Health insurance in America is a legalized extortion system that converts American lives into investor dollars and enjoys overwhelming support of our ruling class thanks to regulatory capture.
It’s a fundamentally unethical and immoral business comparable to black market arms dealing or human trafficking because of the evils it knowingly perpetuates.
All insurance. I have paid enough to homeowners to buy another house, with no claims. Health insurance we’ve had maybe 5 years where we got out more than we paid in, maybe. Could certainly have bought a dozen cars with what I’ve paid car insurance, net of what they have paid to or for me.
All these you can only win by losing but all are worse for being for-profit rather than just risk pooling.
Health insurance I explain to people as: we are paying in taxes for the most expensive groups (old, poor, sick) plus paying for the work insurance premiums, plus paying most of the cost of seeing a doctor for anything except the annual wellness visit. It would be cheaper to cover everyone with the national plan. But everything we pay, is paying someone else’s salary, right? All those people want it to stay like this.
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Always annoys the hell out of me when politicians say BS like, “We know you like your private insurance plan and want to keep it”.
So out of touch.
It’s not entirely out of touch tho. Trust me, there is a not insignificant sect of the populace that firmly believes if private insurance goes away and the country just dips it’s toes into universal healthcare, the communists have won and the country is ruined beyond repair somehow.
After talking to a good amount of these folks, I’ll say the absolute bonkers mental gymnastics to justify that line of thought is truly something to behold.
I think they were also trying to keep folks who already had decent insurance plans, and there were definitely a bunch. Thinking of people in good careers who were also on the tail end of when employers treated employees better - there were a lot of people doing comparatively well who had (at least somewhat justifiable, we’re talking healthcare) concerns about the idea of single-provider.
(referring to the “if you like your plan, you can keep it” angle during ACA days)
By definition, a healthcare system based on insurance can’t be as efficient as a universal system. Profits for healthcare companies and hospitals are wasted resources. Also, why the hell is medical school and residency so selective? They basically cap the number of doctors that we can have. We should be increasing the number of doctors. Create a universal system like every other developed country has. Cut out the waste that is private insurance. We pay way more than anywhere else for worse outcomes.
My father-in-law always grunts “socialism something something” whenever I mention supporting a universal healthcare system. Of course, he does that while being on Medicare.
Time to shame him for sucking on the socialist medicare teat
The part I find most puzzling is we just elected a guy who wants to repeal Obamacare along with a lot of other corporate regulations…… this country amazes me
A lot of those voters are on Medicare. They aren’t clued into the fact that Trump and a lot of his (real) base would love to completely gut Medicare and Social Security.
They’re so clueless they don’t even understand that Medicare is government run free insurance. I’ve literally heard people say things like “The government better keep their hands off my Medicare.”
I mean, Obamacare is pretty much a subsidy to the private healthcare industry. It should have been Medicare for all, but instead we got a watered down, rebranded Republican program.
And they still want to make it worse for us. For money.
I remember being told we loved them and we loved all the choices lol
My company gets a choice but I never did.
I never understood that argument and how people bought it.
GOP touted choice, you can choose your provider… But most everyone gets 1 choice, the one from work or nothing
Also then, choose your doctor… But you don’t, the INS company tells you what doctors you’re allowed to see.
There is no choice, there is no free market when it comes to health care, especially during emergencies… Call 911 for an ambulance, you don’t get to compare prices, you take the 1st one available… You are taken to emergency room, you don’t get time to compare services and pick a hospital, you’re taken to the closest one.
The only people who wanted private health care were the industry lobbyists and politicians who wanted to make rich people richer, and the ignorant and selfish citizens that preferred pissing off the libs and refusing care to poor/people of a different skin color.
Even today there are plenty who seem fine knowingly pissing away more of their paycheck and health security to make a rich industry richer than pay less to an evil government that would offer the same care - and the option to buy your own insurance on top of that.
Do they now?
Careful saying something like that in this community might get you banned
But have you thought about feelings of rich executives and their billionaire owners?
.world mods first three days of the celebration
Let’s be fair. I didn’t like the censorship either, but they backed off. Running an instance isn’t exactly a big money maker and they were afraid of getting sued or shut down somehow.
In the US slap suits are a thing. Not sure what the EU equivalent is. It is perfectly fair to not want to deal with one of any form.
All fair points but that’s not how they justified it.
Took them a hot minute to formulate their response.
Also, people were not doing anything improper everybody towed the line.
Cals for violence can be removed. They were nuked entire threads
I am not trying to justify any given stance. Just trying to point out that someone’s name is on the server/domain/etc and that powers that be may try to make an example out of you. It is also perfectly fair to not want to deal with that. Similar to the discussion around piracy sometime back. Its easy to be brave when you cannot be called out. I leave it to the rest of the forum to make their conclusions on the matters.
Publicly traded private health insurance that you can only get and “afford” through your ambivalent employer. What’s not to like?
Also Americans: anything else is a commie!
Yes. Of course. WHY DOES THIS EXIST!?!???!???
Gosh, whatever could we do about that?
We hate people who administer it even more but even those guys are just useful tools of the owner class.
Maybe depose was meant for them?
How is this news to anyone? No shit.
