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    It’s [stainless steel] also stiff, which makes it potentially more lethal to anybody unlucky enough to be struck by a vehicle built with the stuff.

    Of course they picked a more deadly option.

    The documentation says: “To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.). Do not wait until Cybertruck is due for a complete wash. If necessary use denatured alcohol to remove tar spots and stubborn grease stains, then immediately wash the area with water and a mild, non-detergent soap to remove the alcohol.”

    Loooool. That’s pathetic. A truck you have to baby or it stains and discolors.

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      Not just more stiff, the sharp angles on the body are also much more likely to cause serious injury to pedestrians and cyclists (there’s a reason modern vehicles have rounded edges). Unfortunately the lack of regulations in North America on safety features vis a vis anyone but the vehicle occupants means these death machines remain street legal.

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        there’s a reason modern vehicles have rounded edges

        Rounded edges and soft panels that crumple easily yes.

        I’m glad these things aren’t permitted here in Europe.

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      the whole point of a truck is to get shit done.

      this truck destroys itself if you try to get shit done with it.

      how they fucked up so badly, i have no idea.

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        No the whole point of a truck in America is for men who have self confidence issues to feel better about themselves. You think people are hauling shit on the reg in a cyber truck or those other lifted shiny shits people drive around?

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          It’s a typical status symbol, nothing else.

          Usually defended with excuses like “I have kids so I must protect them with a 2 tonne tank”

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            “If I get to an accident I want to make sure I live!”

            But what happened when you hit a vehicle the same size or a semi?

            Never thought of that, time to get me a semi! - some American most likely

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        Refined oil yes. But crude oil can be because it has impurities. Honestly in unsure about that sentence. They might have conflated all of the substances and effects together to save space. I imagine oils cooked definitely stain unprotected metal though.

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          Crude oil isn’t really something you’d find outside the shipping or refining industry though.

          I think they’re just covering their assess with the oil thing.

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      Of course they picked a more deadly option.

      Elon specifically said that if a CT gets into an accident with another vehicle, the CT “wins”. Which is such a fucking horrifying way to think about automotive safety. Same thing from people who bitch about how “your car gets totaled in even the lowest speed crash nowadays” when doing so is precisely what saves your life. Totalling a car and allowing you to walk away with only minor injuries or none at all, it is the point, but people like him have this idea that it’s more manly to die in easily avoidable ways than it is to observe safety measures that we’ve known about for decades.

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        Exactly. Cars that didn’t deform from damage were death traps. I think there was a Mass Men episode with this in it too.

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      Loooool. That’s pathetic. A truck you have to baby or it stains and discolors.

      Every car has a similar disclaimer.

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        Maybe. I read my manual cover to cover and nowhere did it say you had to immediately wash off bird shit. And I haven’t and it hasn’t stained or rusted. This car is pathetic.

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          Bird shit will damage the paint of any car. Your ignorance doesn’t make this a bad vehicle. A simple web search will clear this up for you.

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            There was a time when yes it did. Back when the manufacturers switched to more environmentally safe paints in the late 90s/early 00s.

            But they got their ducks in a row quickly, these days it’s fine. Similar to the many solder ball cracking issues caused by lead free solder when it first appeared.

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      The next one should be matte black teflon as an exterior. Or some other non-stick surface.

      Stainless steel is good for kitchens I guess. It always takes a special spray to get clean. Unless you want to scrub at it all day.

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        Teflon aka PFAS that we now know we really don’t want crumbling off into the environment. Please no

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    Haven’t read the article, but I am going to say it’s a bad alloy combined with salt in the air, salt on the roads combined with galvanic corrosion. I’ll edit my post after I read this…

    Edit: It’s the deadly chromium layer not being wrapped in a $5000 clear coat.

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      not being wrapped in a $5000 clear coat.

      This is such bullshit though. Deloreans were built with uncoated 304 stainless steel (think, same as in food grade stainless stuff), and with all their other issues, rust is not one of them.

      If Teslas rust, they chose the wrong steel, the end.

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        Except the DeLorean. Which doesn’t rust at all.

        Tesla’s idea wasn’t even bad, they just cheaped out enough to ruin it.

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          To clarify, it was still a very bad idea because of added mass, it just wasn’t necessarily a bad idea for rust since they could have mitigated risk of rust in one of several ways.

          The added mass is really bad for battery performance/range, pedestrian safety, safety of other motorists, and total greenhouse gas emissions in production (and added fuel costs for the marginal power increase, of course).

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        Lulz. I was updating my post when you responded.

        People don’t understand that stainless steel just “stains” slower than pure iron or regular steel.

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          And differently depending on which stainless grade alloy. (308, 316 ,15-5 ,18-10 etc)

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        I can understand other more specific problems, but something like this for a car manufacturer…

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        That was musks selling point for production, he said by skipping the paint booth they saved X amount of time, materials and money by going with plain untreated stainless

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    Congrats to Tesla for making the worst truck imaginable. Shit’s hilarious, too bad it’s not a joke.

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      How much is a wind-proof windshield? And do they also offer air-proof tires?

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    I don’t have a lot of sympathy for any of the idiots that buy these idiotic things.

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      All “stainless” means is that the alloy contains at least 10.5% chromium. It’s not a guarantee that it won’t corrode or oxidize.

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    Ooo, I know this one! Is it because of Elon’s massive ego and refusal to listen to experts?

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      If anyone needs one reason to avoid the stupidtruck, it’s the sheer ugliness of that abomination. I don’t understand how people can worship such a petulant egomaniac enough to adore such a travesty from him.

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    What I haven’t seen mentioned is that the structure of the vehicle depends on the integrity of the exterior, if Tesla’s own marketing was true. So, if it rusts easily, isn’t it more likely to be structurally unstable during impact?

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    Stainless steel also stains. “Stainless” does not mean “never stains,” just that it stains less than other steels.

    Endless Spotless Stainless Steel is a steel that stains, has fewer spots, and ends a bit later. The logic of English is all but senseless. Which means it has everything except a bit less sense.

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      I found out way too late that “all but” means exactly the same thing as “almost”. If “all but X” is taken literally, it should mean “you can describe this thing in lots of ways, but it’s definitely not X”.

      (I am not a native English speaker but I use English more then my native tongue due to being online so much)

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    Look, we all know the only thing stainless steel is good for is the temporal flux dispersion. In all other ways it’s a PITA.