Honestly, some things can be done faster/as fast on GUI. So really just use whatever increases your productivity.
Pshaw! CLI and GUI? Real network engineers make hand crafted API calls!
You gotta admit, it’s fun to meme the opposite camp. Whether you are a GUI or CLI person.
But you look way cooler when using the terminal for most of your stuff 💁♂️ also using a riced out window manager and riced out Vim config for which you spent hundreds of hours on customizing every aspect of it :p normal people don’t know what the fuck is going on on your pc so you can feel instantly feel superior to those normies! Ah also btw i use arch ;)
I use both. I use the CLI for a lot of stuff but I also use the GitHub Desktop fork for Linux lol. I don’t care how powerful git is in CLI, that gui is just so nice imo
It took me forever to realize I could edit config files in a graphical text editor. When you have a really long file it’s just nicer to have properly formated text wrapping and a scrollbar with a preview box.
Exactly. Use the tools you have the way they fit you best. If it aids your work flow learn the CLI commands you use the most. If it’s something obscure or rarely used, use the gui.
Another not mentioned benefit of becoming comfortable with using the cli is that you then can more easily script stuff.
“graphical user interfaces make easy tasks easy, while command line interfaces make difficult tasks possible”
- William E. Shotts Jr., The Linux Command Line: A Complete Introduction
It has taken me a long time to get comfortable using a Linux CLI (definitely not as familiar with windows cmd prompt/powershell), and I know that if I log into a box anywhere, If it has
shorbashor some variant of those shells, I’ll be able to get by.Now, on my home server, moving & renaming a bunch of media files has me really wishing I had a DE installed there to Ctrl + click/Drag-n-drop…
Also, I love using VScodium/Code as an IDE bc of its configurability & rich plugin ecosystem – but recently I had some performance hiccups with extensions not playing nice together and started (again) down the masochistic path of configuring neovim to use as an “IDE”…
Why not mount your server as a share and use your desktop GUI to manipulate files? Then you can do both.
Laziness so far haha but yes that’s a good plan
Skip the masochism, try helix. Switched to that + zellij with about 20 lines of config and never looked back
Takes a second to get used to the keybindings but after about ~2w you can painlessly switch back and forth between vim and helix pretty much instantly
Helix + zellij huh? I’ll definitely try it out
Feel free to ping me if I can help, at least in the form of starter configs/small hacks that emulate VS Code workflows or something :)
Personally I was the guy that had thousands of lines of Vim and Emacs configurations, so I really had to do this to manage the time sink (like you I had a stint with VS Code in between that eventually stopped working for me)
Someone told me that windows server UI interface has more options than CLI. I got scared of windows server (how do you repeatedly Setup the same server, with a screenshot documentation ???)
It’s been a while since I’ve found that true. You can do everything you want to do in powershell now days.
Yeah, I think MS started adding PowerShell for everything after server 2012 R2.
First of all, most Windows settings are in the registry, so you don’t have to go to the UI, you can just upload new settings straight into the registry through CLI.
Second, PowerShell exists and it’s awesome!
And third, you can always use UI automation tools if you’re bad at registry and PowerShell. Just record your session and run whenever needed.
Yeah, keep telling yourself that buddy.
So far I don’t think anyone has interpreted the meme correctly, the wikiHow guy is supposed to be an obvious shortcoming expressed as a guy trying to convince himself it’s not a problem.
I think I really only use GUIs if I am learning something new and trying to understand the process/concepts or if I’m doing something I know is too small to automate. Generally once I understand a problem/tool at a deeper level, GUIs start to feel restrictive.
Notable exceptions are mostly focused around observability (Grafana, new relic, DataDog, etc) or just in github. I’ve used gh-dash before but the web ui is just more practical for day to day use.
For context, I’m in SRE. I feel like +90% of my day is spent in kubernetes, terraform, or ci/cd pipelines. My coworkers tend to use Lens but I’m almost exclusively in kubectl or the occasional k9s.
Searching a log file? I want
less. Searching all log files? I want log aggregation lol.If I knew what I was looking for I could grep all the log files and pipe the output to another file to aggregate them.
The problem is that they’re all on different servers. Once you use log aggregation stuff like DataDog, Splunk, or Kibana you get it, but before it’s hard to see the benefits. Stuff like being able to see a timestamp of when an error first appeared and then from the same place see what other stuff happened around the same time.
If I had dozens or hundreds of servers that would make a huge difference, but for under a dozen I think the cost of setting that all up isn’t worth the added benefit. Plus if the log aggregation goes down (which I’ve seen happen with some really hairy issues) you’re back to grepping files so it’s good to know how.
Totally. I’m talking more from the enterprise perspective. Even apart from that I’m not sure if the cost is worth it at that scale. Even using foss solutions the dev hours setting it up might not be worth it.
Exactly.
Github’s UI is total garbage compared to basic git commands, though.
You can’t manage pull requests, github actions, repo collaborators, permissions, or any number of the dozens of other things github does just from basic git commands.
it makes you a Windows engineer which is worse
"Windows engineer’ lmao.
PSA: Since his finger and the reflection touches, he’s likely looking into a one way mirror. There’s someone behind the glass.
I just walked around my house touching all my mirrors and they all do this. Hope they’re not on to me now… Think I’ll wait for night and try to make a break for it.
Or it’s an extremely thin glass.
Or just a reflective surface.
Or his name is Truman Burbank
Both interfaces are important and useful. I spend much time in both and would hate being force to use either for everything.
So much GUI, and never a mouse click. Only the best hackers get a whole new screenfull of GUI for every one of their seemingly random key presses.
https://hackertyper.net never fails to impress.
That is awesome, and now I feel awesome.
And now the timeline is forked.
Use a computer in whatever way you want and/or need to best get the job done. It’s a tool for accomplishing tasks. The amount of random gatekeeping for no goddamn reason in tech/programming/FLOSS is ridiculous.
i feel you bro. people in here talking shit like they don’t know that some net devices are literally made for webgui first and foremost, and programmatic changes don’t work for every api even if it says it’s supported (fucking looking at brocade).
if you’re used to cisco cli, shit like juniper or palo alto or f5 can be intimidating when looking at the configs.
but i swear to fucking god if you use gui instead of cli for cisco, we gon have words.
Cisco and Juniper CLIs are terrible imo… Why won’t they just use a proper modern set of tools instead of their own proprietary shit that doesn’t interface with anything else?
because cisco fears change and doesnt innovate technologies so much as acquire other companies’ tech and frankenstein it into their portfolio.
Had to get some metrics out of an old Cisco box that weren’t available through SNMP, and the only solution I could come up with was to periodically SSH some commands and regex the results.
That required way too much shell-foo and the SSH daemon would just randomly refuse/drop connections.
If only there was some kind of standard metric API that every other modern software supports out of the box…
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Using the best tool for a job makes way more sense than sticking to one because of a principle
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That’s why I use lftp for cli sftp. For most operations it is much faster. Especially when you want to use regex to select files.
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Hard disagree. I use arch btw
👍👍👍 arch btw 🤤🤤🤤 I use arch btw 🥺🥺🥺 you 🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵🫵 should use arch too btw 👄❤️ I used to be a filthy 🤮 windows 🤮 user 🤮 but now I use arch!!! 🤤🤤 don’t be afraid of the install process, you’re just a dumbass normie 🤓🤓🤓🤓
This but unironically
No, thank you, I’ll be staying on Gentoo tyvm
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Is this your first attempt at emoji pasta?
