• state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
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    What do you mean by that? Social distancing is mostly what keeps these diseases at bay. But there’s an argument that social distancing comes with a hefty cost as we are a social species.

    Edit: Wow, the circlejerk for certain topics is just as strong on Lemmy as it was on Reddit. I’m sticking with my point, though. Social distancing has heavy costs and is at this point not worth it. Of course people should wear masks if they are sick or if they want to protect themselves. And staying away from people when you’re sick and can do it has always been a good idea.

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      Wearing a mask and staying away from people when sick is a much better approach. Also being aware of what being sick even is since some people just kinda ignore their symptoms as “a cold”.

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      This genius thinks he figured out what a consensus of medical and science professionals did not factor.

      You know what else has a hefty social cost? Having parents and grandparents die in the family because of lazy scientific illiterate dumbfucks and grifters.

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        No, I did not. That’s why the CDC and other health agencies around the world are no longer recommending social distancing as a general rule. That’s my whole point, when people come along and argue what we could accomplish by continuing the harsh rules from COVID times.

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          Help me follow your logic when you immediately bring up “social distancing,” from the following message you replied to:

          Just imagine how many infectious diseases could be greatly diminished or eliminated if people, I dunno, listened to healthcare professionals.

          …? Because this feels like a straw-man. The user you replied to said nothing about social distancing. Seemed to be a more generalized comment to me.

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            I jumped there because masks are fine, but the only thing that really keeps infectious diseases at bay is social distancing. Everything else like vaccines, masks and proper hygiene only limits the risks to some degree. Keeping away from other humans is the only thing guaranteed to work. That’s why I assume people mean this when they talk about measures to fight diseases.

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              You’re from a German instance if I understand Lemmy right (and odds are good I don’t), and if that’s the case perhaps you’re not aware that the message above was probably for an American audience because we had a lot of really, really ignorant conservatives under the Republican party banner who completely ignored the science and medical advice of experts, continued to socialize, continued to be anti-vaxx, anti-mask, and spread dangerous unfounded conspiracy theories to the detriment of millions. I’m sure Germany and other nations had a similar issue albeit to a lesser extend from what I understand.

              As the original user said, if more people just heeded the vast consensus of experts in this field on this issue, we’d all be much better off. Instead, they’d rather listen to some right-wing media pundit tell them there is some grand conspiracy because it makes them feel better about themselves or something…

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        I missed eating in restaurants, but I didn’t get to WFH or anything during the lockdowns so I would have appreciated more isolation.

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      What do you mean by that?

      I mean that there are far too many people who insist on abusing the world we live in to our own detriment, that acute public health is one of the things that suffers, and that it doesn’t have to.

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      You’re getting downvoted, not entirely because people disagree with the point you are making, but becauase you are making a counterargument against something nobody said.

      The topic is about staying home when you are sick. You’ve even agreed with that part. But for some reason you decided to come out swinging against social distancing even though nobody recommeded it or even brought it up in this context.

      Given your need to strawman the original point with a stance generally championed by reactionaries, people are accurately determining that you are a reactionary and delivering a well-deserved downvote.

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        If you determine that then it is not accurate. The way I understood the comment I responded to they could only mean social distancing, I’ve explained that too. That’s not a strawman, that’s my (mis)understanding. And there are some topics on Lemmy where it really depends on chance what will get downvoted, depending on which crowd piles onto the thread. One such topic is nuclear power and the other big one is COVID policies. Not every argument you disagree with is in bad faith. Mine definitely wasn’t. Social distancing is a sore topic for me and people bring it up on Lemmy all the time as if it a viable solution and that pisses me off. So I might jump to conclusions occasionally. But like I said, the whole topic is not one you can have a serious discussion about on Lemmy because it’s apparently a sore topic for too many.

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      What do you mean by that? Social distancing is mostly what keeps these diseases at bay. But there’s an argument that social distancing comes with a hefty cost as we are a social species.

      There’s a more rational problem than seeing people at your will. It’s seeing people as you must. I had minor panic attacks with struggles to breath over commuting to work in overfilled busses, working around many people, because I didn’t have a pleasure to work from home at all although I could, easily, without a problem. I’m fine with living in a solitary confinement with the internet connected anonymously - I’m this weird, yeah - but my boss said no. And I was potentially infected and spread this shit to other people who probably got ill or died. I’m very adjusted to social distancing, but I and many had no chance for that.