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    I just found out the lady who cuts my dogs hair is a groomer. You just never know who you’re dealing with I guess.

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      :D*

      *emoticon used because the joke is funny NOT because of the implications of what the joke meant. Results may vary restrictions apply call your lawyer before making bold statements have a nice day

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    I’ll be the first to admit that there is a huge overlap between evangelicals (who pushed this initiative) and racist/fascist pieces of shit - but the ten commandments in and of themselves have no link to nazi-ism. :p

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      I generally consider the (non-theist) Commandments to generally be generally good rules to live by.

      I have to say the non-theist rules because several of them are about God and religion… Like, having no other gods before [him], not taking the Lord’s name in vain, the whole idols thing…

      If you take all that theist stuff out, you basically get: don’t lie, steal, cheat, or kill, don’t covet others stuff, and respect your mother and father.

      Pretty decent rules overall. At the very least, a good starting point.

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        Except it will depend on interpretation, and the “thou shall not desire” parts will be used to justify anti-communist paranoia.

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          Yeah, those are always on shaky ground with me.

          It’s not just control over your actions at that point, it’s control over thoughts, and you can’t really police thoughts.

          Plus there’s intrusive thoughts that we can’t really control. Things that just pop into our heads. Stuff we wouldn’t actually ever do, but the thought occurs to you anyways.

          At the height of my depression from burnout, my brain was concocting inventive ways to take myself out. These were undesirable and unwanted thoughts. It usually happened when I was driving around, looking for a tree large enough that if I hit it head on fast enough, I’d be certain to perish. I could not stop thinking these things.

          I got help and I’ve been in a much better place since then. The ideations have stopped. I recognized something needed to change because I didn’t want to think those things.

          However, this is a pretty good example of the intrusive thoughts we cannot control that we probably shouldn’t encourage. My environment caused me to get so stressed and burned out, which led to such a profound depression that I couldn’t stop such things from going through my mind. We all have those intrusive thoughts and policing them is basically impossible. Having any rules to that effect is nonsense, in the same way that we don’t have rules to stop people from being offended.

          Utter nonsense.

          This is why I assert that the commandments are a good starting point. Not the end goal. There’s some good guidelines in there, but they’re hardly the final ruleset that you should adhere to.

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      Forcing them into schools despite everyone’s First Amendment rights is absolutely Christofascism which people (correctly) call Naziism as an allegory.

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        Words have meaning. And while it is absolutely and fundamentally wrong to impose religious bullshit on the education system (or anyone, really), no, you are moving the goal posts: The ten commandments have nothing to do with Nazis. You arguing against evangelical fundamentalists doing whatever has nothing to do whatsoever with my previous comment,

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          You are trying to pretend there is no context involved. You are the one inventing a different scenario than what is pictured so you can feel better about whatever it is that’s got you down.

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      You’ve got racist/fascist pieces of shit who aren’t nazis? What are they, lazy? 😄

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    Copy/Paste of an actual message I sent to my friend earlier today:

    “You know if chemicals in rainwater were actually making frogs homosexual my family wouldn’t have such a problem every year with tadpoles in our swimming pool cover muck lol”

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      Because it’s not in rainwater, it’s in runoff from cities and dairy farms. The chemicals in question are basically synthetic estrogens and their metabolites and frogs are just more sensitive to those in the environment than mammals.

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          I’m not sure if what this person said is correct, but I can corroborate that there is some distant distant nugget of truth behind ‘the guvments makin da frogs gay!!’ that is actually an argument for better environmental protections

          At the same time, Alex Jones has made a lot of women turn gay I’m sure and there’s no one investigating that …

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          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4586825/

          Frogs and other amphibians are actually incredibly sensitive to all manner of chemicals. Heavy metals, trace pharmaceutical contamination in human wastewater… They basically breathe water through their very thin skin and have delicate tissues overall. They provide unique issues for conservationists because they are usually the first water related species to collapse.

          Humans have a history of being able to tolerate years and years of direct contact with arsenic, lead and various toxins. Your basic oil paint set from before 1950’s has a lifetimes worth of a modern person’s regular exposure. Frogs are a poor indicator of how humans react to anything.

          Plant based estrogens don’t impact humans much. They do sheep… But only because they have four stomachs and can actually sort of process them. In humans they just slip through the system mostly untouched.

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              I’m fond of this one in particular because “They’re putting chemicals in the water that turn the frogs gay!” is both one of the craziest sounding things Alex Jones has said, one that was literally memed on for years as THE example of how nuts he is and also one that’s technically true.

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            So sensitive in fact that a really common type of pregnancy test basically involved exposing a particular type of frog to human female urine. The frog being so sensitive to the presence of certain hormones would begin to ovulate if the urine sample was from a pregnant woman.

            Really interesting but a bit of a shit lot in life for the frog!

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              To be fair that’s an improvement over the previous test since you could reuse the frogs while you had to kill the rabbit. Even older ones involved peeing on grain. We’ve known that there was something different about the urine of women when they are pregnant for a shockingly long time, but couldn’t explain exactly what in any real detail until fairly recently.

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                I didn’t know about the grain or rabbit tests. At least the rabbits got off the hook when the frogs presented themselves as a better option, I suppose.

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    That’s not true, I actually am trying to turn your kids gay because I know it makes you mad.

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    Source: Wikipedia

    Maybe tell these groomers that Zionism and White supremacy have broken every commandment except for commandment 1 (and one could argue the Trinity and atheism breaks that commandment depending on view of the debater).

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    Actually it’s not turning them gay, it’s turning them into transgender Nazis, which is a word soup I didn’t think I’d ever say in my life.

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        And I’m pretty sure that the people pushing for that don’t follow all ten. Like “thou shalt not covet”. Have you seen American society? Damn thing is built on coveting.

        I doubt some of them have even read all ten.

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          Eleven. The Louisiana law, at least, specifies eleven commandments. They basically doubled-down on the coveting, ironically.

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          How is that different from putting pride flags in every classroom?

          1- this is not happening 2- flags are abstract representations, text of religious laws are specific (specific to a religion, which is another level of difference) 3- no government is mandating ‘pride flags’ 4- you already know all this, so the question is in bad faith

          Bad faith question about pride flags = trolling.

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            I’ve seen enough evidence to be convinced that it absolutely IS happening.

            Yes, there is no government mandate to do that, but it is happening nevertheless. There are tons of videos on YouTube of teachers explaining why it’s important to them. And while it’s true that LGBT doesn’t meet the definition of a traditional, organized religion, it does strike me as having quasi-religious character, as evidenced by the automatic assumption that anyone speaking out against it is acting in bad faith (i.e. committing blasphemy).

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              I think the word you’re looking for is culture. You know, the thing where people share ideas and traditions as a group.

              And comparing symbols of individual acceptance that certain people are OK to exist with government mandated displays of religion mandated rules seems strange. Almost “both sides.” Almost bad faith.

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                Okay, culture works. But it nevertheless strikes me as odd that you keep using the word “bad faith”, because it implies that there IS a component of faith involved which you are accusing me of being in violation of. Hence I am going to maintain my position that LGBT has at least a quasi-religious character.

                Also, I can’t help but notice that by saying “certain people are OK to exist”, you are elevating their right to exist over that of everyone else, i.e. you are creating in- and outgroups, those whose rights are worth protecting and those whose aren’t — something the Nazis knew a thing or two about.

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                  Dude your mental gymnastics game is on point. You practicing for your fox news interview? Like you know words can have multiple definitions right? Bad faith has nothing to do with religion and you know that. Also to say that a historically persecuted group trying to be “ok to exist” somehow degrades others rights is complete bullshit. Explain how. You proposed the idea I want you to explain how someone’s right to exist peacefully somehow takes away from someone else’s right. I’ll wait. 🙄

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                  Paragraph 1: “bad faith” is arguing or acting in an intellectually dishonest way. Like if I were to say this paragraph was written in bad faith, I might accuse you of knowing the term has nothing to do with religion yet still trying to shoehorn it into this whole “religion of LGBT” thing you have going.

                  Paragraph 2: wat

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                  LGBT rights are human rights. If by “has a quasi-religious character” you mean that it is ideologically derived, then sure. Human rights are normative ideology. But to say that the idea of individual liberty and human rights are ideologically equivalent to watery tarts handing out swords, is to demonstrate an extremely profound ignorance of moral philosophy.

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          I’m assuming that you are actually asking this sincerely.

          A pride flag is a symbol of acceptance. It’s saying that it’s okay to be gay. It’s not saying you have to be gay, it’s not saying you have to like that people are gay, just that it’s okay to be gay.

          The ten commandments are rules. It’s not a message saying that it’s okay to be Christian, it’s saying that everyone must follow these rules.

          The second one is authoritarian. It is restricting everybody, even those outside the group who created it. The first one is not authoritarian. Not giving orders to anybody, and not restricting people outside the group that created it.

          I hope that actually answers the question.

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            A pride flag is a symbol of acceptance. It’s saying that it’s okay to be gay. It’s not saying you have to be gay, it’s not saying you have to like that people are gay, just that it’s okay to be gay.

            Well, in the same way you could say that the Ten Commandments are just a symbol of respect. You don’t have to like them, you don’t even have to follow them, but it would be nicer if you did.

            The first one is not authoritarian. Not giving orders to anybody, and not restricting people outside the group that created it.

            Try seeing what happens when someone dares to remove the flag, or even just says in its presence that they don’t like gay people. I bet you the authoritarianism is going to show up real quick.

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              You mean see what happens when someone dares to remove the symbol of acceptance of an entire group?

              It is like removing a sign that says “everybody welcome”. You do that because you think some people are not welcome.

              What do you expect to happen?

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                Ah, the old paradox of tolerance strikes again.

                Your comparison is invalid because clearly, the rainbow flag does NOT mean “everybody is welcome”. It means “everybody who agrees with us about who is welcome is welcome”.

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                  Bro fr doesn’t even understand the point of the “paradox of tolerance” and thinks it’s a weapon in this argument lmao

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              Again, I’m going to assume you’re being serious here and respond as if it’s a real conversation.

              You say that the ten commandments are a sign of respect. A respect for whom or what?

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                Again, I’m going to assume you’re being serious here and respond as if it’s a real conversation.

                I appreciate that, and I will do my best to honor that.

                You say that the ten commandments are a sign of respect. A respect for whom or what?

                They’re a sign of respect for and recognition of the essential humanity of others. No one likes to be lied to, stolen from, murdered, or envied. There is no exception made for rich and powerful people, nor for different races, creeds, or sexual orientations.

                Yes, you can make the case that they also proscribe a requirement to believe in the Christian God, in which case I would say that’s no different than arguing that the pride flag is not saying that you have to be gay.

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                  So the pride flag is necessary because, historically and very recently, non-straight people have been oppressed. Oppressed so badly that many kill themselves because of how they’re treated. It is a travesty that we treat other Americans this way just because they’re different.

                  Christians do not suffer like that. It’s literally impossible for Christians to suffer like that, as they make up the vast majority of the country. No one can possibly oppress a majority. Hurt their feelings, maybe, but not oppress.

                  I think if we are putting up religious tenets as a way of showing respect, we should put up the tenets of a religion that is actually oppressed in this country. One that is treated with hostility, and whose members are hated for no reason other than their beliefs. That would show them that we’re an accepting country, who actually follow Jesus’ values of loving our neighbors.

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          The impulse behind one act is inclusive, welcoming persecuted minorities. This is fundamentally egalitarian and strengthens society.

          The other is intended as part of a drive for cultural hegemony where a specific ingroup is underlined as sovereign. A hierarchial society of a majority of innate winners and, importantly, subgoups of losers/outsiders (to be feared/hated) is the backbone of fascism.

          Of course, a single piece of straw will not break society’s back and manifest fascism on its own but pressure towards it is created by an aggregation of such straw.

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            Correct me if I’m wrong, but there’s nothing in the Ten Commandments that is inherently unegalitarian.

            There is no commandment that says “thou shalt steal from minorities” or “thou shalt give preferred treatment to the rich and powerful”. It does not create any in- or outgroups either — everyone is considered worthy of the same protection, and I don’t think I need to explain how not stealing, not killing, not lying, and not being envious of others strengthens society.

            It seems to me that you are projecting an awful lot onto this text that isn’t actually there.

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              The first rule is that you literally can not have any god except for the Christian one.

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                Okay, how about Jesus’s rendition of the commandments as found in Matthew 19:18 (which basically drops the first three, and replaces the last two with “love your neighbor”)?

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              The Bible and it’s mostly commendable teachings are an uncritically examined votive for a cargo cult that is being weaponised against America’s democracy. What the ten commandments are, or are not, is immaterial. The critical lesson is the hegemony of Christians over non-Christians and, most importantly, distilled to the naturalness/righteousness of hegemony/hierarchy.

              It is a thin entering wedge that is intended to open up the possibility of inculcating children with divisive conceptions and undermining critical thinking.

              Yes the ten commandments could be put up on the wall with egalitarian intentions but that is implicitly not the case with the MAGA movement.

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            What other context is there? It’s literally implying that hanging up a copy of the Ten Commandments will groom children into becoming Nazis.

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              The context, my dear daft friend, is forcing religion onto children in public, tax payer funded, schools.

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                Okay, how about a set of non-religious rules of ethics, or at least something all major religious groups can agree upon?

                Don’t steal, don’t lie, don’t murder/use violence, don’t make any unwanted sexual advances, those seem general enough that everyone should be able to agree, no?

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      You think that the statement “what LGBTQ+ says about x” is a comment that is possible to make sense?

      “LGBTQ+” is not an organization. It’s not a religion or a creed. It doesn’t “say” anything - and, in fact, isn’t even an “it” in the context you’re using!

      It’s a term for a group of people that have nothing to do with each other, other than some shared traits. In your comment, replace “LGBTQ+” with another word for a group of unrelated humans. “Blondes,” maybe, or “women,” “men,” “dark skinned folk,” “humans,” etc. You can’t put something like “Americans” or “Christians” in that sentence, because those are too specific.

      Can you see the problem now?

      Is it fair to post a video of some random dude saying something stupid, and then say, “I have proof that men believe X”?

      No, because “men” don’t share a creed.

      LGBTQ folk also don’t share a creed. We’re just people.

      And I absolutely believe you’d hear some folks joking around about “coming for their children.” A friend of mine jokes about the gay agenda all the time. Her gay agenda is “going to the grocery store to get milk.” But someone could get a clip of her saying that she’s got a gay agenda, easily.

      And thing is, even if that video happened to be about some folks who weren’t joking - it doesn’t mean anything! Just because someone found some random assholes at pride doesn’t mean that everyone who’s LGBTQ+ has an agenda.

      I’m probably wasting my time, I know, but I figured I’d put it out there just in case you are honestly misunderstanding the situation. Here’s hoping.

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        I’m probably wasting my time

        I’m going to go ahead and say yeah. I don’t think there’s any getting through to that dunce

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        And remember, it only takes one passing “gay agenda” joke to paint every noncis/nothet person on the planet as a p@do, but somebody CAN’T be a Nazi unless they handwrite mein kampf in triplicate with an addendum about how handsome Hitler is then get it notarized in Germany.

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        And I absolutely believe you’d hear some folks joking around about “coming for their children.”

        I strongly suspect if he ever responded with a source it would involve a carefully trimmed clip from that SF gay men’s chorus piece that caused a stir a while back, found a link for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArOQF4kadHA

        An entire piece built around the lines “we’ll convert your children” and “we’re coming for your children” that’s pretty prone to having unfortunate clips cut from it to scare right wingers.

        “LGBTQ+” is not an organization. It’s not a religion or a creed. It doesn’t “say” anything - and, in fact, isn’t even an “it” in the context you’re using!

        It’s a term for a group of people that have nothing to do with each other, other than some shared traits. In your comment, replace “LGBTQ+” with another word for a group of unrelated humans. “Blondes,” maybe, or “women,” “men,” “dark skinned folk,” “humans,” etc. You can’t put something like “Americans” or “Christians” in that sentence, because those are too specific.

        Can you see the problem now?

        Except in that case you can’t exclude anyone from “the LGBTQ+ community” provided they are not straight or not cis. See people talking about Milo Yian-etc back in 2014-2020, or people’s reaction to radqueer shit.

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        To be clear, it is not a person claiming that this is the agenda. Rather it is members of the LGBTQ+ community, in their own words, making the statement. One video is a song by a group of gay men, the other is a chant by a group of men and women. Directly from their mouths, no way to take it out of context.

        These were two videos shown in multiple Mosques around the SE Michigan region, this is how I learned about it.

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      what LGBTQ+ says about children

      Is this where you link to a string of grainy deep fried anonymous Twitter/Reddit ForwardsFromGrandma posts about a D-List celebrity from the 1970s singing “I’m going to fuck the straight out of you” in a thrash metal music video?

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        No… lmao wat. One was a group of men singing about grooming our children. The other is during a pride parade, where the group walking through I believe is a park is chanting about how they’re coming for our children.

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          That’s suitably vague, poorly sourced, and sinister sounding to make me clutch my pearls in panic.

          Have you considered submitting your lived experience to the Daily Wire or perhaps your local conservative state legislator?

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          LGBT+ people are people. That means they run the full gamut that you see in people who aren’t LGBT+. The difference is in sexuality and/or gender. Gay people like men, bi people like both, lesbians like women, trans people have a gender and biological sex that don’t line up. Other than that, they value and dislike similar things to everyone else.

          They feel similarly about children as anyone else. That’s not to say that every one of them feels the exact same way about it, but that a similar portion of them are protective, nurturing, neutral, avoidant, or predatory towards children as is the general public.

          They also use humour to ridicule the absurd, which would apply to the idea that LGBT+ people have a collective agenda when it comes to kids (or anything that isn’t reducing dangers to and increasing acceptance of people who are like them or otherwise marginalized for their sexuality or gender, though even that doesn’t apply universally).

          You’re getting a negative response to your comments because the conclusion you draw from them doesn’t make logical sense. The most that they could show is that the group of individuals shown in the video has intents like that. My first guess, based on your description, is that they are trolling people who believe in the gay agenda. Second guess would be it’s actually people who hate gays pretending to be them to say this and get more people to hate them. Third guess would be that some LGBT+ pedophiles were emboldened by their own mistaken ideas of what pride is and thought they could be open about something that should get some eyes on them.

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              IMO you should post the videos. The context might make which case it is clearer, or at least rule out or confirm the “they are making fun of people who believe this” possibility.

              The whole thing is just too absurd to do anything other than not take it seriously. Like I’m skeptical of pretty much everything you said there other than the drag queen part (though are schools hiring them or are some volunteering to do a reading thing for kids?).

              Do you have any examples of that homosexual erotica in school libraries? That statement about teachers teaching kids things that have nothing to do with actual education is very broad and vague, but some examples would also be helpful, along with being more specific since that statement would include random trivia a teacher might mention for fun and parts of the curriculum that have debatable usefulness (like cursive writing), which I don’t think you’re talking about.

              And drag queens are just men in dresses or other women’s clothing. The purpose of their reading thing is for them to provide a good service for children to specifically show that they aren’t evil delinquents who will predate children at any opportunity.

              I wish it was that easy to protect children from predators, just picking some bad groups of others and putting a fence between them and our children. But just like a man wearing a dress or being interested in other males doesn’t imply they will be interested in children, a man not wearing a dress or being interested in other males doesn’t imply that they aren’t interested in children.

              The reality is that we need to pay attention and communicate with our kids, and most importantly educate them about sexual stuff so that they can know to tell us if something does happen to them. Don’t you see that keeping them ignorant about all this stuff means that it leaves room for a groomer or molester to “educate” them? That treating homosexuality the same as actual sexual crimes when it’s not a choice could mean some gay people will decide it’s no big deal to predate children since they are already “doing evil” just by being gay?

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                  That first one is trolling. And you might be right about it not being smart to goad on those who fear them as an existential threat, but sometimes people just get to the point where they don’t care about the consequences and just want to give some of the negative feelings they’ve felt back to some of those who gave them to them.

                  For the second one, did you listen to the song after the “we’re going to convert your kids” bit? Because they aren’t talking about converting anyone gay but converting them to not be hateful about shit that isn’t worth being hateful about.

                  On that note, I don’t understand how any straight person can even believe that converting people gay is a thing. There’s nothing anyone could say or do that would make men sexually interesting to me. There is no temptation I have to fight, even though I think it’s ok to be gay and that it would double my pool of potential sexual partners.

                  For the third one, I do struggle with listening to choirs, but the parts that I did catch sounded more like “your children aren’t your property whose thoughts and feelings you should control if they don’t line up with yours” than a “those aren’t your kids, they are ours”. The “through you, not from you” bit did sound more religious (personally, I’d go for more of a “from you but once separated, they are separate”). But I only listened to half of it and was distracted by the comments for part of that so maybe someone else can comment more on that last one.

                  I hope you aren’t banned for any of this conversation. For what it’s worth, you do seem more genuine about this than most who come to places that are as hostile to your beliefs as this place is. And I don’t think just censoring the other side does anything but polarize anyone’s positions.

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                  When you talk to people, or watch movies, do you have a difficult time understanding what they’re talking about ?

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              When I was in high school we had this whole chant about babies and trash compactors and other edgy shit we thought was the funniest thing. Crazily enough… none of us ever harmed a kid and if anyone would have actually put a baby in harms way where we could see we would have been traumatized.

              Ease off the pearls there. A lot of Queer folks make fun of the rhetoric that Conservatives sling around about being bogeymen after kids , particularly during Pride. A rowdy bunch of party people probably high as kites being dumb and edgy isn’t news in most places. Treating the matter as though every single one of us has to be paragons of proper behaviour without exception every moment isn’t exactly a bar any group of people is going to meet. Moreover why should everyone have to be subject to group punishment for an individual’s transgression? If a boss punished everyone at your workplace because one person came in late how would you react?

              A lot of the sentiments inside the community are that it doesn’t matter how often we treat everything seriously, speak eloquently or point to actual studies and literature about how we’re just people who are underserved by beaurcratic structures, children are not harmed by association and we are not monsters… All it takes is a couple of people being silly once and suddenly every nasty bigoted fear is confirmed beyond shadow of a doubt… So why bother? It’s an impossible standard.

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      Other then LGBTQ+ not being a monolith? You can find any crazy opinion online. Difference is, one group is large enough to push to have the ten commandants hung in public school classrooms and the other is a fringe of a minority.

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      Yes please provide videos. You can dm me if you’re scared of catching a ban.