A former senior security official tells Fergal Keane that Israel might be committing war crimes in northern Gaza.
  • Nougat@fedia.io
    851·
    8 months ago

    It’s always “ex” and “former,” never “current.”

  • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.worldEnglish
    352·
    8 months ago

    Israelis concerned about morality should refuse to serve in the IDF at all and take the jail time instead.

    For those who didn’t, they obviously believe in what they’re doing to some extent and I’m not convinced that the incentives are really there to do the right thing. What is the consequence for committing the war crime? It is non existent. Straight up. So if you risk punishment by refusing, why would you?

    Again, if you have morals you should lay down your arms and fucking leave Gaza immediately. Refusing one order is pointless when there are war crimes committed every day.

  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.mlEnglish
    272·
    8 months ago

    I was going to joke and say they’ll have to just stay at home, but those homes are likely illegal settlements

  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.comEnglish
    6·
    8 months ago

    Gee I don’t know … they call themselves the Chosen People and require everyone else to do that too or they levy accusations of antisemitism.

    How can a Chosen Person TM do a war crime ? Unpossible.

  • PanArab@lemm.eeEnglish
    31·
    8 months ago

    They relish in committing war crimes, they don’t see us as people

  • ATDA@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    8 months ago

    Some of them, others I think uh monster trucked through un facilities with tanks?

  • atro_city@fedia.io
    211·
    8 months ago

    And face being dragged before court for refusing to follow orders. The army is very well known for giving soldiers freedom to interpret orders.

      • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        6·
        8 months ago

        Which honestly might be one of the most underrated democratic safeguards, on top of just helping prevent atrocities towards other people.

        • PugJesus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          8 months ago

          Rules-based order > Ruler-based order

          I always think, though not in the context of war crimes, how two friends of mine related in Basic Training that the drill instructors would give them strict orders to not let anyone through on guard duty who didn’t meet some criteria or another, and then other instructors would come by and attempt to badger and bamboozle the poor trainee soldier into letting them through (and God help any who was stupid enough to let them through).

          Rules can be inflexible, but they’re also a barrier against arbitrary abuses. Our abuses have to be regular and systemic, dammit!

    • LavenderDay3544@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      8 months ago

      You are not required to obey an unlawful order and in most militaries you are required not to. If you get court martialed it shouldn’t be a problem since you were in the right and not the officer issuing the unlawful order.