• Eldritch@lemmy.world
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        Maybe democrats should have been talking about black jobs like Trump did. What is a black job anyhow? Is that what all those text messages that went out to black people when Trump was announced the winner of the election we’re about? Head hunters looking for new recruits to work in the exciting new field of… checks notes, uh, picking cotton.

        Fuck people are ignorant.

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      There’s still time for them to hop in the strawberry fields after the deportations, then unionize and strike and demand better wages before Musk gets rid of OSHA and collective bargaining

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    Black voters went from

    9 Biden - 1 Trump

    to

    8 Harris - 2 Trump.

    What got Trump elected was white people. This article tries to paint a narrative which does not exist.

    If it were up to black and latinos Harris would be president.

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    They’re trying to group them all together, and that’s not fair for this one. Around 78% of black men voted for Harris, as opposed to the around 44% of Latino men. They’re trying to distract us from the fact that a good portion of this was from white voters by mentioning Latinos anyway. Like, “How did we vote facisim. We didn’t vote for him.” That’s all I see articles for. Where are the articles breaking down why over 50% of white women voted for their own subjugation? They’re so used to black people being the scape goat, they throw us in there even when we had little impact on it.

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      78% of black men who voted. Now, just for funsies, what is the percentage of Black men who chose not to vote, and by acclimation, and I use that word charitably, didn’t vote for Harris thereby giving their missing Harris vote to Trump?

      More Latinos voted for Donald Trump than have ever voted for any Republican candidate ever before.

      You can spin all you like. Democrats lost every swing state and control of the Senate.

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        Just for funsies, what is the percentage of white people who chose not to vote, and by acclimation, and I use that word charitable, didn’t vote for Harris thereby giving the missing Harris vote to Trump?

        Hint, I bet you a hundred bucks that answer would dwarf whatever bullshit your trying to push.

        Fix you own shortcomings there my guy.

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            Percentage by ethic group to see how badly each group fucked us over and even with knowing damn well that this nation goes out of its way to ensure minorities, blacks in particular, can’t vote, i’d still take that double bet.

            Get your racist house in order before you start disparaging minorities that tried to save your asses yet again.

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        Now, just for funsies, what is the percentage of Black men who chose not to vote, and by acclimation, and I use that word charitably, didn’t vote for Harris thereby giving their missing Harris vote to Trump?

        How exactly do you give a missing vote to Trump? If they didn’t vote then neither candidate got that vote.

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    In some polls I’ve seen before the election, the top item for people – this is in general, not a specific demographic – who said that they would vote for Trump was the economy.

    But you can break that down more than “economy”. “Economy” can mean a lot of things. How the stock market is doing. Unemployment. Inflation.

    And when people were asked about that, in the polling data I saw, prices were the top concern.

    I commented well before the election and pointed out that inflation is extremely unpopular with publics. In a study – and this is an old one, but apparently a well known one – that looked at the public in Germany, the US, and Brazil, the public – and particularly in Germany and the US – said that they’d rather have a recession than inflation. That is significant, because in contrast, the mainstream economic position is that it’s preferable for a country to have inflation than a recession.

    I also listened to some interviews of people voting Trump, and a lot of people said “I was better-off under Trump than Biden”.

    My guess is that you can probably chalk a considerable amount of this up to:

    • Not understanding that inflationary policies weren’t simply adopted in isolation, but to avoid a recession resulting from COVID-19.

    • Not knowing that it’s normally considered that inflationary policy is preferable to a recession.

    • Not knowing that the Trump administration also adopted inflationary policy.

    I also remember reading some stuff going well back saying that in general, people tend to credit the President pretty directly for whatever the present state of the economy is. If there are issues, they put it at the feet of the President, and if it’s going well, they put it at the feet of the President…even if the President didn’t have much to do with it (or if it was actually policies from a prior administration that took time to have effect). So to some extent, the politics of being the President always, not just in a situation with a fair bit of inflation as we had stemming from COVID-19, have to do with that voter attribution to the President of the short-term state of the economy.

    I’d also add that political organizations know this and will – not always honestly – aim to exacerbate that take.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/sep/08/donald-trump/fact-checking-donald-trump-on-the-scale-and-causes/

    Donald Trump

    stated on September 7, 2024 in a rally in Mosinee, Wis.:

    Vice President Kamala Harris “cast the tiebreaking votes that caused the worst inflation in American history, costing a typical American family $28,000.”

    So if one wants to avoid the executive being unreasonably penalized for – or taking credit for – the economic state of affairs, then there’s probably a hard communication problem that hasn’t been solved for decades and decades that needs to happen.

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      There are lots of people out there who think that inflation means how much prices have risen in some recent period of their memory. If something that cost $3 in 2018 is now $6 and you tell them inflation is at 2%, they will be completely bewildered as to how this can be true. There are also tons of people who don’t understand why deflation is bad or undesirable. If you can’t tell who is lying to you because you have no idea how the economy works, you’re just going to choose the one you remember as being better.

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    Going to be some well fed leopards next year when Trump starts deporting them.

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      If it really starts happening I think we would immediately see so much bad raw footage.

      I mean there would have to be l mass deportation camps built and people raiding houses. Also blue states won’t go along with it.

      Which will likely sway public opinion back to Dems who will win in 2026 midterms.

      But… 2 years of unrestrained power can do a lot of damage.

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        Most of the border states voted for him. California is the sole resistance but they’re going to face a lot of problems as they get flooded with refugees.

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    As we transition into full-blown tyranny, and the out-group begins to grow, I’m trying to educate myself about how to cope with it, survive and maybe even resist. I have found that discussions among black Americans online are extremely enlightening in this regard, presumably because they have existed forever in a precarious state, something like that which many more of us are about to be thrust. I’m not interested in scapegoating black males over this election. This happened because too many Americans are dumb fucks, ruled by emotions, and gullible as hell. End of story.

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      I’m fucking sick of talking about race as if it means anything at all compared to class. We need a two step program

      1. Tax the fucking billionaires out of existence
      2. Stop destroying the biosphere

      Want to make that program palatable? We use the billionaire taxes to make life suck less for everyone in a clear, food-on-the-God-damn-table-and-children- in-decent-schools Kind of way.

      Racism is real and deadly, but what are we gonna do? Bully the racists into being less racist? Send them off to camps for re-education? Let’s just focus on giving everyone enough money that they don’t have to rely on some racist boss to give them a job, or a racist landlord to give them (allow then to pay for) a home.

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    This is the big zionist media lie they used to favour Trump.

    “More pro business” does not mean better economy and jobs. It just means making the oligarchs even richer.

    If media keeps telling you Biden economy is shit, even when its not, you have to be very economically sophisticated to know they are lying for Trump/GOP.

    There will be no tax breaks for tips, overtime, or social security. These are not Republican “values”. Only slavery is. Tax cuts for corporations and rich will happen. Tariffs and antagonizing world will not reindustrialize America.

    Media enabling a confident liar, with massive Zionist money, is what got him elected.

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    Boy, are they going to be surprised when the minimum wage goes down and what little worker protections US workers have are gone and the economy tanks because of Trump tarrifs and the retaliatory tarrifs from the rest of the world

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    I guess we had Too Much rising wages and record unemployment that it made them all nervous of when the fuckening was going to happen.

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    I expected this after watching Khalid Attaf videos of talking to customers in his family’s gas station/convenience store. It was depressing to see the reasons people were planning to vote this way. If you watch this, save at least a thread of sanity and don’t read the comments.

    https://youtu.be/E-Il-hLjKGY