Good day! I am trying to find a good alternative as not to use the"smart" functions or using an Xbox to consume our media. I found a few options ie like plasma big screen but it’s no longer in development. Essentially I would line love to have it running on an rpi4 and just hooked up to the TV.
Currently I’m working on a Plasma Bigscreen build that still gives some privacy and 1080p Netflix/Disney+/Crunchyroll etc by using extensions/WebApps and getting S-Tube and other android apps (including tv web browser) via Waydroid + Flauncher, all controllable through a simple IR controller.
If you pm me I’ll set it as a reminder for when I finish to share the package. It’s designed for an Odroid C4.
As for dumb tvs or more privacy friendly tvs, you can find them if you know where to look. Here’s some options from LG:
https://www.lg.com/us/business/digital-signage
They had a dumb 65" 4k OLED too but it’s currently out of stock.
I find having the full OS is useful, and this KDE environment proves great https://plasma-bigscreen.org/
As of right now, Plasma Bigscreen isn’t available for public use yet.
This looks cool but having the shell feel good on a TV is one thing, having apps is another. If I open Firefox on theat thing, am I going to see the same app as I do on desktop… only 10 feet away? I immediately asked this after I saw VS Code in the screenshot there because what is the point in having an accessible 10 foot UI to use it to launch an app where I won’t be able to read the menus and navigate around in an accustomed fashion?
Thanks for reminding about this project! Had a look a year back and it looked quite green at the time. Any first hand experience, how did you install it?
The main issue for me is not finding a device to play content, but a dumb screen that is not a potatoe. A 4k HDR OLED Screen without any smart features is basically nowhere to be found
i got a good 55in LG oled screen, connected it to wifi and added a firewall rule to block its access to the internet because i hate how lg forces ads
i negated some of the privacy gains by having my “OS” be an apple TV that has internet access but im willing to live with it, since it allows easy remote access to my home assistant through HomeKit, plus the interface is nice and I have RetroArch installed on it, so yeah
You can replicate the same thing but switch the apple TV for a more private and adequate device for your needs
I won’t go back from OLED, but a good source none the less. Thanks
I also tried finding a dumb 4K TV some time ago and, yeah, they don’t exist. 4K TVs were a good tech that came out at the wrong time.
I guess there’s just not big enough of a market there to have a decent selection or reasonable prices.
Look into commercial displays. They’re dumb TV’s.
Do you need 4k oled?
yes, and next one should be 65"
A TV that isn’t connected to a network is a dumb screen.
not entirely,
dumb tv turns on in maybe up to 3s
while “smart” tv still needs more than 30s
so now you have crapiest dumb tv on your handsMy LG C2 which has never been connected to wifi starts up in maybe 3s. Boots right into my Applw TV and I never have to see LGs software
As others have suggested, OSMC is OK, but personally I prefer having Android so that I can use SmarttubeNext and access native apps for stuff like Jellyfin, Dropout, Nebula, etc. For years I played with various Linux options, but in the end I ditched it all for an Nvidia Shield and I couldn’t be happier with the results.
Is there an android box more powerful than Shield? I love my shield TV, but I wonder if it needs an upgrade in a year or two.
My parents bought Xiaomi TV box (could search for the exact name if anyone’s interested), which runs GoogleTV (Which is just AndroidTV, they renamed for some reason) and comes with a remote. It even has hardware acceleration for AV1 playback. Downside is of course that it has all the Google spying shit and ads in the home menu but at least it works well and you can use all the apps you want without issue. Idk if there’s something like LineageOS for AndroidTV, that would be great.
Idk if there’s something like LineageOS for AndroidTV, that would be great.
Agreed, I would love this.
OS ≠ user interface.
Use whatever OS that runs Kodi or some other user interface the best (with privacy also being considered to be best).
I literally have a rpi4 and just put libreELEC on it
Kodi is a great choice regardless of distro, whether that’s libreelec, osmc, or just regular Raspbian.
I installed Kodi on my RetroPie setup, and it works well.
Fwiw - I have both an LG C2 and a newer Samsung QLED. Neither have ever been connected to the internet, never pester me to connect, and the both turn on right to to my Apple TV
If Android is okay, I’d recommend the ONN 4K Pro player from Walmart (if located in the U.S.) with some privacy caveats:
- Do as little with Google: Make a throwaway login if Google requires one to get the device started up. Try to avoid Google Play Store as much as possible. If privacy from Google isn’t a concern, feel free to use your Google account to download apps from the Google Play Store.
- Learn how to sideload apps: There are multiple ways to do this, like a USB drive or FTP server.
- Pick an alternate launcher: This will replace the default Android TV OS UI with one that has much more flexability and no ads. FLauncher and Projectivity are ones that I recommend to friends.
The final product is a modern streaming device with much more flexability than any other store-bought device. Building a HTPC with Linux is probably the true self hosted option. Personally, I’m able to afford some privacy sacrifices with Google for something that “just works.”
The old software versions support Lineage OS. If you can find one that was unlocked before they broke unlocking you are in luck. If not Google is bad for privacy.
As others are saying, OSMC might work. Most difficult part is making it so that the TV turns on when you turn on the computer since ARC isn’t a thing for most computers.
I ended up giving up on OSMC and bought an Apple TV since nothing else got the “wife approval” factor. It’s better than Google getting my data, has a Plex client, and let’s me stream my Steam library.
The RPI has CEC support
My alternative is OSMC running on a RPI 3
It isn’t going to win any awards but it does work nicely with a Bluetooth remote
You could install android on something, and run one of the open source TV launchers
Is it any good?
I’ve done that and as long as you don’t need one of the mainstream streaming apps, it seemed to work well . Just give it a try. It’s not a lot of work.
Edit: As far as I remember it, it didn’t have (the needed?) DRM support
Edit2: Tested on RPi5
I don’t need or want DRM so I can’t comment on that.
What I can say is that the RPI5 is way overkill. I originally ran Kodi on a RPI4 but it was constantly running hot so I switched to a RPI3 and it is much better.
A laptop running linux mint.
