He is now denying the validity of dna tests. I don’t want to say the past 35 years of having him treat me worse than he treats his sister had anything to do with his assumptions of my dna, but he was upset to learn that I am more Irish than him. I wonder what he thought of my mother before these results…

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    The only way I would touch these DNA tests is if I was somehow assured that it was completely anonymous and would be shredded as soon as I’ve seen it.
    They literally turn around and sell your data, grouped along with others, to whoever wants it, and then get hacked and lose personal info. Hot mess.

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      They also sell it along with personally identifying inform information to your health insurance provider and the government. It’s quite bullshit and should be illegal.

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      You can delete your dna after submitting it and viewing your results. Most dna sites have that option. Just curious, what are you afraid someone would do with your dna results? The government in America already keeps dna results on all babies born in the 80’s and later.

      You have more to risk by joining NDMP to be a bone marrow donor, but in that case you’d probably want them to use your dna to find patients you could help. I honestly think everyone should join NDMP. I don’t work for them, or have anything to gain from their organization. I just think everyone should join and help people with cancer.

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        Just curious, what are you afraid someone would do with your dna results? The government in America already keeps dna results on all babies born in the 80’s and later.

        Corporations aren’t exactly known for being honest or fair, or following the law, when they have valuable data to sell. They might tell you that they’ll delete your data but there’s always a chance that they’ll retain it and sell it under the table if someone makes a compelling offer. Or an employee could steal the data and sell it secretly, or they could have a security breach and someone could make off with it.

        Why would any of that be bad? Because health insurance companies are salivating over new ways to deny your claims (or crank up your premiums) and genetic data that reveals an elevated risk of a serious condition is a damned good excuse for them to do just that.

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        You can delete your dna after submitting it and viewing your results.

        But how do you know it’s actually deleted. Like, unrecoverable deleted and not just soft deleted. I can’t change my DNA when the data is eventually leaked.

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    I’ve heard before that there is a tendency of these tests to over-report European ancestry and under-report or misidentify ethnic minorities. Something to do with the underlying datasets not being inclusive enough because those populations are smaller and don’t purchase these DNA tests at the same rate as Western Europeans.

    There also seems to be a weird fetishisation of First Nations ancestry in parts of the US. I’ve also been told I have Cherokee ancestors, but it didn’t show in my dna ancestory either.

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          I’m up in northern Ontario in Canada and I had a French Canadian neighbor who loved watching John Wayne movies. He often told me that he had Cherokee ancestry too.

          I told him a hundred times that this wasn’t Cherokee territory because I was full blooded Ojibwe Cree from this area and we had never heard of Cherokee. I kept telling him that he was probably part Ojibwe or Algonquin which is who the French mixed with in our area … but he really wanted to be a John Wayne movie Indian.

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          Mixed race / olive skinned people trying to find something more acceptable in order to avoid being outcast. Also, edgelords.

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        You hear it so much that frankly when I hear it I assume they’re lying. Like it’s become that stereotype.

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        My mother always claimed that some amount of greats-grandmother was a Cherokee princess, but I’ve always thought it was bunk.

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          Definitely bunk because there were no Cherokee princesses. Could still have some sort of Native American ancestry but that whole Cherokee Princess thing was so overused at one point that it became a trope.

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        It’s unstated racism.

        If someone in your past could get a good tan, it was common to say that they were part “< insert native american tribe from your area>” because you definitely didn’t want to be perceived as part black.

        Look up the “one-drop rule”.

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          I’m sure that was a factor in many of these instances. That said in our family my impression was it was more of a “here’s something special about us” type thing, like there’s nothing otherwise noteworthy.

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            That’s generally how these things are always communicated to later generations. 😂

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    I have documented ancestry of Choctaw, card and everything, but my genetic test show 0%. The blood amount is quite low at 1/128

    This could be because of the way genes work, roll the dice enough time and there are no genes left. On the other hand many Native Americans are not keen on giving away genetic data after their history with the US.

    I’m not saying you are or aren’t part native American, but genetic tests are limited.

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      Almost like race is a bs social construct and we are all human who deserve to be treated well

      …almost

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    Not surprising. My mother was told by her mother that one of her great grandmothers was full blooded native (no specific tribe) which would make me 1/16 native. DNA showed 0% and one my mother took showed 0% for her. She chalked it up to her mother being nuts but it is a fairly common American family myth.

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    Knew a pastor who this happened to. He was adamant that he was part Native American. After a DNA test it turned out he was zero percent Native American.

    He was big enough to embrace it, tho

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      He wasn’t a pastor in tribal land, was he? That would have been awkward.

      I’m just glad I was never awarded any scholarship based upon being Native American. How bad would it have been if I had traced my supposed heritage to the point of applying for one of those tribal citizenship cards? That would have been humiliating!

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        Sorta depends on the tribe I think. At least for me, my grandfather has his card (Choctaw) and that was the only requirement for me. My DNA test showed something like 0.1% native.

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        There are lots of tribal card carrying natives who wouldn’t test positive for native ancestry on a DNA test. The tribes don’t even use these tests, they require you to prove ancestry with birth and death certificates from yourself back to someone listed on the final rolls. At least that’s how my tribe works. That guarantees that you are in-fact an ancestor, and doesn’t depend upon tests whose accuracy has been disputed.

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    Curious on how they separate between Norway and “Sweden & Denmark”. Seems like an odd grouping as arguably Norway have closer ties to both Sweden and Denmark than they do together.

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    Sprinkle in a small amount of Russian and we’re cousins!

    What I think would be cool and novel would be for a European person to claim Indigenous American heritage. Flip the script.

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    After seeing these countries in my dna map, and having visited many of them in winter, I have to admit, if I ever won some huge amount of lottery money, I would return to those places and gather any homeless locals off the curb and try to help them become Americans. Have you ever been to a country where you literally watched people freeze to death on the street, because no city in the country is warm enough to survive outside during winter? I love Ireland, but I don’t love the fact that some of their locals die on the street by freezing death. The problem isn’t just one country. Even London made the news for having homeless suffering outside this winter. They can’t just bus their homeless to a warmer city. There is no warmer city in those countries. I feel for the governments there. I know they’re overwhelmed already, but it’s inhumane to let people freeze to death on the street without an option to move to a warmer location.