WHAT

  • Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.

TRUMPS STATEMENT

“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR

  • gunman is dead
  • Trump “is fine”
  • one attendee is dead
  • another attendee is in critical condition

News Sources

  • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I didn’t need this fucking stress on top of everything else. I only hope that the poll bump he’ll get for this is short-lived.

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      5 months ago

      He is going to win. We’ve already been over this. Maybe now you can start the process of coming to terms with what that actually means.

        • dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          I can appreciate where !Riccosuave@lemmy.world is coming from.

          I personally feel that 2008 was the tipping point for a lot of people and we’ve been reeling from it ever since.

          While things may have been bad before, it really does feel like the intensity has increased dramatically ever since Trump was first elected. These people have become emboldened, and no longer keeping themselves in check. Any sense of decorum and decency are things of the past.

          You are welcome to dismiss me as nothing more than an over dramatic doomer, but I have a feeling I’m not the only one who feels this way. It’s not about being right or wrong. It’s about being overwhelmed and mentally drained about being able to do anything positive about it.

          Anecdotally, I would guess this is part of their motivation for the attempted assassination. They were likely so overwhelmed that they felt the only solution was to try to kill Trump.

          And if that’s even remotely true, that’s a fault of society as a whole as much as it is the shooter’s fault.

          One way or the other, we are at a pivotal moment in American history; and I’m not just being dramatic. There is a lot on the line for both sides no matter who wins in November.

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          5 months ago

          My analysis isn’t based on extra-sensory perception. I am able to look at the facts as they are presented from a rational, unemotional perspective. It is how I knew Hillary was going to lose in 2016, and it is how I know Biden is going to lose in 2024.

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            5 months ago

            There are no facts presented to you now that can tell you definitively what will happen in November.

            You being correct one time does not make you correct this time.

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                No we won’t, because all you are doing is calling heads or tails. You have a 1:2 chance of being right regardless of why you are making your prediction.

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                  Look honestly at the historical context and externalities of the moment you are in, and tell me you think it is a coin toss.

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            5 months ago

            Lol…it sounds like you’re saying that you know all of the answers because you don’t use your emotions when you think…haha

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            5 months ago

            Your cognitive dissonance is strong,

            … do you even know what that term means?

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              Yes, I do. Which is precisely how I know you are engaged in that behavior now. It is a very hard thing to accept that you are living in a country that is going to usher in fascism with thunderous applause. But regardless of how you feel about it, that is what is happening before your very eyes. It is important to be objective about that so you are able to evaluate what you can do to fight back once that becomes necessary.

              • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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                5 months ago

                . It is a very hard thing to accept that you are living in a country that is going to usher in fascism with thunderous applause.

                Okay, so you don’t actually know, you just think it means ‘not accepting (what you see as) reality’. Thanks for confirming.

                Cognitive dissonance is described as the mental disturbance people feel when their beliefs and actions are inconsistent and contradictory

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                  Here, I’ll give you an example you can perhaps identify with. You spent multiple comments strawmaning my arguments, putting words in my mouth, and gaslighting me for saying Biden had absolutely no chance of victory two days ago.

                  You then attempted to suggest that I did not care about political violence, and that I was uneducated about important modern historical events in an attempt to delegitimize my points about removing Biden as the nominee.

                  This is you today:

                  • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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                    5 months ago

                    This might be shocking to you, but when people comment on a vital event, it is usually because the vital event has caused some form of important change worth discussing. Radical, I know. But nice projection.

            • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldM
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              5 months ago

              The comment in question contained a personal insult against another user and was removed for incivility. The mod log is public.

              Please don’t repost removed comments. You can link to the comment or mod log if you have questions about a particular moderation action. All decisions may be appealed by DMing a mod for additional review.

                • gedaliyah@lemmy.worldM
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                  I am not sure that you can link to an individual comment, but you can link to the community mod log or the user mod log depending on the circumstance. Or you can link to the individual comment in the thread, even if it has been removed.

                  It is preferred to reach out to a moderator(s) by direct message, in which case you could include a screen image of the mod log along with your question.

                  I understand why one may have an interest in asking questions publicly, although it makes is very difficult for mods to respond (unless you tag us). If you are interesting in getting a response, this is perhaps the least efficient way. We are assured to see report, and likely to see a DM in a much more reasonable time.

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                5 months ago

                Also, I am not really seeing a personal insult? Criticism of personal dissonance, yeah, but is that an insult?

            • Riccosuave@lemmy.world
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              I believe the mods were attempting to stop PugJesus and I from engaging in a slap fight, but you see how well that worked out.

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        This event just shows that anything can happen at any moment. Nothing is a sure thing. Not a Trump win, not a Biden win, and not a win for any other candidate who may run.