstood the comment above mine
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as a promoter of the kilofoot I about agree and am offended by this comic.
We have 24 hours in a day because the people that came up with the sundial lived around the equator (always half a day off light) and counted in base 12. 12 light hours and 12 dark is our 24 hours. You can count base 12 by using your thumb to count the bones in your finger. 4 fingers with 3 bones each gives you 12.
It’s also why we have 60 minutes. They counted with their fingers on one hand to 5, with the other to twelve so you get 60. Why not 144? You make mistakes easily when counting to 12 with both hands.
By now there have been many attempts to launch a different system for time keeping and calenders but it never took hold.
Also with 5*12 = 60, that divides 360 neatly so it made the math simpler for ancient astronomers
You can count base 12 by using your thumb to count the bones in your finger.
You can count to 1F on one hand without getting knuckles involved and 3FF on both, also without knuckles.
You cannot really make all the time units a multiple of 10 to each other as a day, months and a year, for example, are defined by external factors.
You could perhaps change seconds so a day would be exactly 100k seconds, which would make seconds slightly shorter than they now are but that wouldn’t really change the fact that a year is 365.25 days and that a month is either 27.32 or 29.53 days depending on how you measure it.
Let’s first establish decimal time, then we can talk adding thrusters to Earth to adjust its rotation…
I’d watch this skifi
A day is the spin of the Earth and a Year is the orbit of the Earth, but months are completely arbitrary because we (Western world) don’t use Lunar cycles for months.
There’s no reason we couldn’t have 10 months.
You could argue that years are also arbitrary.
Yes, we follow orbital year and adjust our time to follow it, but the orbital year has meaning in anything except scientific world.
Years are also arbitrary.
Except a second is also already defined by external factors so making it shorter actually messes up ALL other SI units/compound auxiliary units…
Nice
The MS has a solution for that. Days, years, weeks… are not part of the system. They are understood and the conversions accepted, but that’s it.
