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    Holy shit y’all. Developers need to eat too. It’s totally fine to charge for an app or serve ads. LjDawson is a fantastic developer and really listens to his user base. Yes there are plenty of open source apps to use, but sometimes closed source is way more polished because the developer makes it their job to create the app. Living isn’t free. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      And it’s a one-time fee.

      I used Sync for Reddit for 11 years.

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      Maybe a one time payment like for original sync, imagine supporting subscription services for a FOSS app 🤡🤡🤡

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        except sync isn’t FOSS, lemmy the fediverse link aggregator is 🤡🤡🤡

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          I’m obviously referring to lemmy when I say foss app, you think you look smart being a contrarian?

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            except lemmy isn’t an app, it’s a platform. sync is a lemmy app.

            taken from the website:

            “Lemmy is a selfhosted social link aggregation and discussion platform.”

            so if anything it’s you who is the contrarian, lol. but I digress ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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              only one of those 2 is foss app the answer was obvious but the contrarian wanted an excuse to reply to me with the clown emoji back

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                  The one time payment for no ads used to support the original app for years and now it’s forced in a subscription model, the definition of greediness. I dont know why you support such behaviour and insult others on top of it, (oh the irony) but you do you.

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        Perhaps when you create your own app you can determine your own cost model.

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          “Dont judge politicians unless youre one of them” nice mindset bro

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            If you’d like to have a real conversation, I’m willing. If you want to pretend to argue things no one claimed, you’re on your own.

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              I tried an analogy since you didnt see the fallacy of your point, that failed too I guess, telling me dont judge the dev unless youve been in their shoes would mean u cant judge politicians either, I can and should have opinion on stuff regardless

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                Again, point me to where I said don’t judge. I didn’t. Judge away.

                If you look at my post again, you’ll find that I tried to suggest that when you make your own app (and you should), you should decide on your cost model which sounds like it’ll be free. I eagerly await your release!

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                  Not replying to my points and telling me I wait for your app is called an ad hominem, is this how you reply to people in real life?

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            politicians are meant to be judged devs are meant to be criticized just for improvement, you can just use another app

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              Sure? I only criticized ill stick to liftoff since theres only subscription option

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                  current comments defend his current actions so no opinion on that until it happens.

                  PS: weird how the no ads option takes more time to develop than the subscription option with 10x features, INCLUDING the no ads one !

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          1. their default model isnt based on ads like sync for lemmy

          2. a third party client isnt as much work as the fediverse as u see it took him a month

          3)ads used to be a one time payment for his old app, so the money was enough for him back then and now hes even richer so why do you excuse his greediness?

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            It took him a month because he adapted a code base he had been working on for a decade.

            It’s not greediness to want to be able to pay your bills. This is his job. Also a single payment option has already been developed it’s just not made in live yet.

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              He was already paying his bills with the one time payment and now hes even richer, this is the definition of greediness. Also his future plans are irrelevant here I am judging his current actions and the OP comment defending them.

              PS, weird how the no ads feature takes longer to develop than the recurring payment with 10 features, INCLUDING the no ads one!

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                  I said rich-ER buddy, how did you miss the one word? One time payment was enough when he had even less money back when he didnt have the reddit money yet so theres no excuse to hide no ads option behind a subscription model, especially for a foss platform, its not like its a reddit client and pays for api

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                  Which didnt have the no ads offer, which is what my one time payment is referring to.

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                Who cares if he is rich. He is making a good product and people want that product. He can charge whatever he wants, there is no point taking it personally. If you don’t want to pay, there is no one forcing you - you can even continue to use the app for free if you want.

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                  Sure he can charge whatever, I’m just calling out his greediness idk what’s your point

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    It’s like having Reddit back, this is amazing. 🙏

    For as long as I can remember Reddit and Sync have been one and the same. I never used Reddit website or app, only ever used Sync to browse Reddit hosted content. I used it a lot. I’ve missed it a lot.

    Between the Lemmy platform and Sync client, to all intents and purposes what Reddit was has been fully restored/migrated.

    I know it’s early days, but I did not expect to see anything like this so soon and it gives me hope that Lemmy can grow and thrive into the network of people that always made Reddit what it was. Everything that’s needed is there - early, a little rough around the edges, but there. And being improved constantly.

    Hallelujah!

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      Definitely agree. This has pretty much completely restored the reddit experience for me after I chose to delete my reddit account in the wake of reddit’s third-party app debacle. The Sync developer deserves major props. This app will surely make lemmy so much more attractive and accessible to a host of new users in the coming weeks and months.

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        Yup. The third party devs ought to bring in the charm, and the people along with it as well… Fingers crossed.

        Hoping that guys like the dev of joey app too shows up 🤞🏻

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      It’s the same experience for me, but I still do a lot of Google searches based on Reddit content since there is a lot of information posted there over the years.

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      Well said. I paid for the ad free version right away. Years of sync use gives me full confidence it’s worth it.

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      Let’s hope that all the subs gonna start appearing in as well… Complete with the footfalls + content Ofc. 👍🏼

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        Be the change you want to see! If the sub doesn’t exist yet, make it yourself, and people like you will come to fill it. Welcome home!

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          Got plans to. Never want to see a repeat of the stunt that ahole of reddit pulled on so many people.

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    Jesus, the absolute entitlement in this thread. Can everyone just chill until the app is out of the beta version? Some of us are fine with seeing ads until the lifetime fee is available, and some of us are fine paying a subscription until the lifetime fee is available. If you’d rather not use the app until then don’t, but trashing the dev for getting paid while he works endlessly to create the sync experience for us is so ignorant and childish.

    Sync is by far the best user experience app for lemmy that’s available for Android, just as it was for reddit, and it’s worth the wait and the price until the pro version is available.

    I hope the dev ignores the whiners and focuses on those of us that get it. How demotivating to see people run their mouths when they dint know what they’re talking about.

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      Yeah man. I was a sync for reddit user for like a decade. I don’t actually know, but my reddit account was more than a decade old, and I really only was a user on sync for as long as I can remember. Sync was reddit for me.

      I happily paid for the app forever ago, and I reckon I’ll use lemmy much the way I did reddit. And I tried a bunch of the different FOSS clients and none of them are as clean and polished as Sync was or is now. Maybe that’s because I just got so used to sync? I don’t know. But I do know that at this point in time, paying 20 bucks a year to support a developer whose work I’ve enjoyed for a significant portion of my life is 100% worth it. And I can afford it.

      I used to have to use open source software all the time. I used gimp for so long, I’m just glad I have a job now that I have free access to photoshop. Why? Because it’s fucking better! Because paying for a well refined product makes it easier to use.

      So all these sync haters, keep hating. But now, I can highlight the haters so the next time I come across them I already know what they are about and how they are just haters.

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      Bought the one month sub to tide me over, but bought the Ad free as soon as it released. Honestly, cost me less than half of a decent steak dinner so I ain’t mad. A man’s gotta eat and there is no guarantee that Lemmy is ever gonna pull Reddit numbers. Dude basically spent a month blasting out what I consider the best experience for Reddit, now for Lemmy, he deserves a pay day.

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        Huh? You can test it though. The app’s functionality is totally free. You’re just not entitled to an ad free experience if you don’t pay.

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        It’s identical to sync for Reddit. You even added the ability to restore from backup from Reddit. You’ve done amazing work

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        I need an excuse to try a comment and this seems perfect. Thanks dude you’ve clearly been putting in some work. It’s like coming home.

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        You know, you have many fans all around the world. This must be great feeling. And your product is/was the meaning of Redd*t for a long time, now it’s will be Lemmy=Sync

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      It was seriously like hugging an old friend when I woke up to the download this morning! So happy and warm to be back!

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        I was about to uninstall the other Lemmy client was never going to return Lemmy until the notification

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    ITT, bunch of people who have never used Sync for Reddit whining about Sync Ultra and the app having ads. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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      The ads through me for a sec, but then I realized this wasn’t the Dev or Pro version.

      I’ll end up subscribing at some point, but I do wish there was a one time option like last time. Not really interested in the cloud backups and all that, just the ad free experience.

      Edit: Spoke too soon. Looks like there wil be a one time option at some point in addition to a version with no ads. Looking forward to it.

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          A wise decision.

          See everyone, it’s this level of responsiveness and communication that’s led many of us to want to pay for this app.

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          How does that work if I already purchased the yearly model? Can I transfer the yearly to the ad-free one time?

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          You know what, I had paid for the lifetime pro mode in sync for reddit, and usually prefer one-time payments to recurring subscriptions, but I chose to go with the recurring ultra subscription this time, to contribute to your regular financial stability. Your dedication is commendable. Thanks for all the work you’ve done over the years!

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          Thanks for that. Before I go ahead with it, just wondering if there will be a Dev version similar to the way you did it with Sync for Reddit that has beta updates baked in or will this be that version.

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            No. In a previous post he mentioned that Google has really cracked down on apps that are too similar. I really enjoyed Sync Pro in the past, but looks like papa Google said no.

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          $115, are you fucking mental!? I paid $35 for the “lifetime” option 13 months ago

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        After a while, I realized i was not seeing ads because I use adguard DNS.

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          I am using the VPN (I think DNS too) and I get an empty box between posts saying “sponsored content” or something like that

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      I used sync for reddit for a decade. No way in hell I’m paying $20 for the ad-free upgrade. Explain how lemmy which is months old and a minute fraction of the size of reddit, should cost me more to browse ad-free than reddit? It’s mind boggling that we’re in the age where asking $20 for a 3rd party social media app is being defended as reasonable.

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        you aren’t paying for volume of content available, that would only make sense if you were subscribing directly to reddit or lemmy as you would with netflix, disney etc

        revenue goes to the app dev, and sync for lemmy and sync for reddit have i would presume, identical development and maintenance costs.

        your logic is like saying that fuel should be cheaper for a 1.4l mini than it is for a ferrari

        That said, I do think £18.99 lifetime just to remove ads is a bit extreme, its certainly not affordable for me. That’s more than a year of Ultra without the extra features. I think sweetspot for “pro” edition that has no ads certainly would have been sub £10, especially when im gonna be a large volume of users have dns that removes ads anyway and really the “pro” is just a “one time donation” kinda thing

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          Yeah, I wasn’t seeing the ads on the free beta because of my dns settings but immediately bought the remove ads version when it became available to support the developer. I bought Sync Pro for Reddit ages ago for a very small amount and used it every day for years. So happy to have the one time option as I am not a fan of the subscription model.

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          My issue with lemmy being young isn’t the lack of content, it’s that he’s selling a “lifetime” option on something that’s barely been around long enough to know we’ll keep using it/it’ll be around in a year.

          I completely agree that it should be sub $10.

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        I’m not defending Sync (I don’t even use it, I’m more of a Slide/Infinity guy; I’m just here to see how other Reddit app ports are doing), but Lemmy is not “months old”. It’s been a thing since early 2019, the recent Reddit drama just gave it a massive push bringing its userbase from negligible to tiny.

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          Right yah I felt like that was probably the case when I was typing that honestly, that’s my bad, I guess I should’ve said only really started taking off months ago, and is still rather small.

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        1. It’s perfectly fine to use the app and only pay when you feel like it, say you feel when the Fediverse grows to be fun enough. Or alternatively never pay and just use the free version. Or use something like Voyager / wefwef which is a fantastic app in its own right. You have the choice.

        2. $20 really isn’t a lot when it’s an app you use everyday. If you don’t spend enough time on Lemmy then yes, it may not make sense to buy but if you do it’s really a no-brainer.

        Also I would argue Apple / Google’s whole app store pricing model when it first started out really devalued good software. $1.99 for a lifetime support of an app? Come on. $20 is reasonable.

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    Storing data usage, personal ads, 21.99€ just to remove ads or a subscription model.

    I’m a dev myself and I get that everyone needs to be compensated, but right now I have only one thought:

    “You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain.”

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      Been a long time supporter of sync. Honestly a bit sad to see there’s nothing for those that had pro/ultra before :/

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      Yeah, just seeing that it will collect data about me for personalized ads was a turnoff. There are plenty of Lemmy clients without ads. I can’t imagine seeing ads while using Lemmy, either.

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      Sync Ultra and Adfree are two different things altogether.

      Ultra comes with adfree as a perk among with a ton of other stuff, but if all you care for is adfree, that’s $9.99 lifetime.

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      I’m not advocating for anyone to buy a price they’re not comfortable with, but personally I reasoned that, having used Sync for nearly 10 years, it would be like paying 10 bucks for each of those years for an app that I have used the most out of all the apps in my life

      Sync was a huge part of my life (will continue to be), and I am happy to compensate for that.

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      Or you use discord and direct engagement with users to cultivate a fanclub around yourself, and set them lose to brigade everywhere and defend literally every single decision. Then they’ll cheer you as you become the villain

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    Ads or subscription.

    Yeah, I’ll stick with Thunder. Having used Lemmy and Mastodon, I realised how much I hate ads.

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      Yup that is a real rough pill to swallow when the default is free AND no ads. If I’m going to drop money on lemmy I’d rather just donate to whoever is hosting my instance.

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        I hear what you (and everyone else) is saying, but the developer needs to make money somehow or they’ll have to go get a regular job, and then who will develop?

        I think what I’m saying is, how else is the Dev meant to feed his face?

        I miss the days when I could just drop a couple of dollars on the paid version, stops the ads and works forever, subscriptions turn me off.

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        It’s the only Lemmy app that has an actual working and usable tablet mode. Thunder’s tablet mode is… weird. Everybody else doesn’t have a tablet mode. Unfortunately, leading with a subscription model is terrible. Even if they’re already planning a one time payment option (which they should launched with), it’s already left a sour taste. I left big software that was essential for work because of the subscription model (Adobe, Autodesk) and found alternatives. Sync isn’t even essential and there are multiple alternatives. Maybe not that pretty, but they’re decent enough. I hope Boost does better.

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          Sync launched in beta. While it’s unfortunate that a great majority off people seeing the posts aren’t aware of that, and think it’s a full launch.

          The dev opened it up as beta, so more then 100 people could help test it out.

          A pero versión is coming before the full release.

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            There’s absolutely no reason for beta software to not be able to launch with a one time payment option. A lot of companies do this. Just look at all the early access games from steam. This is not a valid excuse in my opinion.

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              He has only worked on it for 6 weeks since the heat of the reddit drama, probably just figured that’s a thing he can wait a little longer for but some people were very antsy to get back on sync

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                He added the one time remove ads feature just now proving that he could have added this at the start just as easily. Your argument again is not a valid excuse.

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        Things loading slowly are due to the instance themselves. The app itself is lightning fast.

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      That was the case with the original Sync, no surprise here.

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        Although there was the option to purchase Pro as a one-time fee. This one unfortunately only has a subscription option (which I’m not too keen on).

        Edit: ljdawson has confirmed there will be an one-time payment options for both Ultra and ad removal!

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          It’ll probably have a one time fee option. The dev must know that not everyone will want to pay a subscription. I paid for removing ads on Sync for Reddit and I’ll happily do it again, so hopefully there will be an option of just removing ads. I don’t use either Lemmy or Reddit enough to justify paying a subscription, even though I really respect the dev.

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          While I’ve never used this app, it seems like there are so many good quality free/open source Lemmy apps now that an app with ads and subscriptions doesn’t really make sense.

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      I’m fine with an ad version and then an upgrade to an ad-free version.

      What’s insane here is this developer making a subscription service instead of an ad-free pro version

      I mean, he’s competing against TOTALLY FREE, Ad-free lemmy apps RIGHT NOW, and every 3rd-party Reddit app developer is working on a lemmy version as we speak.

      This was a total clown move. I was ready to drop like $10 on a pro version right now, if it had great UI. But a subscription … For access to a FREE service? The balls on this guy.

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        Lemmy is not a free service. You might not be paying for it but some of us are. With subscriptions too. Subscriptions are the better funding model for continued development and operation.

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          Lemmy instances are not a free service. Yet don’t have ads and instead rely on donations or are self funded. And then this app comes out with a subscription model to remove ads despite instances doing the heavy lifting of this space that has been contrary to the usual monetization model?

          I’m not sure this type of defense you make really applies in this situation. If it was a reddit app sure, but in the space of the fediverse it stands out as rather unusual.

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            I’m not defending anything. Simply pointing out that Lemmy isn’t a free service even if it looks that way for some (or many).

            I’m not sure who does the heavy lifting btw. It’s not easy to decipher whether running an instance or developing the cloud components or the mobile components is easier. Also the funding is a bit wonky at the moment. The core Lemmy development is woefully underfunded compared to some of the large instances. It’s likely to get better eventually but so far I’ve noticed that core development funding barely budged for the last month or two. Instances are vitally dependent on the core project.

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              People are understandably reluctant to donate to the core Lemmy devs, but donating to an instance is a lot more reasonable to many folks so that’s why it’s unfolding that way.

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              Yes, lemmy isn’t a free service So the argument to defend lemmy and give them money makes more sense when it comes to instances than it does for an app that shows up with a subscription model to remove ads.

              The subscription from sync is not one run directly by the lemmy instance that is not charging api calls, not showing ads to users, and not paywalling users yet taking on so much expense. Which is why I’m not really sure what role sync plays here from your comments, since sync app and the costs of hosting a lemmy instance seem like entirely different matters.

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        It’s just evidence it’s a gold rush.

        I wasn’t expecting an ideologically motivated project by any means, but his focus is on the diminishing parade of users he’s got from the previous app and not where he’s sending them.

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          I got kinda disappointed when I noticed that the author almost doesn’t visit Lemmy and everything is coordinated on Discord instead of the, you know, forum-thingy which you make an app for.

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        On sync for reddit there always was a one time purchase to remove ads. The subscription is for extra features which you honestly don’t need. I believe the one time purchase is coming back on this version as well.

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          Should update that subscription page in the app with the disclaimer. ‘App is in beta and there will be a one time payment option to remove ads once it gets out of beta’. Since right now the subscription only model to remove ads is leading to bad impressions that is drawing attention away from the actual app.

          Especially on Android where not a lot of people encounter subscription models, and this is the first of its kind I’ve encountered on Android.

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      I was wondering what was up with the ads consent things. The reason I switched to Sync in the first place was to get rid of ads on Reddit…

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        Where? I can’t see it in the Ultra section??

        Update

        Found it.

        £12.99

        The option is available by clicking your profile icon and selecting ‘remove ads’.

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      it’s already there. ‘remove ads’ button. steep given you can get Microsoft Office for that price if you look hard enough but I will probably get it.

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      if it’s your first time using sync…open new window is a great feature for muti tasking subbed list…look at your subscriber list, press the 3 dots and open in new window will appear, you can open a subbed community entirely in a new window

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      Fediverse is when someone else uses their own money so I can post memes - John Lemmy

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      Going from $35 to $115 for the lifetime subscription is an absolute farce

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    Lol! The choice is ads or a SUBSCRIPTION!?

    My friend, we know other 3rd party Reddit app developers are working as fast as they can to make lemmy apps. One of them is bound to have a one-time pro version upgrade. I’ll hold out for that.

    LMAO … Subscriptions. Why on earth do you think we left Reddit?!

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      I left Reddit because Spez is an asshole and he killed third-party API access (which, btw, impacted more than just clients - many useful bots/scripts died too as a result of this change).

      For many of us, Sync was Reddit, and killing Sync basically killed Reddit for us, but now that Sync is back (for Lemmy), many of us are more than happy to pay a subscription to support the dev, instead of supporting Reddit. ljdawson is an awesome developer who actually listens to his users and updates his apps regularly. If you don’t want to support him and/or use a different app, that’s your call of course, but for fans of Sync, it’s like coming back home after a long time and getting that feeling of “there’s no place like home”.

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        It’s certainly a nice app, but I’ve also grown attached to Connect over these last few weeks. I even donated to the dev, which is something my stingy ass never does.

        While I loved Sync, I’m not paying $20/yr for any social media. If I recall, Sync Pro for Reddit was something like $5-6 lifetime. I’d pay that again without blinking an eye.

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            If you use private dns if on android then no ads in sync. I just saw this post and noticed there were no ads in my sync app. Then I remembered that I am using private dns for blocking ads. I might switch it on for supporting the dev. Because non intrusive ads are fine for a great lemmy experience. Now I am having the same experience of sync when I use reddit.

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              I don’t see ad because I have it blocked system wide on the phone, but I’ve moved towards not keeping apps that show ads installed anymore. Have moved onto either foss or paid versions.

              And subscription only model to remove ads is definitely not something I want to support, and the first of its kind I’ve encountered on Android outside of Apple.

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        I was on Reddit for 13 years, and bought the pro version every app ever made for the platform (sync, RiF, bacon reader, boost, Apollo, Joey, etc, etc.). Sync was … fine. But in no way was it a stand out. RiF had them all beat by a mile for nearly a decade, then Joey elbowed them out in the last few years.

        Anyway, I’d have been happy to buy sync Pro for lemmy, but a subscription is bonkers when there are free alternatives.

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          Dev has to somehow pay their bills. And for continuous support they need some kind of reward for their time and effort. Eventually other apps will be moved to subscription or they will just stop updating. These apps will still run because of ad support or subscription. Ads are actually non intrusive.

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            If you think ads are non intrusive we have different definitions.

            If any selection of the free content network I’m a part of isn’t showing me the content I want it’s an intrusion.

            There are umpteen services that run on donations, telling yourself ads are necessary is the same deal with the devil as the public Internet.

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              Dude. There are different types of ads. Small ad banners which don’t affect normal posts is not an issue for me. I am getting a good experience so this is the way I am going to pay for it.

              There are umpteen services that run on donations

              A lot of them when the user base has grown, wasn’t sustainable and also got closed down and moved to subscription.

              If any selection of the free content network I’m a part of isn’t showing me the content I want it’s an intrusion.

              You can pay for subscription or use another app. It’s fine. Other devolopers who don’t charge a single bit now will change it in the future. Who is mad to support an app without getting any kind of benefit. There are some open-source developers who do that. Still.

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                I’m here on the fediverse because ads are poison.

                Knowing my neighbors are swigging more of that shit doesn’t make me feel any better.

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            When I accidentally tapped on the first ad and it automatically opened a shopping app I had on to a product I have no care for. Personally for me, the ads ARE intrusive. I instantly uninstalled after that.

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      there will be a separate in app purchase structure

      the ultra subscription was a separate sub model from sync for reddit that was on the side to help support the 1 developer who works on the app if you want to. the model was already there and nothing has changed from reddit, so it was probably easy to leave the code in with the same features and keep it in.

      you also need to realize this is a beta as well so it’s not “officially” released yet. if sync for reddit is anything to go by, once LJ is content on the app it will be released in full, with additional pro / dev variants to come. but since those are considered separate apps, those won’t come until later since they need to be reviewed and put on the app store… which makes sense there’s only 1 variant at this time

      edit: pro model won’t happen due to Google play store policies on duplicate apps. one time in app purchase is coming

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      Chill, mate, it’s open-beta. Sync Ultra was a thing on Sync for Reddit as well, which comes with features that need constant cash such as server maintenance etc. IAP for ad removal will come soon.

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      I’m not addicted to any social media enough to pay for a subscription. And I’m sick of subscriptions in general. I’m fine with liftoff.

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      I disagree. I think there’s a lot of people living in a fantasy. Things cost money. You can’t rely on good will to pay for developers, engineers, and hardware.

      Maybe ads aren’t the way to go but you’re not being realistic if you want this place to grow without some kind of funding.

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      Voyager is the way to go. It doesn’t even feel like it’s “just” a WebApp.

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        I respect your opinion. For me it was super clunky. I tried every app for lemmy. The best one is sync for now. If there is a proper competition it will be boost for lemmy.

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          I’m back after testing Sync for a few minutes and… You’re absolutely right and I think Sync is winning me over!

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        None of the other lemmy apps I’ve used have quite felt right, though I think voyager was the best of the ones I tried in terms of ease of use. I really liked sync for reddit, so I’m hoping I’ll like the lemmy version too. I generally try to avoid subscriptions, but if I like the app and they offer a one time payment to be ad free at some point then I’m fine with that. Tbh so far I haven’t actually seen any ads though so if they’re not obtrusive then they won’t bother me. Devs gotta put food on the table somehow.

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    Yes it contains ads. I’d rather have a single purchase.

    But, DNS adblocking does remove the ads, just leave a grey box. It’s also definitely far more polished than any of the other Lemmy apps right now.

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      I don’t even have any grey boxes either. Where does the ad appear in the app?

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          I don’t know why. I don’t have anything like that. 😅 I had been using sync pro for reddit. I have a similar look here. I am running adguard dns private dns for adblock. But it never removed the ad spaces in any app.

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          Yeah I don’t even see ad spaces. I don’t think it is because of dns adguard. It never removed ad spaces. Just the ads. But right now I am having a clean experience with no ads or stuff.

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    Using Sync for Reddit for so long I realized I missed the layout of Sync so I’m glad to see it back for Lemmy.

    Bought a month subscription since I can use my rewards to pay for it. Worth it for the no ads.