A judge ordered Planned Parenthood to hand records of transgender care over to Andrew Bailey.
A St. Louis judge has ruled that Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey is entitled to Planned Parenthood’s transgender care records, ordering the nonprofit to turn over some of its most sensitive files to the man who has built his unelected political career on restricting health care access for trans people.
In his Thursday decision, Circuit Judge Michael Stelzer wrote that Bailey can collect documents under Missouri’s consumer protection statute that aren’t protected under federal mandate, namely the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, better known as HIPAA.
“It is clear from the statute that the Defendant has the broad investigative powers when the consumer is in possible need of protection and there is no dispute in this matter,” wrote Stelzer. “Therefore, the Defendant is entitled to some of the requested documents within his [Civil Investigative Demand].”
Bailey, who last year attempted to implement a ban on gender-affirming care for people of all ages, was quick to celebrate the decision, calling it a “big day” for the state.
"My team will get to the bottom of how this clandestine network of clinics has subjected children to puberty blockers and irreversible surgery, often without parental consent,” he wrote in a statement.
Ffs, he makes it sound like toddlers are getting snatched off the streets to get “trans’ed”.
Give me one fucking case anywhere in this state where a minor was given surgery without parental consent. Go ahead, I’ll wait.
Honestly they have sown the myths of trans healthcare so hard that people legit believe 5 year olds are receiving puberty blockers. The barest of sense is easier to hijack than people can believe. It’s why we can’t depend on a majority vote for stuff like this. The airbrains are being given butterflies to chase and then telling us we’re crazy. They probably have some fictional bogeyman-esque case someone wrote an article about or a interviewee they managed to play out of context nonsense from to cite you.
people legit believe 5 year olds are receiving puberty blockers.
The funniest part is, that’s exactly who puberty blockers were initially intended for. Like the whole original point of puberty blockers is to block puberty in young children who are prematurely entering puberty. They’ve been in use for decades too, but no one complained until they started to be used in gender affirming care 🙄
Which was pretty much from the beginning too.
The sad thing is that puberty blockers are a discussion worth having. They aren’t perfect. It’s tech absolutely worth refining for trans usage to combat it’s drawbacks but we can’t talk about having awesome perfect trans care with amazing outcomes when the conversation we’re having is whether we’re allowed to have any trans care at all.
It must be a new strain of that chemical they put in the water that turns the friggin frogs gay
IT’S NOT. HUMAN. INTELLIGENCE!!!
Huh?
Sorry I thought we were doing Alex Jones impressions.
Oh lol
When people were arguing for this ban in Indiana, people were saying the same stupid shit.
And it turned out that there was no hospital or clinic that performed such surgery on minors in the first place.
They didn’t care, they just kept saying it.
Why should it matter if the parents give consent if the minor cant consent? A parents could consent to their child getting a face tattoo, but it doesnt mean a kid can consent to that.
I don’t understand your question. Children can’t consent, so when they would need to consent to something, their guardians are asked to consent for them. That’s how e.g. all medical surgeries are performed on children.
So then what if the child wants a face tattoo, should the parent be able to consent for them?
What do you mean, “should”?
Legal guardians do handle consent for their wards, which is why circumcisions are legal - there’s no meaningful legal distinction here between a face tattoo and a circumcision.
That’s how things are. If you’re asking me how things ought to be, that’s an absurd question to ask someone on the internet.
Of course there is a legal distinction and practical difference between a face tatoo and circumcision, that is just silly. So you are perfectly fine with a minor permanently changing themselves just as long as their parents dont disagree?
Why do you care /what does it matter what I’m perfectly fine with? I’ve been describing the way the country’s legal system works to you. I’m not a lawmaker, I can’t change any of these rules.
No, that is not how the legal system works…
I care because children dont have the ability to consent, and if they are being abused then they have the right to be protected.
How else do you think transgender women have gotten so much hotter in the past decade or so?
(This is a joke btw and I hate that I have to say this)
Conservatives : Show me your personal medical records. I need to know if you are commiting crimes.
Also conservatives: No you can’t see my tax returns. That’s personal.
Even better - Conservatives: show me your personal medical records, I need to know if you are doing something I want to be illegal.
Also conservatives: what do you mean you want to check my mental health background before I can purchase a gun? Outrageous.
The whole LGBT stuff is such bullshit since it should 100% easily fall under first amendment expression it is retarded that they have not been trounced are every turn.
Ah, but you see, there is no restrictions to owning a gun. Our forefathers believed so, even though at the time every gun was a single shot using black powder that wasn’t that accurate. They absolutely knew that one day people would have semi-automatic weapons able to fire off an obscene amount rounds in a minute, hitting a target accurately from a long distance.
Don’t forget that they were just coming out of a time of oppression and persistent existential fear, but were obviously clairvoyant enough to know that it would be a rule that held in what would be the absolute safest and most peaceful time the world has known in 200 years.
Man fuck Republicans
isn’t this like, explicitly anti HIPPA (or HIPAA since apparently medical acronyms suck)?
Shouldn’t this be like, INCREDIBLY illegal?
Not like the Christians care but it also violates the fourth
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
ah yes, a classic, the fourth, i mean the forced amendment.
Silly commie. The 4th amendment is like the 3rd, 7th, and 8th. They’re all outdated silly things that are completely irrelevant to our modern world unlike the 2nd and certain interpretations of the 1st
The ruling specifically said items that aren’t protected under federal mandate. When I deal with HIPAA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act) information, just about everything you can imagine in the record is protected if it can be paired with another piece of info and narrow down a person’s identity. Scroll down to the ‘Protected Health Information’
Hopefully that means they can deny just about every document… but I have no hope when it comes to courts and prosecutors in the states.
yeah no this definitely seems illegal then. There’s no way asking for medical documents of trans people isn’t going to reveal personal information about them, unless you’re looking for fucking statistics?
Given those are the only documents this ruling entitles the AG to, it sounds like statistics are all he’s gonna get.
what a funny time to live in huh
HIPAA
No, they’re referring to the Health Insurance Portability and Paccountability Act.
the p in hippa stands for accountability
I thought they were talking about that hungra, hungra animal from Africa.
Go sit in in a personal injury trial and see how worthless HIPPA actually is.
hipaa is one of the things of all time, that’s definitely for sure.
But there are also things it’s supposed to be doing, so.
The singling out of a group and taking away rights seems familiar. Something, Something, Something third Reich.
You’re just saying that because a certain government in Germany forcefully obtained a list of people who’d received gender affirming care. I wonder why the names on that list seem to not have been around in the 1950s
The names may have changed but boy does the current situation in the USA catch the spirit of it. Scapegoat one particular class and villainize them.
Well what I was trying to say is that those patients did not survive the Nazi regime. The famous photo of a Nazi book burning was an act of transphobia and homophobia.
Ah, miscommunication in that case.
More familiar than you think.
https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/
Remember this when someone tries to claim both sides are the same!
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TIL I’m a blue conservative 😂😭💀
it’s a blue conservative like you
what the hell? where are you getting this
You should do something more productive with your Adderall
What isn’t covered by HIPPA?
I think that they are trying to use “Medicaid fraud” as a backdoor to access medical records. I mean, the AG is specifically saying otherwise but that’s the loophole they will use to get these records.
Anything these fascists don’t like while they’re running their theocracy.
Reason I moved my family out of that y’all queda nightmare.
HIPAA protections are federal. Planned Parenthood won’t just turn over records that are protected by HIPAA.
It’s funny that you think fascist give a shit about federal law, not like that don’t have a history of ignoring federal statutes when they disagree with something.
*HIPAA
But it’s not exactly clear yet which documents Bailey will be able to access or that sensitive medical records are completely off the table, as legal experts warn that HIPAA operates with a fairly narrow scope.
Does anyone here with any experience in this field know what sort of information he could access that would be damaging to patients?
Technically this is a grey area and they are blatantly misusing the exception for court order/warrant rule. HIPAA just states that records must be turned over but doesn’t get into details concerning how much or how little should be provided. I really can’t believe the judge allowed this but I suspect (hopeful anyway)that this will get kicked up to a federal court since federal law supercedes state laws.
There needs to be a stay of enforcement if it’s going to be appealed.
Though I fully suspect that if it gets to SCOTUS, there isn’t going to be much hope.
Doesn’t that precedent make it possible for medical records covering abortions to be used in the same way? Repubs would never allow that, they have too much to lose by having people find out what they’ve done.
Republicans would absolutely allow that. They are willing to bite their own noses off just to spit in their enemies faces.
How it would play out is selective prosecution where only
democratspoor people or non-whites get charged.White Christians would get a pass at best. Or blackmailed at worst.
Yeah, true. Their voters have zero integrity or consistency. And their propaganda networks will be pretending that voter fraud is happening as a cover so they’ll never know in the first place.
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It mostly depends on what he does with the information. Any personally identifiable information that becomes public puts someone at serious risk of being persecuted or physically threatened.
The statement from Planned Parenthood includes:
Despite the Attorney General’s demand that PPSLR turn over all patient medical records related to gender-affirming care, the court ruled that individual patient records remain protected — a major victory for patients’ privacy rights.
I suspect this means the AG may receive de-identified records including procedure or diagnosis information, but not including any patient identifying information such as patient or billing account, name, address, social, date of birth, date of service, etc.
It could also include aggregate information about providers and facilities, especially if records are obtained under the guise of a fraud investigation, allowing the AG to target locations and providers where patients frequently obtain specific services. That route might be the most harmful to patients, for ex. if they’re unable to continue receiving care because of harassment of the providers.
100% this guy smokes poles on the DL.
It’s almost perfectThis is why they insist that being gay is a choice. They themselves are gay and they have chosen to just live in the closet. Now that it’s so much more accepted, they’re spitefully trying to force others to endure the hardship they live every day. Their misery is lonely.
“Being gay is a choice” is something I had impressed on me by my mother. In a way she was right. For some of us, it’s a choice between life and death.
Candy canes, not poles.
He’s a creeper.
Another Grindr profile with no picture, and probably just “HMU” in the text portion.
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I HAVE A WIDE STANCE
There is no such thing as a good conservative alive today. Conservatives bring only oppression and death. They are the enemy of humanity.
They are (and have always been) regressives but yeah.
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Eh. I’m glad we have conservatives because I see how crazy liberals can be when they get there way with no pushback.
I think if liberals tried less to control people’s thoughts, they would be more palatable to independents.
Is the mind-control “liberal” in the room with us right now?
Probably.
Just check the modlogs :P
Work towards peace, prepare for the inevitable.
Little shit never leaves his enclave either.
He knows what will happen if he ever shows his face in KC or St. Louis.
Probably just so he can wank to the pictures.
What the hell? Seriously, living your life is too much to ask?
Me thinks someone has a secret affection for a certain group of people.
Yeah, I stopped with that line of thought ages ago. Regardless of whether it’s true for any percentage of cases, they’re still monsters causing massive amounts of damage and trauma to people just trying to exist. They’ve also shown us time and time again that hypocrisy is no barrier for them.
There’s only one party that cares about hypocrisy and it ain’t the fucking republicans.
Agreed.
