Especially for personal accounts.
I get why a corporation would require it for employees…
But I hate it when Apple, Samsung, etc. are forcing you to have 2fa, especially by requiring a phone number.
Side note: Bitwarden will be requiring email verification codes starting in February 2025, for those who haven’t enabled 2fa yet (see my Post in YSK). Most people store their email credentials in their password vault… so a lot of people are gonna get locked out of their bitwarden vaults. I kinda hate it, especially on such sort notice (less than 10 days).
In today’s world, MFA (multifactor authentication) is a necessity for literally any account in which you store information you don’t want to be stolen by someone. I’m more upset that several services I use still don’t support it, or only support MFA via text or email, neither of which is secure enough to be of much use.
You don’t want the place where you store your passwords, likely including your bank account, health insurance, social media accounts, etc. to be more difficult to hack? You live in a post-quantum world. Passwords aren’t enough.
This is the correct answer. MFA should be enforced for literally every account you have, and the method should be app-based or a hardware token.
It turns out that people en masse are lazy and will use the same simple password for all their accounts and then wonder how they got hacked. People in tech for the past 30 years or so struggled with the difference between theory and practice when it came to user psychology, and I am happy that we are finally starting to realize the user psychology aspect and just force them to be secure.
Disagree. So much money is lost because of simple password auth. Mandatory mfa fixes nearly all of it.
I hate it. It should be my choice. Not all of my accounts need to be super secure. It sucks enough already when my phone breaks or something I don’t need to be locked out of everything
This is something thats actually scary. Phones are so necessary now that when it breaks you could be digitially stranded, unable to log in to anything
I remember reading of a privacy-aware couple who were each others’ “backups” in case one lost access. Well, they lost their house in a fire, along with their personal backups, and their “backup person” couldn’t access their cloud backups either.
I’m an old-fashioned believer in the 3-2-1 -rule. Three copies of important data, two of them on different media, and one offsite. And make sure you can access all of them without the other two.
So like one password database on phone (even if it’s offline, like most password apps have); one on the computer (like you probably want for use too?), and one in the cloud without need of either device or anything onsite to unlock (in my case, I’ve set up Bitwarden emergency access to someone in another country, and have a second Yubikey with a more local friend).
Phone/SMS 2FA is a joke. You can tell which organizations need to be ditched.
Sure its deeply flawed in a bunch of ways, but it is miles better than nothing
Depending on the implementation, it’s better than nothing
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My small credit union with nine branches offers TOTP 2FA
I just hate it when the only 2fa option is my phone number.
This is an issue. I’ve been using Microsoft authenticator when I can.
While they are annoying unfortunately we live in a world where username+password is not enough for anything that has to be remotely secure.
I’m guilty of password reuse. I’m guilty of choosing weak passwords, my desktop computer has the password “1” because I had to set something.
I think it’s absolutely wild how archaic some systems are. And the worst offenders are those regulated by financial and medical industry laws. I have an account with one financial account that is protected only by password that is 12 characters max with special characters limited to just a few. I don’t know how they haven’t been breached and then sued into oblivion.
I’m fine with companies enforcing 2FA. Bitwarden is addressing the current weakest link in the chain: users.
Most of those banks just… pay the damages
I don’t have any intrinsic issue with 2FA, but via something like storing an OTP on a store I decide on, not if it involves needing to install Random Company’s app on a phone or provide a phone number.
Its fucking annoying that I need my phone surgically attached to me at all times, to do fucking anything on the internet, especially anything important.
This combined with constant logging out is driving me nuts, I truly only have one device that can actually log into everything, all my other devices are logged out so frequently theyre unusable.
Ever look into something like yubikey?
I get why 2FA is adopted so widely: companies need to cover they asses. Even if you don’t care if a hacker gets ahold of your password for a flash game website, that password leak could cause issues later on, and opens the website up to responsibility.
What really bothers me more, is that 2FA is relying so heavily on phone numbers, which is an extremely flawed security system. At least some of the larger companies are open to using authenticator apps, or sharing the private key for storing in a database. But so many websites do 2FA by “requiring a phone number”, which just puts a lot of security responsibility on the phone carrier now. The user doesn’t really gain any extra responsibility for having good opsec, because phone companies fuck up all the time and assign phone numbers to new sim cards all the time, often on concerningly small amounts of information
I dislike it. I already have a unique, long, randomly generated password for every account. That’s stored in a password manager with a unique, long passphrase. 2FA provides very little additional security in that scenario.
Worse, many services won’t let me use a standard TOTP authenticator. Some insist on SMS. Worse, some insist on their own app.
They been a disaster for the elder and homeless community. Many of them have no cell phone and only login once a week and 2fa makes it pretty much impossible for them.
It should be required everywhere.
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You don’t have to store 2fa in your password vault, and even then, you can enable 2fa for the vault. It’s just more secure. Be confident that your login info will be leaked sometime, somewhere. With 2fa you’re still safe.
I don’t have any issues with them. What I do take issue with is companies enforcing them with the assumption being you will use your own mobile device to authenticate for them. I feel like it’s not worth the stink to complain but both places I work for require 2fa now and I need the authenticator app or get a message to my phone.
I despise 2fa. I hate needing my phone within reach at all times, especially considering it’s a device I don’t own, I don’t have root on. There must be a better way.
