• halva@discuss.tchncs.de
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      ah yes posting “le gay bad” memes in response to a dictator who made the lives of queer people in the country he controls an actual hell

      go back to fuckin r/conservative with that shit

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        I’m pretty sure you misunderstood. Putin doesn’t like gays, so depicting him as one is bad. Doesn’t mean gays are bad

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          Most people understand that. But I don’t want to be associated with Putin even as a joke. Fuck him, he doesn’t deserve the honor of even being depicted as gay.

          I’m not saying no one can make this joke, but it seems kinda lazy and relies too much on stereotypes to be funny imo

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            It’s not lazy and it’s not supposed to be funny. The point is that he doesn’t like the image. It’s a big fuck you to Putin.

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              Again, I understand the point is that he doesn’t like the image. My point is that there is more than one way to interpret the image, and they’re not all positive. And when some one points that out, they’re downvoted and mocked.

              I say it’s lazy because I’ve been hearing people call straight people gay since elementary school. To piss them off. I don’t see how this is much different even if the intent was to criticize his homophobia. The effect is still the same

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                Also makes your question how accepted LGBT people actually are in the West, even among “liberals”, if this is what they think an insult is.

                It reads as “Being gay is fine and good so long as you support our positions; but the minute you start opposing us, we will use your sexual identity as a weapon against you. Remember that.”

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              He doesn’t care about the image, and it is incredibly delusional to pretend that such a depiction has any significance to anyone but terminally online and chronically underemployed white Americans under 40.

              Also, it is homophobic. If there is nothing wrong with being gay and crossdressing, then it is bigoted to portray our enemies as such as an insult.

              Being gay isn’t an insult. Crossdressing isn’t an insult. Being trans isn’t an insult. Depicting Putin as such isn’t an insult.

              All this does is further stigma against LGBT persons in the West. Is that your goal? Because that’s what is being done. And, ironically, it serves to further a goal that Putin supports - the increased stigmatization of LGBT life. You’re doing his work for him and are too narrow-minded to even realize it

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            The humour hits when you imagine how pissed off Putin would be about this image. Then you get to laugh again at his feeble attempt to ban an image on the intent when you learn about that part.

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              Yeah I can see how that’s funny. And I get the irony of the picture. I personally think it’s not in good taste, but I’m not trying to yuck anyone’s yum or cancel someone’s humor. Just explain why some of us don’t like it and try to understand why so many people downvoted the original person who disagreed.

              It really seems to be getting more divisive and less welcoming on Lemmy the longer I’m here

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              It’s not illegal to be a man anywhere in the world. There’s a deep sense of community with lgbt+ because it is, and has been, a struggle for most gay people. So when someone takes a photo of the very person who is discriminating against our community and makes it look like he’s a part of the community, it can hit a sore spot with some people.

              Again, I’m not trying to tell people to stop and I get that some people see it differently. But every time I’ve seen someone post that image, someone will say how that image can be interpreted as being gay is a joke, or that saying someone is gay when they’re not is bad form. And everyone dog piles and mocks them or calls them sensitive, etc. I’m mostly disappointed that it’s the same here and most people don’t care to hear a different perspective

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                I’m tired of hearing people cry about being offended from every little thing. You’re literally being offended right now by a drag queen gay looking mockup of Putin, that Putin banned because it pisses him off. Grow some skin.

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                  And there it is. I knew someone would say that. If you see me as a crying offended sjw with thin skin, then there’s no point in having this conversation. I laid out my differing perspective without being harsh or judgemental, all while feeling no offense.

                  Personally I’m tired of the right wing talking points that dismiss any different perspective as weak. I’m tired of communities like Lemmy becoming more divisive, with users seeing each other as enemies and not giving others the benefit of the doubt. I’m tired of typing out long comments that I put thought into, hoping people will respond like decent humans, and getting brain dead insults and defensive arguments.

                  I’ll make a deal with you, I’ll grow thicker skin if you grow some empathy.

          • A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world
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            Sharing a sexuality doesn’t associate you with him any more than sharing a hair color or preference of fabric softener

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              But that’s the thing, I’m not sharing a sexuality with him. Someone made him look like a gay stereotype because he hates people like me.

              And the whole point is the picture IS to associate him with the LGBT+ community, in an ironic way, to piss him off.

              If he made being blonde illegal and threw blondes in jail, that would be a fair analogy. But he didn’t, so that’s a terrible analogy. I mean, there are people that discriminate based on appearance and they’re called racists. So if this was a picture of Trump but photoshopped to look stereotypically Chinese, maybe that would be more of an equivalent analogy

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        Also, yet unmentioned, Putin’s government BANNED use of that Putin in drag image because it hurt his sensitive ego.

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        It’s not “le gay bad”, but more-so the idea of turning Putin into a gay icon in direct opposition to his identity politics.

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    In East Germany the people loved their nation most only weeks before collapse: 99,92% voted for the pro-soviet government.

    Then the CIA dropped 20 million agents from invisible helicopters which fakes mass demonstrations and used mind-control rays to make them love the west and hate the soviet union.

    In the first election after reunification the Communists got 11,1% of all votes in Former East Germany. Damned CIA mind control rays.

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      There aint no mind control rays.

      CIA sucked off commies into a democracy.

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      This is my favorite tankie cope.

      “The CIA obviously staged the protests and rigged the election against the communists!”

      So like, they snuck in millions of undercover agents?

      “Don’t be ridiculous, that’s not how it works!”

      So they stuffed the ballot box?

      “No, that’s what we tried to do.”

      You mean they forced people to vote at gunpoint?

      “NO IT WAS THE PROPAGANDA.”

      So the CIA just… Convinced people to support Western politics?

      “IT’S NOT FAIR! HOW CAN WE WIN IF PEOPLE HAVE AGENCY!”

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    88 just happens to be a Nazi reference used by white supremacists. Curious coincidences.

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      This time it might actually be a coincidence, someone at the political bureau tried to pick the closest number to 100 that wouldn’t look made up, 73 they were promptly excited for sedition my their boss who added 3 to the number and routed it to his boss,. Repeat the process 5 times and there you go “88”.

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    There’s a lot of people on .ml, Hexbear and Lemmygrad that are probably celebrating right now.

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        I know you’re wannabe-communists because it’s clear that based on your naivety and ignorance, none of you are out of high school yet.

        No adult with half a brain would buy into that nonsense.

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          The irony of an American trying to educate someone else on their ignorance, while simultaneously expressing their deepest ignorance themselves.

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            The irony of someone making blanket statements about an entire country of people while simultaneously posturing as someone that should be above such behavior.

            However, if you’re a communist- American or not- I’m smarter than you. Period. End of story.

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              Lmao thanks. I had not met my government mandated amount of chuckles yet!

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                If you get your way, you just might have to some day. It’s with hope that you’ll grow up long before then though so you can stand against it with the rest of us.

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    I just want to point out here that this is what many Trump voters are hoping for. If you’re a US citizen, please vote in November.

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    even in a rigged election that stupid cunt isn’t able to achieve over 90%. what an absolute worthless sucker!

    Fast forward to the point where you put an end to your miserable life you russian fuck and finally relieve us from your existence!

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      If you’re rigging an election, it can be better politically to give yourself 65% of the vote than 97% of the vote.

      97% is obviously fake. 65% is easier to make people beleive in.

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      that is because you cringe KAMARAD russians are most intelligent, much more than african dictators 88% for most glorious president of russia and 22% for president’s prime minister That way we can lie to people about opposition being very close to glorious president ideas

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          Well standard election story mode is 100% completion but the extra 10% is finding all hidden hammer & sickle icons and Collectables in every level.

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          The soviet education system was famed… but it’s been about thirty years and most of the academics fled a while back.

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            The number of brilliant Russian professors in the west is a sad testament to how little modern Russia has in common with the Soviet union.

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    saying “nobody in history has ever succeeded” in suppressing the will of Russians

    Nobody except you