• NickwithaC@lemmy.worldOP
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    6 months ago

    Yeah, I was kinda hoping for better when I posted. Seems like many of the sons who need this talk are on here.

    • GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      The sad part is, you can tell some of them understand the point being made. But are either over reacting and making this about gender warfare. Or taking the scenario seriously, and trying to mock it that way.

    • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Its disparaging to an entire gender. I would argue lots of people need many talks. Lots of evil out there and many of it goes unnoticed or is accepted due to current cultural climate. Including passive aggressive disparaging questions meant to vilify men.

      • Leg@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        I’d say we’re right to be disparaged against, up until we get our collective act together as men. Women should be wary of us for the simple fact that it aids in their survival. A comment like hers is at the very bottom of my list of things to change.

          • Leg@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            We have to keep trying. Speaking as a black American who knows America’s history with black people, it’s important that we don’t give up just because we haven’t succeeded yet. Change of this magnitude takes a proportional amount of time.

            • AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world
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              6 months ago

              Yep. “Not all _____” just sidesteps the point and tries to make it all about you. When someone not of my demographic says people in my demographic are hurting them, it’s time for me to shut up and listen. It’s not about me.

    • yamanii@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Seriously OP, what did you expect by posting the textbook a example of a clickbait article?

      • NickwithaC@lemmy.worldOP
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        6 months ago

        That at least one comment would get that men need to start challenging other men to get this problem solved?

        • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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          6 months ago

          How does hyperbole help foster an open conversation?

          I’m male, though I consider myself non-conforming, for context. I’ve ridden home on the metro with coworkers in their thirties because it’s 8 PM and they don’t feel safe - and I have friends that are SA survivors. The difference in perception is absolutely something to be aware of and if you think most women can enjoy a nice 3 AM walk without massive anxiety you’re clearly out of touch.

          This is an important conversation to have and it’s important to be more aware of what gestures we might make that can be perceived as threatening, however, this article was posed with such a hyperbolic title that it won’t ever spur those conversations. Were the misogynistic assholes that responded with “You’re gonna wish you had a man” to the author assholes? Absolutely. But even a charitable reading of the title doesn’t yield a helpful place to start a conversation.