• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Well, there is a statistical association between being born with a penis and being physically strong, although obviously it doesn’t apply to everyone. The power tool things is just a total invention of society though.

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      3 months ago

      yeah comparing that to astrology is a bit much. i get it, you can’t know for sure what gender a person is going to be, but it’s still likely to coincide with their sex, mostly through societal factors anyway.

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        3 months ago

        That’s not a comparison, it’s an equation. A comparison identifies a difference. An equation asserts similarity.

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          3 months ago

          I think you mean it’s a metaphor. An equation is a mathematical thing and doesn’t make sense in discourse, unless you mean equivalents but that also doesn’t make sense in the context.

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            3 months ago

            Equations exist in discourse. Watch, I’ll make an equation, which is to say I’ll equate two things:

            Childish Gambino is Donald Glover.

            Boom. That’s an equation. I equated Childish Gambino with Donald Glover. I didn’t compare them, because I didn’t say they’re different. I said they’re the same, which is equating them.

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      3 months ago

      power tool things is just a total invention of society

      Which is why I don’t understand people who need to change themselves physically to conform to society’s expectations.

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        3 months ago

        They have been told all their lives “you are expected to behave this way! The way you want to behave is only acceptable for them!” It’s not really that surprising.
        If we could purge the sexist tropes from society that would probably do wonders for gender dysphoria.

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          3 months ago

          I wonder how much is dysphoria and how much is dysmorphia.

          I don’t think I care much about what’s in my pants, but I do care that other people want me to act a certain way because of that.

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      3 months ago

      Right, much like how astrologists will tell you there’s an association between being born under [astrological sign] and having [personality trait]. It doesn’t apply to everyone

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      3 months ago

      All identity is a societal invention. That’s the purpose of identity, it’s for other people’s perspectives and what they think. It’s irrelevant otherwise, because what else needs to identify your gender? A dog? A stone? The clouds? And why gender of all things?

      I’m a man. Apart from the basics, like a penis, I couldn’t really tell you what “feeling like a man” actually is. Everything beyond the biological category is just made up stereotypes and don’t serve any actual purpose. But for some people, they live by societal stereotypes, so if they don’t like them, they will change their identity to fit into new ones. It’s not at all necessary, but that’s the power of worrying how others see you and why identities exist.

      But at the end of the day, we’re all just brains animating a corpse. So go wear a dress! They’re comfy! More “men” should; they’re missing out.