Summary

The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals upheld Indiana’s law banning puberty blockers and hormones for transgender minors, aligning with similar laws in 26 GOP-led states.

Plaintiffs argued the law discriminates based on sex and interferes with parental rights to direct medical treatment for their children, but the 2-1 ruling dismissed these claims.

The court stated the law applies equally to all minors and parents don’t have unrestricted rights to medical treatments.

This decision comes as the Supreme Court prepares to review a similar Tennessee case, potentially setting a nationwide precedent.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    We’re in Indiana. One of my daughter’s close friends is trans. The school system treats him like shit already. He has to change with the girls and use the girls’ bathroom. Once, a girl was being a bigot to him over and over and he finally lost it and slapped her. He got in trouble, she did not.

    I wish I could help him somehow. He’s such a sweet kid.

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    Trans erasure in action.

    I hope denying healthcare to children was worth owning the libs.

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      They didn’t give a shit about children getting slaughtered in schools for decades. They won’t start caring now.

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      These are children they would be happy with just dying because they’re “choosing” to be queer “against the will of god.”

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    Much like book bans in school libraries that have moved to city libraries and all the other bans that started in schools, this will soon move from bans on children getting healthcare, to bans on adults getting healthcare once they use the “save the children” rhetoric to make their followers comfortable with the prejudices in general.

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    The frustrating part of all of this is that it is true that puberty blockers aren’t approved by the FDA for delaying puberty for gender affirming treatments, but it is used anyway as an off-label use. Criticism of off-label uses of pharmaceuticals is a perfectly valid concern to have.

    But if you actually had this concern in good faith, you would be putting pressure on the FDA to investigate this use of puberty blockers directly and make a call or whether or not this is an approved use. You would be demanding that the FDA fill in the gaps in their knowledge, and only allow this use of puberty blockers if there was no harm found.

    Going straight to the legislature and banning it outright is underhanded as shit. The only reason to do that is because you know that the FDA has no reason to disapprove of this use, and you want to medically oppress trans people regardless of what the science actually says.

    It’s transphobic bullshit, and anyone telling you that their concern is the safety and welfare of children is lying to you, because if that were true they would act like it.

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      Like gender identity interacts with the chemistry of the drug somehow? Is it safe if the kid is cis and it is not when the kid is trans? Is there some (well) materialism in gender identity or is this philosophical dualism of some sort?

      The prescribed use is to suppress the development of sex features by blocking sex hormones, so how is it different?

      This is just fear mongering.

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    Shithole state. I’m SO glad my family is getting an opportunity to get the fuck out of here before Mike Braun fucks it even harder.

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      “I’m not going to get political but”

      “Gets political”

      “Spouts off right wing talking points”

      “Demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the transition process”

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        I did not say I am not going to. the point of that statement is to point out how abnormal it is for me to weigh in on a political issue and how egregious I believe this to be, and I absolutely do not care if it is right left up or down, this should not be politicized, it is human experimentation.

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          “confirms a fundamental lack of understanding of the transition process.”

          “Restates more right wing talking points”

          “Gets triggered by their own name when used by a member of a community they just insulted”

        • OneMeaningManyNames@lemmy.ml
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          it is human experimentation

          No it is not. It is a well thought out medical intervention, with extensively studied effects, and life saving outcomes for trans youth.

          For the most part of this video Vaush debunks every argument that puberty blockers are an experimental treatment https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=HhYruaFZEOI

          American Psychological Organization about young transgender people https://www.apa.org/monitor/2022/07/advocating-transgender-nonbinary-youths

          Or do you think trans people just pop out of thin air as fully grown adults? You understand that trans people once were kids like everybody else right? And finally have you ever spoken to a transgender person and ask what it is like growing up trans? All these ignorant morons fearmonger like this therapy is pushed onto unknowing kids and parents, presented like it is a cool video game. Guess what, people actively seek this therapy for their kids or themselves because they know what it is doing, it stops unwanted sexual features to develop, and it is reversible.

          What was your problem again?

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          Hi, I’m a trans woman and I just wanna say that the name you chose for yourself suits you really well well!

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            The amount of shade casually hidden in this comment is something I aspire to.

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            K. That is a character assassination. Not a necessary argument for people with valid arguments.

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              Hey, I just like how you picked out your name. It’s a compliment. Why do you gotta be so toxic about yourself? Is it the brain full of hatred? I bet it’s the brain full of hatred.

              Best of luck with *gestures at everything*.

              Consider possibly not making trans peoples’ lives harder, yeah? Don’t contribute to that.

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                  Hey, chum, I’m just trying to be uplifting, you wanna come at me with fights, I’m trying to give you a compliment. No wonder you’re not getting laid if you try to fight every woman who says something nice about you.

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      You know damn well this isn’t about surgery. It’s about hormones, and it says so right there in the summary. You didn’t even have to click the link. Nobody is doing breast implants on trans minors (only on cis minors, which is perfectly fine for some reason).

      Forcing a trans kid to go through the wrong puberty even though they know they are trans is extremely traumatic. It’s life ruining. It alters the voice, the shape of the torso, the shape of the face, and facial and body hair in ways that either can’t be fixed at all, or can only be fixed with expensive surgeries later on.

      And if you want people to be absolutely sure about their status before going on hormone replacement therapy, then that is exactly what puberty blockers are for. Leuprorelin prevents puberty so that the kid can figure themself out for a year or two, and then make sure they go through the correct puberty. Even if they decide not to be transgender in the end, they can just go off leuprorelin and start puberty.

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      Going through the wrong puberty is also a life long decision with major consequences. Hope that helps!