• CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world
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    Technically it was a train, and they were experiencing a transcendent connection across time with their older selves, in a deliberately unsettling and transgressive scene meant to evoke the rawness of adolescence being laid bare before the worst cosmic horror – an eldritch carrion-eater who feeds on destroying the souls of children – as a way of reclaiming strength from vulnerability. At any rate, depiction is not endorsement.

    But yes, considering how many actual adults misinterpret and mischaracterize that scene, I don’t recommend that particular book to children – not because they’ll be damaged by it, but because they won’t have the wisdom of age to understand it.

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      I read IT in the 8th grade and I didn’t really get the whole “transgressive scene meant to evoke the rawness of adolescence being laid bare before the worst cosmic horror” part, but I did understand that they were doing it as a way to ‘ground’ themselves to reality. And as a 13 year old boy, I thought it was kinda hot.

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        I always read it more acting as a final severing of their childhood to protect against It as it preferred to eat children. Not to mention as a more substantial blood pact as part of the ritual of chud to become metaphorically one being in the cosmic fight

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      Yeah. It was horrible but literally “need to grow up fast” as a kind of pseudo protection from the demon that is pennywise.

      The entire book is a series of horrors. Another story that hits just as hard but in a different way is Needful Things. Definitely an apt metaphor for how people can be cajoled and manipulated into doing heinous things.

      It’s definitely messed up just like the old vampire in the body of a 13 year old in the Diaries of a Vampire series.

      It’s fair to have an issue with it but what about all the other books?

      I bet I can guess what they don’t like about them and that isn’t it

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      Technically, it was Stephen King being high out of his mind on cocaine and booze. He’ll be the first to admit it.

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        Did he write It during his cocaine years? I know Cujo, Tommyknockers, and Maximum Overdrive were

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          The real turning point in the non cocaine years is Dreamcatcher. And that was morphine.

          Which really explains Dreamcatcher.

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          Definitely. I’ve even read about him talking about that specific scene in It in the context of his addictions.