Seemingly confirming the theory that “Xbox” will just be Windows going forward, at least on handhelds.
I’m not a big Linux person, but the steam deck NOT being windows seems like a plus generally. >_>
I was using Lenovo’s handheld a few weeks before release and was really impressed by the specs until I turned it on and it was windows and I made an audible laugh. They were saying I had no idea what I was talking about and how windows was the future of handheld gaming. Which made me laugh some more, guess who’s making a SteamOS handheld now?
Anything Microsoft built lately is dogshit. They turned Windows into a steaming pile of shit over the past 20 years. When you think it can’t get any worse, they somehow raise the bar on disappointment.
No doubt it will be loaded with a shit ton of tracking/telemetry to build new datasets and train LLMs. Mining data from kids/teenagers and building those ad profiles early on is key.
Repairability will likely be shit as well.
Get fucked. After all the shit I’ve seen them pulling with Windows 11 they’ll never get a dime out of me again. I’ll ride my win 10 until it’s out of support then switch to Linux. Fuck monopolies, and fuck enshittification for profit.
Don’t wait till support ends, it will make the switch more stressfull
SteamOS for pc can’t come soon enough.
Steam already runs fine on Linux, you don’t need SteamOS to us the compatibility functionality, meaning anything you can play on the steamdeck already works on a Linux pc.
To add to this;
Playing modern Windows games on Linux and SteamOS is done using Wine and Proton. Wine is available on almost every Linux distro and Proton comes* with Steam.
*You can use Proton outside of Steam but it’s quite hacky and not really needed.
Amen. I’ll trust that until Gabe dies and of course some shithead takes his place and ruins the company
Just install Mint Cinnamon. It’s super approachable and Steam works great on it.
Why do you want SteamOS though? Unless you’re making a Steam Machine there are better options out there for desktop usage.
I plan to use zero patch until eol then go Linux. https://0patch.com/
Isn’t steam about to no longer support 10?
Pass.
Key quote:
Microsoft is looking at combining Xbox and Windows experiences together — and that we should see changes this very year, rather than needing to wait for an Xbox handheld that might still be years away
So there probably will be an xbox handheld, but don’t hold your breath. In the meantime they actually are a little worried about how much SteamOS is showing Windows up.
The best is none of either
No more windows please, I’m sick of it.
Are we getting another windows 8 without start menu again?
I think the opposite is gonna be the case
So… Are they selling a box full of hot air? That’s the best marketing stunt ever
Get an Xbox PC app for Steam Deck then, Microsoft.
I’m going to imagine Xbox would love to. But Microsoft is stopping them. They’d stop android and ios too if they still had windows phone.
You missed the part where Microsoft had better apps on Android and iOS during the W10M period. Satya never cared for Windows Phone once he became CEO.
So, some time ago I saw a video about Microsoft about how they had gotten their OS so bad that now nobody wants to use it by always going all in into the newest big thing (Vr and win 10 mixed reality, tablets and win 8) and i think the same is going to happen here. microsoft will try to make their whole OS just like steamOS, and fail hardly at both the normal consumers and the handheld market
They obviously mean steamOS haha
Nice, we can be submerged by notifications and other annoying popups on a handheld now.
It’s exactly what I needed.
Do you want to pin this useless app I’ve installed without your knowledge on your screen?
This doesn’t make any more sense than Windows phones made. They required way too many hardware resources and power to run a system that is designed to do a ton of things on a ton of different types of hardware. Handheld hardware needs specialized OS optimized for the platform and I doubt this will do that. It will likely have a ton of RAM and processing tied up in OS activities just like windows phones making everything slow and/or battery life really bad, but still not be able to run a lot of the stuff that would make this all worth it. Better to start with a more modular system like the base linux kernel and add only what is necessary than to start with the idea of supporting a ton of software and sacrificing the real purpose of the device (handheld gaming) to do it.
This holds true for other companies using windows on handhelds, but Microsoft has the windows source code. I think this means that there is potential for Microsoft to make a version of windows that really works efficiently, but they’d have to had learned their lesson from windows phones.
If that happens I’d be extremely surprised. They have been really against truly modularizing Windows because of the lack of documentation partly due to the push of “agile” methodologies mixing with top down feature pushes and the effort required to create something that would support Windows applications in a way that users would understand. There are also just too many applications out there that use too many features in unintended ways, including or especially their own.
