For a brief moment in the beta for all this, it basically just summarized the top two or three reputable results, and attached a link to where it got the data.
They should have just left it at that, and not started mixing in random blogs and social media sites.
The ability to summarize the Wikipedia article and a random university professors page where they list every fact known to man about pine trees or something was actually helpful.If I want the AIs best guess about how to fuck up a pizza, I just go to the site where I can ask it. Bad advice when searching is just shit.
A tldr for “what is turpentine” is actually helpful.This reminds me: I need to change my default search engine.
SearXNG: poor man’s Kagi (one seemingly reputable instance)
On iOS, I set my default search to DuckDuckGo, and enabled Hyperweb on the DDG domain to redirect to SearXNG. I use a Google Images bookmark saved as a favorite when I need images (SearXNG results inferior even when using Google as the sole engine).
I anecdotally suspect Kagi of astroturfing btw, but after some free trials it seems to be about the best Google alternative - gotta be [earning like] a [US-based] knowledge worker though, or really care about search.
I’ve been really liking Kagi. It’s been my default for about 5 months now.
ddg image search is superior to Google’s though.
I’m kidddddding I’m kidding!
You’ve once again reminded me to properly catalog my comparison searches. Only one I could find in my screenshots:
I start with !ddgi but more than half the time hit it with a !gi bang to go over to the Alphabet Adware Image search. I swear I’m gonna catalog this stuff and then maybe it’ll be apparent:
- I do weird searches
- Google is search bubbling me even when I’m private browsing
- I’m misperceiving the frequency at which DDG image searches actually fail me
Or maybe my use cases are fairly normal and Goog really is superior, TBD!
One thing that keeps me coming back to Google is shopping, or searching for online stores, or searching for prices. The shopping tab is somewhat useful and I don’t know any other search engine that does it (because it’s barely a search engine thing tho)
you don’t even have to go to the shopping tab anymore… even if you’re just looking for information on something they mix in shopping results right at the top
google is gigantic piece of shit
I’m kinda surprised he isn’t bound by some sort of NDA.
AI told him he could ignore it.
These are all general opinion statements. There aren’t any verifiable facts like, “on this date at a meeting with x we discussed how AI project y is myopic and non-user-centered.”
Some companies have you sign things after leaving.
Obviously, when you start laying people off, or do stupid shit like stack ranking, some people are going to walk out and just blab about all the dumb shit your employer does/did - and they’re heroes for doing so.
NDAs are usually signed when you’re hired, not when you leave.
I think that Amazon and Meta (where this is a known practice) do both. I’ve not signed anything in tech that stops me talking about internal company practices or any work that might have resulted in “voluntary” dismissal, but others in these companies that do the Jack Walsh thing and fire their employees do…
What are they gonna do if you refuse to sign? Fire you?
If this guy voluntarily left, then he wasn’t getting a severance package that they could withhold (and on that note, this is a good reason to include involuntary severence in your employment contract, if you can negotiate it).
For many, it’s the severance offered that makes them sign. If you’re about to lose your job, a few months pay, and free relocation back home if your visa is due to be cancelled is likely enough to make you sign something.
I’m not condoning it, at all. I think the practice is fucking disgusting, and have seen it wreck lives, but it’s a reality in many tech companies, including Google under Sundar.
But they’re not gonna offer severence to someone who quits, right?
The wording made it sound like he quit rather than got laid off.
My understanding is that while you’re 100% being terminated (and are ineligible for rehire) what you sign indicates that you’re actually volunteering to resign.
For more info on it, look up Amazon’s Focus and Pivot programs.
Laws will differ in different places, but I’m familiar with 3 categories of terminations:
- With cause (firing)
- Without cause (layoff)
- Voluntary (quitting)
When someone is terminated with cause or quits, they are not entitled to severance and they do not collect unemployment insurance. When someone is laid off, the employer is obligated to pay a severence package.
The Amazon focus and pivot program is interesting. That definitely looks like they’re bribing low performers to quit, and I smell an ulterior motive. Maybe it’s to get them to sign an NDA but I feel like it’s to avoid wrongful dismissed lawsuits. Although I suppose why not both?
Every tech company I worked at, NDAs were a doc to not share code or research discoveries.
I mean if this is Google’s new Google+ moment there’s only one person we can call upon in our time of need:
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Reminds me of a facebook reel in which allegedly a doctor recommends to drink at least 3-5 coffees a day
Me when self medicating adhd
Self-medicating ADHD sufferers recommend consuming 3-5 entire pots of coffee a day, and a treat of another 150-300mg before bed
Tbh 3 cups could still easily* be me while properly medicated.
I drank more coffee when I was taking Adderall than when I stopped.
That’s interesting. I wonder why that is.
Mine was a monster every two hours on my break. So much sugar and caffeine.
The difference is that Google+ was actually a wonderful product.
But a couple years down the line Google did what Google does and destroyed it from the inside making it worse and worse until it was just a shell of what it started out being.
Google did what Google does
I remember wrapping my head around “Google Wave” and being like “Hey that sounds nea–oh it’s gone already?”
Dude for real. Wave was awesome.
Fucking lmao
If Google tries to lock me in, watch me lock me out.
How do you get the AI results on google.com? When I search for anything, it shows a summary and then all the results, sponsors, etc… Nothing is tagged as “AI”.
(I never visit google so forgive me if this has an obvious answer)
I think it’s still in A/B testing stages, 80% of my searches don’t include the AI but it pops up occasionally. I also notice it more often on my phone, and rarely on my desktop where I’m not signed in.
You can opt into it and other beta technologies at Google Labs.
Thank you!
I can reproduce most results with Google app on Android. I’m in Europe, not in USA. It just appears as some text below the search box, not marked as anything. Except this one about smoking. Now it says smoking as bad. I guess Google already told the AI to behave.
Are you in the US?
Yeah
I’m not sure then. Maybe Google is just rolling it out in waves, and hasn’t gotten to you yet?
All good. I’ll just continue to mock their progress for now.
The difference between G+ and now is that Google search is actually bad now and they need to do something to fix it, but they just did the completely wrong thing…
The logical Destiny for a search engine which give more importance to SEO crap and surveillance advertising, than on relevant and reliable results. It’s a filter bubble platform like others which logs your searches. It’s like someone which always agree with you, even if you are wrong.
I think it is interesting to point out that AI will be good, maybe too good. It isn’t right now, it’s a novelty in the early stages of such mass adoption that a lot of the consequences are just starting to appear.
The phones owned by Gen A in 40 years will have a useful, realistic, and default AI assistant. It just sucks that the development of this technology is only driven by late-stage capitalism.
I liked that insider peek from Jenson - well I liked reading all of this, but especially that:-).
Google Plus was a good platform that was horribly managed.
This is especially interesting, considering he left Google 3 years ago, according to his website. It’s a bit misleading to put this old tweet up alongside a recent Google screenshot.
He posted about it on mastodon 7 days ago, so I don’t think it’s an old tweet. Maybe his personal website is just out of date? https://social.coop/@scottjenson/112468182058087636
Google AI search is certainly good for memes
vs Andi AI
