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    In it’s ‘war against Hamas’ Israel has now bombed 3 countries that has no Hamas

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        How is a state that’s largely funded by another state not a proxy for the bigger state? It’s not a Israel Iran proxy war. It’s a us Iran proxy war

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          Iran has been supplying the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas with munitions, intel, and training to support attacks on Israel.

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              … Israel will sink our ships if they find them inconvenient.

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                Perhaps, but they’d do it with missiles that we designed and gave them. – this is the problem.

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                They absolutely will. On the other hand the Houthis attacked a Russian ship the other day so same I guess.

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              Israel is a sovereign nation. According to international law, they are held responsible for their actions. The same law does not apply to independent rebel groups, putting the responsibility on Iran.

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                If Israel can declare itself a sovereign nation on another peoples land there is no reason rebel groups cannot call themselves legitimate rulers. Anyone can call themselves anything.

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            Most of their money and support is coming through Lebanon. And the Moussad is injecting massive ammounts of graft into the Lebanese government in order to destabilize it.

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              Yeah Russia does this trick. Ukraine is still funding the war against itself but traitors are able to operate within the state.

              This shit is cancer

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      Possibly because this is retaliation for drone strikes and not part of the “war against Hamas.”

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      People have been warning from day 1 about the possibility of a regional escalation.

      Apparently you cannot spend months acting in a way that neighboors who already don’t like you find morally reprehensible without some of those neighbors inserting themselves into the conflict.

      The real question is how long can Iran avoid getting dragged into that. And if Iran gets involved directly, will we be able to contain this to a regional war, or will this small decades old conflict between parties whose total population is only about 12 million become the trigger for world war 3.

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        It’s less the people and more the trade routes and resources. Some would argue the most important in the world

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        God I hope so. I had a dream once that the entirety of the land between the black sea and the gulf of aden was glassed smooth, and finally the world was at peace.

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      3?

      You forgot one at least. Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Yemen. Maybe you can find the common denominator within these 4.

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      Anecdotally, I lived in Sanaa for a while as a kid in the '80’s, and one of my enduring memories is seeing kids in the street with AK’s. Other highlights included being chased up a pile of concrete and rebar by a pack of wild dogs, and riding in a helicopter that they used in one of the Rambo movies (the Afghanistan one, I think).

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          Hey, I appreciate the sentiment. I didn’t really think any of that was trauma-inducing—except the dogs, but a friendly labrador helped me get over that a year or two later. Luckily, I’ve stocked up on all kinds of trauma since then! These are just colorful childhood memories.

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    To paraphrase: “The Houthis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everybody else and nobody was going to bomb them.”

    Maybe don’t bomb people, and, failing that, don’t be surprised when they bomb you back.

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        Funnier still how the headlines on certain publications work. Houthis bomb Israel, Israel bombs them back; headline is “Israel bombs Yemen in Escalation with Houthis”.

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      Yes, fuck them. They should let peaceful Houtis keep bombing ships and innocent people. Poor terrorists, can’t even terror in peace these days.

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        Poor Waffen IDF can’t do genocide with zero consequences?

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    hopefully they try to open a third front with Lebanon and seal the deal on the end of their apartheid settler project 🙏

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    Is this still called self defence? Surely people can see through this. No?

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    Yes, Israel escalated this. When they bomb innocent trade ships, that’s fine, that’s not escalation that’s just tuesday and they are being cute.

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    REAL Jews LOVE War and Death and Bombs!

    -Evangelical Republicans who are also NOT Snowflakes!

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    Some of these comments are weird.

    The Houthis have been keeping up their blockade for 8 months and have already been bombed by US coalition forces multiple times.

    I don’t think they are at all surprised aside from the fact that it took Israel this long to do the exact same thing.

    I keep seeing lots of “find out phase” comments on other threads which doesn’t make any sense because they’ve been effectively at war for years on end, and definitely with Israel for 8 months.

    The more interesting notion is that Israel also probably bombed some residential areas unlike the US who were trying to destroy missile launch sites to end the blockade.

    Unsure because it was an oil depot.

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    For the people who criticize fellow arabs don’t care about palestinians.