• Sundial@lemm.ee
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    A 30-year-old Maccabi Tel Aviv fan describes the moments of horror: “I finished a four-month reserve in Gaza, and what I experienced here is no less scary. There is a war out here. They ran over me and pulled a knife on me. I am slightly injured, but I am not ready to receive treatment here, only in Israel. We were ambushed. I’m in the market. I saw with my own eyes children who were caught in explosions. They are everywhere. No police, complete chaos. Everything was pre-planned. The police here abandoned us. Every fourth person walking the street is a Muslim who has come to attack Jews. Me and several hundred other fans are surrounded in the hotel, the police don’t allow us to leave. They just want to fly home.”

    Wonder what he did in those 4 months. I bet you it was a lot worse than what he got here.

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      It was probably scarier because there he was just bombing people with drones and airstrikes and from within tanks and this time he actually was just by himself with no giant guns around

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    2 months ago

    There was a time when I would’ve sympathized with and supported the Israelis.

    But that was 40,000 murders ago.

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      Like, why the fuck are they still inviting their football teams to play?

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        And why the fuck are they in the Europa league? Last I checked Israel was nowhere near Europe. Aren’t they Semitic and from the Middle East? At least they love to use that definition when they shout “antisemitism” at anyone who criticises them. And why are they in the European Song Contest? Anyway, no sympathy. They clearly like violence so let them have it.

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          And why the fuck are they in the Europa league

          Because it wouldn’t be safe for the Israeli teams to play against teams from all the neighboring nations that rightfully despise the actions of their government.

          They could stop murdering innocent people all the time, but losing to European teams instead of ones from the middle east is easier and more profitable.

          And why are they in the European Song Contest?

          In a word? Corruption. In two words: BLATANT corruption.

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            Become a good neighbor? Nah, I’ll go play with my friends in another neighborhood and be an ass to them as well.

            • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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              EXACTLY. I don’t know if the people downvoting me are salty Zionists or confused fellow anti-zionists lol

          • mortimer@lemmy.world
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            Well, looks like it’s not safe for them to play against European teams now too. What a shame.

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              On the one hand, innocent athletes and fans shouldn’t be punished for the actions of the government.

              On the other hand, though, odds are that almost all of them support the atrocities or have actively contributed to them up to and including murdering, raping, and torturing innocent civilians. So fuck em.

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    The only stories about this I’ve seen on Lemmy take a very pro-Israel perspective. Have the Israelis started doing to Lemmy what they’ve done to Reddit?

    NBC’s coverage, as an alternative, says this immediately after it’s opening statement:

    Videos circulating on social media showed violence in the city’s streets, with one video geolocated by NBC News to near Amsterdam’s central station appearing to show people chasing others and physically assaulting them. Separate video geolocated by NBC News showed Maccabi Tel Aviv fans in Amsterdam singing “Death to the Arabs” and “Let the IDF win. We will f*** the Arabs,” as well as tearing down a Palestinian flag.

    …which clarifies that the attack was the people of Europe showing that unlike their governments, they do not tolerate genocidal apartheid supporters.

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      The woman quoted by NBC on twitter literally states the video is of Israeli supporters beating up someone.

      NBC and Reuters somehow spin this into Israelis being attacked.

      This is absolute insanity.

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        Yeah, even NBC’s headline isn’t great. But at least it doesn’t open with bogus “antisemitism” wording.

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        Considering there’s a lot of Morocco Arabs in the Netherlands, that’s a bold move for sure.

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        This is the funniest cope I’ve ever seen for ‘my countries ultras tried to start shit with non-football hooligans and got their asses kicked.’

        Fighting people who aren’t women and children without total air superiority isn’t that easy, is it?

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            The video evidence is already out. Plus basically every European knows what an ultra is, and will look at the number of injured and comment “wow, that is lower then normal”

            This is just ultras who got their asses kicked and are trying to claim victim status.

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          Right, because we all know mainstream media like the BBC isn’t biased. This is the same news organization that published an article complaining about the environmental impact of the IDF whereas the Hamas rockets are much better for the environment. Fucking joke.

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            What does this have to do with BBC? Their coverage on the Israeli hooligans had headlines that at a glance made the responses of locals sound anti-Semitic; they didn’t lead with the instigation.

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    They shouldn’t even be allowed to travel to Europe for their genocide support.

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    Hopefully, the European powers that be will start realizing that Israel isn’t a part of us and we don’t want that Zionist hatred on our streets. Maybe leave it in Israel next time and behave in a civilized manner. Honestly, i don’t want to see football with them or Eurovision with them either.

    I’d be ashamed every day if i had to wake up as an Israeli. What a disgrace of a people. Judaism will always have a place in modern Europe but anti Palestinian sentiment does not and i wonder how much longer until both the powers that be and the international community at large realizes European leadership and the European people are not of the same mind when it comes to Israel.

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    If you go to another country you should have respect above all. Fuck around and find out! Love me the dutch!

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      There is a specific kind of person that is able to go see a team playing so far away, and that kind usually is also nationalistic as fuck. Some exceptions of course, but the vast majority will always be POS’s

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    What an utter disgrace. Such barbaric behaviour has no place in a civilized society.

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    Israelis should be able to attend sporting events, and cheer on their team internationally, just like everyone else, without the fear of violence.