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I know a lot of people who work from home, none of them do so from bed.
My sister…
I did it on the sofa, was pretty much the same
I read this article the other day and tried working from my bed but couldn’t do it for more than maybe 15 mins.
While slumping over a desk for 9 hours straight improves back health. Prevents 100% of cases of lumbago.
It’s not just that the old money dragons of commercial real estate are losing money, it’s also that middle management nothings need to exert their authority over you in person to feel relevant.
WFH makes every company money on decreased overhead. The war against it is 100% commercial property landlords that collect rent in the billions.
Fuck every single one of those fucking assholes. They are destroying our world to squeeze out just a little more.
I mean if our zoning wasn’t so overly strict, those real estate holders could cash in on enormous rent prices by transforming that commercial space into apartments.
Then there would be more housing supply, rents would go down, homelessness would improve, and those real estate holders would be able to get back to making profit, and there’d be less lying about the pros and cons of working from home.
All of it could be better, through the mechanism of consensual mutual profit that we call the free market. If only the government weren’t constantly enforcing largely arbitrary rules about how this block can house people but that block can only be for offices.
Keeping rendering plants away from preschools is fine. Arbitrarily telling people they can’t put beds and kitchens into a commercial space and let people live there is not.
There’s profit being lost AND people going homeless because there is a third party constantly preventing us from making the deals that mutually improve our lives.
And they’ve convinced you the real estate owners are the evil ones.
Unfortunately the building codes for office and residential buildings are very different and it’s damn near impossible to convert many offices into residences.
Perhaps it’s still more profitable than letting a building sit there un-used. The market should be allowed to try.
That’s okay, I’ll take a whole floor with no showers or kitchen for a cheap price.
It’s not hard, it’s just not profitable meaning they have to take a lost, you know, like everyone else who makes a bad investment.
It doesn’t matter what you’ll “take”. It’s illegal to live in a building that doesn’t meet code for residential units. Stuff like natural light as well as adequate plumbing and ventilation are important.
And they wouldn’t just be converting entire floors into single units. Those would be beyond luxury sizes. You think a 50 storey building can afford to become a 50-unit apartment? How is that going to solve our housing crisis? Don’t be dense.
For a conversion to work, they would need to be able to convert every floor of an office building into sufficiently dense housing. But office buildings are typically laid out with very deep footprints, where much of the internal layout of the building is far from any sources of natural light. Humans need access to natural light, which is why it’s not legal to sell a unit where the main rooms don’t all have windows. That can’t be fixed without tearing down the building and building something new.
It’s illegal to live in a building that doesn’t meet code for residential units.
Yes. The idea here is that relaxing those laws and allowing
Stuff like natural light as well as adequate plumbing and ventilation are important.
More important than having a roof over one’s head? A “free market” is when people make their own decisions about what’s important instead of the nanny state doing it for them.
And they wouldn’t just be converting entire floors into single units.
I guess if plumbing is an issue then you could get about as many units out of an office as bathrooms that the office floor could support.
Humans need access to natural light
Last time I stayed in a homeless shelter I had zero natural light. I was very, very happy to be inside, and nobody was forcing me to be there. I happily, eagerly, traded my natural light for shelter.
Free. Market. Adults making their own choices. Humans do not, in fact, need natural light. And the fact that some building code makes that claim, does not make it an aspect of reality.
Propaganda is really getting dumber. The shit they make up looks like an accident of a bunch of clown cars.
That is straight up not what bed rotting is. Bed rotting is when you’re so depressed you can’t bring yourself to get out of bed at all. Like, it’s a mental health condition, not lazyness.
Better than office rotting
Luckily i built a home office and gym with all the money I saved not paying for 2 hours of commuting, parking and getting lunch 260 days/year. I’ve never been in better shape mentally or physically!
That’s bad for the laptop tho. Get one of those little bed tables.
It’s a Mac Book. Getting hot enough to fry an egg is a feature.
Only on the old Intel models.
New m3 doesn’t
Cool. You know what I got from sitting in a cheap office chair all day at work?
Hemorrhoids.
I’ll take “bed rot.”
Uhhhh I think you might want to look into your diet. Chairs don’t give hemorrhoids. A bad diet will tho.
You’re wrong about chairs. You’re right about a bad diet, but sitting for 10+ hours a day will cause or exacerbate haemorrhoids. One of many sources available on the internet: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hemorrhoids/symptoms-causes/syc-20360268
Yeah, okay. The bleeding started when I started working there and stopped when I sat on a hemorrhoid pillow. Must have been my diet.
Sounds like you were doing it wrong.
You’re not supposed to thrust the chair into your asshole.
Your rules and my desires do not align
TIL
I’m impressed at how much time you spend on lemmy, and how little you spend actually reading any of the articles you get outraged over.
There is absolutely zero in this article about RTO. It’s all about not working in your bed as that can develop poor sleep habits. It’s all about acting in a way so you get good sleep. Why anyone would get outraged over this or turn this into part of some grand conspiracy between the media and big business to get people back into the office is beyond me.
Clearly this is what the submitter is attempting to imply. Don’t be so easily played.
Cool. I didn’t want to read a page full of spammy bullshit, as OP suggested. Sorry that wasn’t okay with you.
You are too easily played. Think for yourself, instead of letting some lemmy poster manipulate you so easily into being outraged with blatantly misrepresentative titles to articles. If you don’t want to read “spammy bullshit” then just don’t read it, but then I suggest you also don’t get outraged over it because the OP is telling you to be outraged. It doesn’t matter if I’m okay with this, you shouldn’t be.
What makes you think I was outraged?
What this comes down to is that got played by the OP. It’s more important that you take away from this is that you should think for yourself, rather than try to nit-pick over whether you were actually outraged.
I am sure you have never been tricked in your life, but just because I do get tricked on occasion does not mean I am unable to think for myself. It means I’m not perfect and I’m not smart, two things I have never claimed or pretended to be. And if you think being imperfect and not smart means you are unable to think for yourself, you must not think very highly of your species’ ability to do so. Based on random internet encounters too.
Anyway, it was an unwarranted insult. I get that you’re better than me, you’ve made that clear, I won’t argue with you. Can we move on?
I am sure you have never been tricked in your life
No, I absolutely have. I’ve even been tricked by misleading headlines of articles. What I took away from this, after it happened, was that I should RTFA before responding. Still, sometimes, I don’t, but usually those responses will just be jokes.
on occasion does not mean I am unable to think for myself.
I hate to break it to you, but I spend too much time on lemmy too, and I see your posts all the time. Quite regularly your comments are in response to some false assumption about the article, that clearly came from the headline. It seems to happen far more than “on occasion.” Slow down. You don’t need to come to an opinion in a flash. Hell, you don’t even need to come to an opinion about it at all. If you don’t want to take the time to read the article, then that should also indicate to you that you shouldn’t rush to an opinion and then take the time to comment on that opinion.
It’s not a condition.
It’s a word someone made up to shame people into going against their best interests.
You think developing good sleep habits by only using your bed for sleep and intimacy is against your best interests?
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Are you actually arguing that the article is not about good sleep habits? Did you even read it? Or did you just simply believe the spin by the submitter?
The funny thing is that the RTO part of the headline is editorialization added solely by the person submitting it. If anyone is falling for propaganda here, it’s you. You’re the one being played by spin meant to push an agenda.
Why is it that the people who believe there is some massive conspiracy, that they believe they see through, are the ones so easily led around like sheep?
TIL “bed rotting” is a TikTok term for avoiding the world as a way to deal with burnout until you decide to come out of bed. Doesn’t sound bad on the face of it, but obviously being immobile for long periods isn’t great.
How that transitioned to essentially working from bed and the problems with immobility I don’t know.
Who’s calling it this?
Rich people
Shitty rich people
that’s what they said
A redundant concept.
I read this from bed, and I will become a literal cenobite before I return to my office desk
Re sauce:
I can’t browse through the brain rot 😢
Translation: “Europe will sue us if we place the cookies we want, but our advertisers will sue us if we don’t”
ARTICLE:
Ever since the coronavirus pandemic, working from home has become normalized. But working from home can also lead to a very bad habit called bed rotting. This new trend encourages people to stay in bed for passive activities, but that can spill over into work.
“I’m not one to, like, get up and get ready every single day. But I need my screens. I need my monitors. I need my set up,” said Caroline Wharry, who works in marketing from home a few days a week.
Wharry said working from home is a new type of lifestyle, but bed rotting sounds somewhat lazy and uncomfortable.
“I take my meetings, and when I’m on meetings, I try to have my camera on. So, I do not understand how they’re doing all of that from their bed,” Wharry said.
Elise Vader, a physician’s assistant and sleep specialist with University Hospital, said people could also develop insomnia.
“For general health. We know that being active and moving is important for the body, for your mood, for your muscle health, for your heart health,” Vader said.
A Sleep Doctor survey found about six out of 10 remote and hybrid workers say they bed rot during work hours. Four out of every 10 men say they are more likely to bed rot compared to just two out of every 10 women. And four out of every 10 bed rotters say they were influenced to do it because they heard about it from others.
“The No. 1 thing is when it comes to what we call sleep hygiene, which is like the best way to get the most healthy sleep, you know, keeping your room cool, dark and quiet, staying away from screens. This kind of goes against that,” said Marten Carlson, a sleep science coach.
About 40% of bed rotters say they spend one to two hours working from their bed, and about half of those bed rotters say they spend at least half of their day in bed.
“When we think about sleep, especially when you’re doing activities in bed, you’re training your brain that the bed is for being awake and active,” said Dr. Kristi Pruiksma, an assistant professor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at UT Health San Antonio.
She advised that the bed should be used for sleep and intimacy only.
Bed sores are not a new thing.
yeah I was about to point out that corpos certainly did not just invent the word “bedrot” for their own benefit. This has been a thing for a while. Nurses often have to walk patients who are admitted for several days to prevent “bed rot” symptoms.
If you were staying in bed all day, every day, yeah you’re gonna get some severe health issues pretty damn quick. But if you’re getting up and moving around regularly, you shouldn’t worry… but in that case, it would make more sense to idk buy a desk, sit at a table, or on the couch. A laptop in bed is not practical and certainly not comfortable with the heat it generates. Quite frankly I don’t understand why anyone would ever choose to use a laptop in bed if they have other options available.
Because comfy.
I don’t even disagree with your points. I do notice that my back muscles will quickly undevelop, if I work from bed all day.
But on Monday, I had a stressful day in the office, so I had no qualms spending yesterday working mostly from my bed.
Similarly, someone who does more sports than me could easily counteract the effects.
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