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    Country wide outage at the corruption involved with the health insurance

    Health insurance industry: we can make it worse

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          It’s a pharmaceutical company. They’re no saints, but it’s disingenuous to compare them to people who take money and provide nothing but a rubber stamp.

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            Did everyone forget about scumbag Martin Shkreli who raised medication prices for no reason other than he wanted more money?

            “In September 2015, Shkreli was widely criticized when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the antiparasitic drug Daraprim and raised its price to insurance companies from $13.50 to $750.00 (USD) per pill.”

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              Martin worked at Retrophin and Turing Pharmaceuticals but mostly he was a hedge fund manager.

              Got nothing to do with Parker or Mangione.

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                Pfizer still got billions from the government and was allowed to patent Covid vaccines that we all fucking paid for.

                Also their dick pills are covered by insurance while meds my wife needs to make it through perimenopause aren’t.

                Pfuck them all. Drug companies are at least half the problem with US healthcare, look at what Perdue and the Sacklers did.

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                  Pfizer being allowed to patent Covid vaccines was a failure to govern, you should never have expected anything less than that from any company but rather you should expect more from your government.

                  Their pills being covered or not has nothing to do with the manufacturer. The entity who covers treatment made the decision.

                  Let’s make a hypothetical where all drug companies are as bad as Purdue, then we would have to get rid of them all. OH WAIT! Whats this? The Covid Vaccine never gets made? Nobody is working on the new H5N1 vaccine? Well, I guess we’ll just have to watch half of us die or be permanently disabled, lol. Organized medicine can’t be allowed, after all. /s

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            people who take money and provide nothing but a rubber stamp

            They don’t even do that. Their incentive is to deny coverage. They’re not healthcare insurance companies, they’re healthcare rationing companies. And we pay them.

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            The providers (hospitals, clinics, labs, doctor practices), insurers/payers (whether for profit like United, nonprofit like most Blue Cross Blue Shields, or government like Medicare), and pharmaceutical/medical device companies fight each other the whole time to make the most money off of the patients/beneficiaries/taxpayers. Big Pharma runs up prices and persuades doctors to prescribe their treatments, while doctors themselves have a profit motive in running up unnecessary treatments, all while insurers try not to pay for stuff, necessary or not.

            It’s a broken system, but it’s also worth pointing out that the scammers in each camp hate the other camps just as much as the public does. There are hospital execs and pharma execs basically cheering on the anger at insurers, who will turn around and rip off the same victims in a different way.

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              Your final point I think is out of focus. The scammers, which is to say most people at upper level positions in these companies, they just don’t respect human life at all, and they’ll take money wherever they can get it. It’s not a matter of hating people. They don’t respect people to begin with, so they have no need to hate them.

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                The scammers, which is to say most people at upper level positions in these companies, they just don’t respect human life at all, and they’ll take money wherever they can get it.

                I think a lot of the profiteers in this space believe their positions are important and improve health outcomes, and that what’s good for the world is good for the company. Pfizer will tell their investors that inventing a life saving drug (e.g., a COVID vaccine) will be good for health, and that the shareholder therefore deserve to make a hefty profit from it.

                Same with the hospital execs. They’ll pat each other on the back about how much good their hospital does, and see the very expensive billing department as an important function in their war against insurers.

                And actual scammers, who bill for services not actually rendered, order unnecessary procedures, and prescribe the drugs the pretty rep is pushing, tend not to think they’re doing anything wrong or that they’re not hurting people.

                People in each of these groups are saying in hushed tones that the insurance companies had it coming, and kinda sorta cheering the death of the United guy with their caveats (“well I’m not saying murder is OK but I’m not shedding tears,” etc.).

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              Yes and thats because the solution isnt to put different people in charge of the companies. The solution is to Regulate.

              The corruption is because we voters built the system to enable corruption. None of us are better than the executives or vice versa

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                You are right about human nature and the need to regulate, but us voters didn’t build shit. Crony capitalism and regulatory capture built our healthcare “system.”

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                  In 2010 there were 58 Democrats and they held a vote for Single Payer healthcare. Every Republican voted no. One Independent voted yes. It needed 60.

                  So what did voters do after that? Elect LESS DEMOCRATS EVERY ELECTION.

                  If that isn’t choosing this system, I don’t know what is.

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      They haven’t been since they got raked from COVID-19 and shutdowns tanking their stocks in 2020. So they price gouge with inflation and shrinkflation, keep prices high to make up the difference and fuck us over. Then they keep the prices artificially high, raising prices on entertainment, force people back to the office, and use those as talking points to tank democrat campaigns.

      They’ve been openly at war for the last 5-years or so. Just like Gaza, you can only trap people in misery for so long before they lose just enough to make it worth fighting back with violence. We’re on the cusp of that backlash and I have a feeling the next 4+ years are gonna see the blowup.

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    I knew they were going to try him in a kangaroo court, I just didn’t think they’d be this obvious about it.

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      The justice system probably assigned the judge randomly. It’s just finding a judge without wealth is impossible … which in and of itself is a problem.

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        what you expect from a country where judges in the highest court get bribed with “gifts” and “private” trips, while at the same time ignore “international laws” and threaten the most recognized court in the world. What you expect from a government and country that allow a rapist, felon, to be a president while enabling the killing of more than 30 000 kids and women (year old worst estimates).

        Such government will have no regards for it is own citizen and this is just the start of worse to come if people don’t step in.

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      That was the magistrate. Whether the trial will be biased is something we don’t know yet.

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    There were 24,849 homicides in 2022.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

    Almost none of them, if any, likely required a nationwide manhunt.

    Not one of them required an escort of 30 police officers plus a helicopter to the courtroom.

    As far as I can tell, none of them were charged with terrorism.

    And now he’s getting as biased a judge as he could possibly get.

    If we’re going to start charging murderers with terrorism, let’s start with the cops.

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    Rich people being shot means nature is healing ❤️

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    This is the sort of thing judges are supposed to recuse themselves over.

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    you people clearly don’t know what you are talking about. “conflict of interest” only happens if it conflicts the interests of billionaires

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    I would think it might be excusable if this were a straight-up murder charge, which is mostly facts and evidence based. However, if they’re charging him with terrorism, which is much more subjective, doesn’t that make this a serious conflict of interest?

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      No. It’s inexcusable. Even if he pooped on her lawn she should have no right to be legally judging him.

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      Can’t help but be biased here. The facts fit too well. Remember, bias has to do with the perception of poor judgment. We don’t need to gamble on it.