So I made a comment on worldnews criticizing Chinese activity in the south china sea and apparently got banned for it by the automod. This happen to anyone else? Is this Lemmy’s version of the need help post and the shape of things to come?

The instance I posted in was Lemmy.ml

  • cloudless@lemmy.world
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    Block these instances: lemmy.ml lemmygrad.ml hexbear.net

    There is no point arguing with tankies. They are dumb and they won’t change. I just hope there will be a way to completely block those users including their comments. They are polluting the fediverse.

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      I just hope there will be a way to completely block […] users including their comments.

      Remember who the developers are.

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        I got a permanent ban on lemmygrad within days of making an account, see supporting Ukraine defend itself is obviously NATO apologia. I think the problem wasn’t even my stance but that were actually convincing, they’re not blocking you for saying “fuck tankies” or making bad arguments, they keep that stuff up to make, by extension, any criticism of their party line look stupid.

        Only got temporary bans on lemmy.ml, for things such as pointing out that OP’s article itself said that Ukraine didn’t lay claim to the territories in Russia it officially recognises as “historically linguistically Ukrainian” in response to others in the thread doing the usual “Zelensky is a Nazi oppression Russian speakers” thing (never mind Zelensky being a native Russian speaker and Jew).

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        I got banned from some of these as well! First time I’ve ever been banned from anything lol. Guess it’s a badge of honor on lemmy

    • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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      Yep.

      Fastest way to get banned there is to give valid criticism of China or Russia.

      One of the Tankiest of tankie instances

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          Because no likey da Americans

          These morons think Iran is a bastion of anti-colonial resistance

          Iran

          The theocracy

          The successor state to one of the longest running imperial projects in human history

          The state currently organizing proxies to destabilize it’s neighbors with the intention of letting a puppet state take all of it for integration within it’s sphere of influence

          That Iran.

          Tankies have no values and even fewer brain cells.

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              A few are Canadians who think letting the prairie provinces have nice things will lead to the second war of 1812, but yeah, they’re almost always bougie US kids. Why I always call them Bougyeviks.

              All the ideology, none of the actual connection to the people who need the most help

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          Tankies love fascist dictatorships. That’s their whole shtick.

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            Yep, this.

            They are convinced they are gonna be part of the ruling class, So they fucking love fascist authoritarian dictatorship.

            The overwhelming irony is that they would most likely be the ones purged, not the ones ruling.

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          Sow disinformation about the west, erode tust.

          Now, bear in mind I’m acutely aware of the strengths of china, and the failings of the us, but when the 300lb gorilla is in your backyard eyeing your kids, you get involved with the gorilla, and keep and eye on what is happening in office politics and in the neighbours yard.

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          Because there are reactionaries. It’s like PETA or angry vegans who are in it for the moral superiority rather than making the world a better place.

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          Inability to hold nominally conflicting ideas. You can be a socialist and be against the actions of countries that claim to be socialist. Likewise you can be capitalist and be against the actions of countries that claim to be capitalist.

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        Isn’t that the developer instance? Are the developers tanki communists? (I don’t believe a real communist would want to support china OR russia since they aren’t actually communists)

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    Lemmy.ml is a tankie instance that loves China and hates western countries. Unfortunately, it’s also one of the biggest Lemmy instances because it’s run by the main devs of Lemmy (who created Lemmy because they were frequently banned on other sites for bootlicking for China). Thankfully, Lemmy is open source and the nature of how it runs allows everyone to ignore the weird ideologies of the devs.

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            alien.top is an instance that scrapes Reddit and mirrors posts and comments, creating bot accounts with the same username as the original poster. The intent was to make it easy for users to migrate away from Reddit (just claim the bot account with your username), but everyone pointed out the obvious ethical problems of mass plagiarizing and how nobody on Reddit can see any replies you make. It was also super spammy and 99℅ of the comments are from those scraper bots, so most instances defederated from them.

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        lemmygrad is a full-on cult, lemmy.ml is its public front and embassy, and hexbear, well, there’s plenty of idiots on hexbear, the problem with hexbearians isn’t that they’re Stalinists but that they think signal politics does anything, hence also their propensity to pile. At least in the past I think they’ve given up on doing it outside hexbear.

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        Two of them are practically dead.

        Hexbear is just the exodus of ChapoTrapHouse and a few affiliated sites from when Reddit kicked its ban policy into high gear. The Akira Toriyama Megathread and Online Movie Night top-posts seem about as sincere and good natured as anything on any other social media site.

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    For those of you asking/ curious, the reason given was ‘yellow peril’. Really? I guess my being asian and directly affected by the Chinese activities in the scs makes me somehow a threat to yellow people?

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      Same. I literally have family in China and therefore a real stake in Chinese society. Meanwhile a bunch of western tankies who have never been to China and don’t speak the language hand down bans merely for me relaying conversations I’ve actually had with real Chinese people in their native language about Chinese history and politics.

      It’s simple racism to infantilise all Chinese people like this, believing they need a bunch of white saviors on the Internet to speak for them and guard their cultural chastity.

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        Simply mentioning china or any ethnicity at all is seen as racism to them because grounding reality in anything other than communist propaganda is seen as a threat.

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          Holy shit theyve drunk the cool aid. There’s articles about mainland students just exploding in college classes when bringing up Chinese topics. Or the video about the piano player being intimidated and wrongly accused of impropriety for making a video. The problem is when the authorities side with these bullies, or play it down.

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        Did you know that if you support Ukraine, the tankies say that makes you racist against Asians? No joke , that’s what I was called. You see, they say, Russia is actually an Asian country.

        This isn’t a joke and happened to me. And the people were really really cross with me.

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    thanks for the heads up. I just unjoined all lemmy.ml communities, and blocked the instance. That sort of censorship is not a good thing.

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      Some of them came here from Reddit when chapo trap house got banned. Others are straight up BRICS propaganda accounts.

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        Ok what even the hell is BRICS at this point? It’s geopolitical “stop trying to make Fetch happen!” by now, two of it’s members are in active decline, one is at the edge of being a failed state, and the other two are about as actually committed to some kind of anti-western bloc as the average American prison is to respecting human rights.

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          Yep. It’s a joke. Was always going to be a joke. Maybe without authoritarian assholes leading the two largest members it could have become something.

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      Funny, communists always insist China isn’t communist at all, so why would they care about it being criticized?

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            Marx encouraged fascist dictatorships as a method to bring about the proletariat revolution.

            And this is why dictators love the, “give me just a little more power and once it’s secured I’ll hand it all back to the people, pinky swear” schtick.

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            If you go by the origin of the division and their definitions, they certainly are right. Authoritarian gov means centralising power. People arguing for the Ancient Regime were also pushing better for the people rethoric.

            Besides, they are supporting a state that is closest to a nazi state. russia.

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          I disagree, they’re firmly authleft, the problem is “auth.”

          Being authoritarian about leftist ideals doesn’t secretly make you right wing because “authoritarian = right wing.” Leftism isn’t “when good,” you can have bad leftists and pretending otherwise is nothing more than delusion.

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        Because the only stance that tankies actually hold is “America bad”, to the degree that anyone that is an opponent of America must automatically be good and must be supported at all costs

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        communists always insist China isn’t communist

        I can think of at least 95M Communists who don’t insist this.

        But modern American leftists are increasingly in love with China, particularly with their HSR and Tech programs.

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        Did the Lemmy developers register the name under the .ml TLD because they are such fans of Mali? Maybe but probably not.

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    I ran into something similar a couple days ago:

    I wrote a comment critical of Chinas actions in Africa, which was silently deleted after it got traction. When I looked at the mod log, my comment was not listed. Checked back on my comment, checked the mod log from another machine. Nothing.

    Just silently and covertly removed without any trace of who and why. Has me really suspicious

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      That tracks. China’s (imperialist) abuse of Africa isn’t the message they want out there. They frame it as win-win collaboration

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        Right. More like win and give up your sovereign right and decision making autonomy on all of the world bodies.

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      Believe me. I’ve noticed.

      Just ignore them. They open with ad hominem attacks, or myriad assumptions about age, account credibiltiy based on registration date, nationality vs ethnicity, political leanings, etc. and demand your response. Let them stew in their ignorant hate.