I wish the fediverse would just stick to one set of jargon, and everybody uses the same terms to mean the same thing. Even “instances” should just be called “servers”. That’s all it is. This server talks to that servers, and information is exchanged.
So, if I understand this right, “magazines” on Mbin are the same as “communities” on Lemmy, are the same as subreddits on reddit. Three names to mean the same thing.
And a “Thread” is just a post. Like I’m making a post right now on Lemmy. If I did this on Mbin it would be called a “Thread”.
But then I see there’s also “comments” which is self explanitory (I hope…)
And there’s also “Posts”. But if Threads are posts, then what are Posts?
QUIT FUCKING AROUND WITH TERMS, FEDIVERSE! LETS ALL JUST KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!!!
…I keep thinking I have things figured out, until someone says “yeah, but have you tried this?” and then I look into it, and I’m confused again. Arg!
I’m guessing it’s an artifact of them supporting both platforms like Lemmy (who’s users make Threads and Comments in Magazines) and platforms like Mastodon (who’s users make Posts and Replies in Microblogs).
If you don’t like that, you’re really not going to like what they call downvotes …
If you don’t like that, you’re really not going to like what they call downvotes …
Don’t leave us hanging like that!
They call them ‘reduces’
Well you were right. That definitely rubs the wrong way lol.
Thank you!
Ew.
WHO thought that was the right term??? Like was some guy using a yellow notepad and putting the bad ideas on the right, and the good ideas on the left, and “reduces” is the one that they landed on??? How bad were the other options???
The original Kbin dev is Polish, so English is likely a second language for him. Also, it’s still very early in development, so a lot of terminology put in use are likely placeholders until something more natural-sounding could be finalized.
Also, it is inspired by a Polish service, Wykop which developed its specific language
I guess part of it is that each platform wants to be specific to the purpose of its own network/platform. Mastodon as a Twitter/Tumblr like microblog site, PixelFed like Instagram, Friendica like Facebook, so on and so forth. Align all terminology to one set of terms I think takes away from the uniqueness of each platform. If you want the truly neutral default cross-Fediverse term, then just use the one from the ActivityPub spec. That pleases every Fediverse platform equally, i.e. not at all.
Users = Actors. Upvote/Favourite/React = Like. Post/Note/Toot/Thread = Object. Happy? Didn’t think so.
When one network interacts on another, the target will do its best to translate your actions into the way it does things. That’s why Link posts from Mastodon appear so wonky in Lemmy, and you can only reply to Mastodon users who posted in a Lemmy community.
I agree. Except boosts. That should die and up/downvotes should just be the thing driving aggregation. Nobody boosts enough to make a difference anyways and some apps just tie the boost button to the upvote button so the feature actually gets used as expected (if enabled). It’s already hard enough to get regular people onboard here, with all the instance and account confusion with hit or miss syncing options and instances disappearing sometimes.
I feel like your preference makes sense when aligned from the perspective of a conventional forum-like platform. However I’d argue that that’s missing a core part of what kbin is/was – and by extension what Mbin is – which is the microblog integration alongside the forum-like stuff. With that context in mind, boosts (or whatever term you want to use for “retweet”) make sense to integrate imo.
Whether or not you think Mbin should try to integrate the microblog side of things is of course a subjective - I personally think it’s a cool idea to try at least, but with how dominant lemmy has become it can be difficult to reconcile differences and incompatibilities between it and other software like Mbin.
I’m sad that this is the first I’m hearing of Mbin at all.
