As a medical user, I really hope she will stick to this if elected. Trump is doing more “leave it up to the states” bullshit except specifically for Florida and no other state.
I mean, this won Trudeau 3 elections, so I’d say it’s a worth it campaigning point.
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I should clarify to those non Canadians out there; Trudeau did legalize weed after the first election he won.
It’s just that it was such a popular move I believe it’s the reason he’s been around for so long. It bought a ton of good will with the public.
Yep. I mean, Harper was shit too and also did not legalize weed.
Best way to get the young male vote to be honest. Isn’t this part of what made Ron Paul popular?
In before it gets legalized federally and then some republican states start spouting states rights and continue to arrest people that are following the law.
That is actually the current argument being made for weed legalization. “This isn’t a federal issue, California has every right to make the consumption of canabis legal in their state!” Harris’ legalization would make it legal in states that do not have a set restriction, as well as allow federal employees, such as soldiers, to consume it in legal states.
You can already see this with legalization in Germany and right-wing controlled Bavaria. I am not sure right now how far they are going, but they are not happy with this and at least try to make consumption as uncomfortable as possible.
Been waiting a long time for this.
boy if i had rights and benefits for every right and benefit Joe Biden “said he backed”
Boy, if you had basic civics knowledge as to how a president in the executive branch cannot pass laws himself but requires the legislative branch (Congress) to pass said laws that he would back.
Actually the power of executive orders are very broad, and as of 2024, are beyond any limits of law. Official acts of a sitting president cannot be criminalized. He can absolutely order the FDA to immediately remove Marijuana from schedule 1 status, but he won’t. What carrot would Harris have to dangle in front of us at that point?
For context, yes, I’m a dem, and yes, I’m voting for Harris, but fuck me I’m tired of such transparent posturing.
If Biden turns the Oval Office into a grow room does that make it an official act?
Say what you will about the Republicans, at least they get results on their absurd culture war bullshit. Best the Dems can do for the left is ignore us completely and give us Tim Walz as a VP like we should be soooo fucking grateful
“Results”
I don’t think Tim Walz was chosen to attract left-wing voters. He’s not center left or far left.
I agree with you that the Democrats tend to ignore the left, and it’s incredible annoying, but at the same time in my opinion Harris is a better candidate than Hillary was. It’s a small improvement, but it’s an improvement. (Obviously this depends on your views on various issues, so you could disagree reasonably enough.)
I will be sad if this means weed is corporatized though
Do you think buying it from a street dealer isn’t corporatized? Cartels are basically just black market multinationals at this point. If anything, legalization would make it less corporate since you could grow it in your backyard.
It will seem more corporate once it’s legal, but that’s just because the business is being conducted in daylight.
Source: Canadian who grows a plant or 2 each summer
There’s an in-between you haven’t considered, which is my local mom and pop pot shop. Yes some of these dispensaries are corporations, eg Mr Nice Guy, but most are not able to be corporations due to issues with banking because it’s not legal at the US federal level. If it became legal at the federal level, then there wouldn’t be any barriers for Walmart or any other very very large corporation to take hold of the industry and capitalize on it.
As long as people are allowed to grow, I don’t give a crap about Walmart or any other company selling weed. It’s much easier to grow and process than tobacco, so there will always be a another market that offers quality.
Well, not everyone is a landowner or is allowed to grow a smelly weed plant in their apartment so
It’s a plant that grows in the ground, it’ll get about as corporatized as tomatoes. Meaning people will try, but they can’t really stop you from growing legal plants in your garden.
It’s really easy to grow great weed in your closet, if you’re not worried about getting busted it gets even easier and cheaper not having to go as hardcore on smell and security
Got a cheap LED board: 75
Got 4 bottles of nutrients that last me ~4 harvests: 75
Fabric pots: 15
Coco Coir (reusable and lasts a long ass time), enough for 20 pots: 30
Seeds: depends on your guy
So long as you water and react properly to any nutrient issues you encounter you’ll get something better than a dispensary will sell you 9/10, and if you were to sell your plants proceeds for bottom-shelf prices you’d still make your money back with profit
I FIM train and use a basic water/nutrient schedule and a timer to control my lights, get almost an oz a plant of absolute quality green damn near every time. I must emphasize, too: I’m a fucking idiot who barely knows what he’s doing, my brother is insane and gets RESULTS
How long does it take for it to grow? I want to get into it, I just want to make sure I can grow enough to supply my demands without having to wait on it to grow.
From seed to harvest it’s about 90 days, if you get an autoflowering Type it’ll likely tell you exactly how many days
From harvest to trim I do about a day, then 3 weeks to a month of drying, and then a month in a jar to stew before it’s “ready to go”
4-5 months depending on how hardcore you do the after-harvest stuff, basically. I keep 2 sets in rotation, when one goes to flower I plant another, basically
Tobacco Industry: “Am I a joke to you?”
I am confused, tobacco is legal to grow for your own use.
It is but it doesn’t stop a massive corporate industry from growing around it as the original comment implied would happen with cannabis.
I now see the angle you were taking in your comment.
I read it as no one can stop you from growing it,
And I believe you are saying corpos will mass commercialize it just.like tobacco.
Thanks!
Ah I see the confusion. I went back and edited my comment to hopefully make it more clear.
Not in Australia! You’ll get a bigger fine for growing tobacco than cannabis. Reason: the government is losing taxes on the tobacco.
Australia is a failed police state
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Good it needs to be done.
Biden went somewhere on this?
I just want Hemp producers to not have to jump through all the legal redtape… We need to make this an important crop again for the good of the planet.
TBF, “Leave it up to the states” in the context of recreational use is appropriate here. Extending that concept would necessarily include having extremely limited federal regulation, if any at all.
Medical use, in my opinion, should be federally protected, such that you can acquire medical use cannabis for a uniform set of medical purposes in all states.
100% disagree. First because it puts people in prison for spurious reasons and secondly because it’s a plant. You can literally just grow it in your back yard. And it will grow really easily. It doesn’t even take work.
You know what will totally fuck you up but is totally legal to own and grow and use? Salvia divinorum. You know what else? San Pedro cactus.
Even with shrooms, it’s legal to own the spores when you’re talking about psilocybin and Amanita Muscaria is 100% legal. It can literally kill you.
We don’t even need to go into tobacco.
How does any of that make sense?
You know what will totally fuck you up but is totally legal to own and grow and use? Salvia divinorum.
Salvia is fucking wild. I do not recommend it unless you want to lose your mind for ~10 minutes or so. Like, from sober to “holy shit I’m on the wheel of fortune right now” in an instant.
I only did it once. Apart from tasting absolutely horrible, the trip wasn’t even fun. I was laying on the ground and suddenly I was standing upright and was a cowboy leaning against the porch post of a ranch house. And then I was me again. What was the point?
To become a cowboy, very momentarily, pardner
But I didn’t want to be a cowboy. :(
Space cowboy? Spaced out cowboy?
Well… Some people call me the Space Cowboy…
Then again, some call me the gangster of love.
Some people call me Maurice and that’s weird because it’s just not my name.
While I complete and totally agree that it should be legalized, or at least federally rescheduled and completely decriminalized, I worry about what happens when it’s federally regulated and taxed.
If it is federally legalized and taxed, it will likely become the domain of the ATF, who will
take overcontinue kicking in doors and doing raids on anyone who is not a huge corporate grower. Marlboro has already trademarked Marlboro Greens and I’m sure every other tobacco giant has their branding ready.Leaving regulation and taxation to each state is probably better long term, otherwise it’s just going to be a corporate cash grab with established local growers and suppliers getting screwed.
Regardless, it should be completely legal to grow it in your back yard.
Oh I didn’t say it made sense, especially in comparison to other legally produced intoxicants. If things made sense, we wouldn’t have gestures widely.
But in the nonsensical paradigm, relegating the legal status of a recreational drug to the state level would be appropriate, and most certainly a step in the right direction. More to the point, I don’t see it being possible for the federal government to command nationwide legality of recreational cannabis. This is why I made a separate statement about medical use.
The federal government doesn’t need to command that though. They can say that it is federally legal but still allow individual states or smaller governmental divisions to make it illegal. That’s not how it should be, but that is how it works with alcohol, which is why there are dry counties and why Utah can regulate the amount of alcohol in its beer and wine.
That’s kind of what I was saying. Recreational cannabis would be appropriately handled just like that, while preserving the right of all Americans to receive certain kinds of medical care (Roe) should be federally guaranteed, regardless of what state you live in.
All these drugs you cite as negative examples have a really good safety profile. So no idea why you do that.
- I didn’t cite them as negative examples.
- Amanita muscaria can, as I said, kill you.
- Let’s see tobacco’s good safety profile.
I agree on tobacco, maybe some DIY type of vaping is OK.
The rest is fine and if you consume any of these plants like fly agaric then you just have to know what you are doing.
Compared to alcohol anamita muscaria may have a better profile.
I mean I would appreciate it if it were federally legal. I live in a state where its legal but I’m employed by the federal government so I can’t use it without putting my job at risk.
I remember Biden running on a promise to federally decriminalized Marijuana. Never happened. Don’t expect it to happen under Harris either. Dumb cow laughs about locking up people for profit using less than a gram of weed.
I can’t wait for the suprise faces of all the people when they realize the cop is lying to them.
It would’ve been cool if she said this when she was actively putting people in cages for weed.
It would’ve been cool if she said this for the past 4 years while she was VP.
Now she’s saying it for an election. I’m sure she’s legit this time. lol.
She co-sponsored a bill to fully legalize it in 2018. Behind closed doors she was advocating for legalizing it as VP, but Biden doesn’t support full legalization so it would’ve been a bad look for him if his VP was publicly going against him when he was still running
How dare someone change their mind! We should definitely teach her a lesson she won’t forget and be amongst the 3000 people who who vote for Cornel West in November!
If a politician actually changes their mind that’s fine. If they change their mind to become pro-cannabis legalization, that’s great.
But they shouldnt try to gaslight the populace into believing that this was their stance all along.
If this was Kamala’s position all along, then her actions as District Attorney are very hypocritical.
If she actually had a change of heart, she should apologize to the nonviolent victims she chose to prosecute and incarcerate.
Or you could not let the perfect be the enemy of the good and celebrate a candidate advocating for legalization.
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There’s an actual process for it that’s underway. I don’t remember the details, but it’s approaching the final stages. So basically, Biden has in fact been working on it, he’s just doing it properly so it’s harder to overturn for petty bullshit republican reasons.
