• sumguyonline@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    “The south shall rise again” but like as fat inbred Nazi’s is what really confuses me. Like, we nuked Japan, that can easily explain the weird hentai, but the south? They got a black eye then allowed back into the states to start doing Jim crowe shit… Of course we only know the approved history, the constitution was illegally altered during Ww2 and for all we know, had an addition that made what racist and Nazis are doing completely illegal, but since the constitution was changed there’s no one to enforce the actual law of the land. An no one in power seems to care

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      6 days ago

      Next time we hit them harder, leave some scars in their genes to remind their descendants the best way for us all is together.

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    8 days ago

    I don’t like Nazis as much as the next guy, but given a choice between beating up Nazis and getting laid, I think I’d prefer to get laid. Ya know, the whole “Make love not war” philosophy.

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      8 days ago

      Nazi or not there’s no shot I’d be able to kill people with a crowbar unless they are also actively trying to kill me

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        Irrelevant.

        You and your date enter said room with a crowbar apiece (I’m bringing a modded spade), and the roomful of fascists gathered there, what, just stand and meekly stare at you both? Get on the ball. Don’t let go of the crowbar, but cut everything else loose, citizen. Clock’s tickin’ and that fuckin’ you’re here for ain’t starting until the room’s freshly painted.

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        8 days ago

        So like 3,5 min for fighting and 3,5 for fucking? I’m almost 40, I can’t get it up in 3,5 minutes.

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          You a quick study on skulling fascists? Only 3.5 mins for a roomful seems like a walk-in closet at the most, but maybe you’ve been practicing for the big leagues. Commendable foresight, citizen.

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      8 days ago

      Well if you’re both in there together nobody says you have to leave the room immediately. So both?

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      7 days ago

      You’ve got no romance in your soul, you’ve got to woo her first by doing a couples activity. Also it’s good cardio.

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      7 days ago

      I’m not really for beating people up in general, unless it’s necessary.

      If possible, try and change their minds (it has been known to happen).

      Violently resist their attempts at capturing any sort of influence though, which is the point the US is at it seems.

      Nazi salute, straight to jail (which is what recently happened in a Victoria, Australia. A funny comparison to the US)

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-09/jacob-hersant-nazi-salute-sentence/104448256

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    8 days ago

    So… a room full of fascists against two individuals.

    To me, this implies they will either be drugged, to be impaired, or chained. Otherwise, the numbers win.

    I’m not a butcher. Criminals are to be dealt as such. Death is too short of sentence to be a punishment.

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      8 days ago

      Death is too short of sentence

      It’s a crowbar, not a flamethrower. Pick your targets, avoid the head and soft tissue/core areas. Have fun.

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        8 days ago

        You missed the sentence where I declare myself as not being a butcher.

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            Try this: fascists.

            The German National Party is no more.

            There is a difference between resorting to force to push down and cull the scum trying to topple the world and resorting to violence like they are, to butcher those they see as worthless, unfit, different.

            Force, not violence.

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              If they salute like a nazi then they are a nazi. Modeled after the German variety of fascism venerating Hitler etc. Neo-nazi would work I guess, but everything they’ve been doing is straight out of Hitler’s playbook so I feel comfortable using the term nazi.

              As for projection of force, you don’t really have any to project. Any resistance would need to be very asymmetric in nature ie high value targets using guerilla methods. I think the difference between force and violence is semantic and really only serves as a euphemism. Moreover you need to create a spectacle of violence. Luigi mangione didn’t use force.

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                That’s your prerrogative; I respect that. It won’t be small differences like those putting us on opposite corners.

                Will I call the act of Mangione as brutal? Yes. But it ended there. The guy did not went on a rampage, after the man’s family and others. So, it was a resort to force, not to violence.

                We’re seeing violence being enacted towards groups and individuals. Mass killings in Gaza, torture, starvation, exposure… that is violence.

                Going up against a group, even if well organized, by attacking and eliminating key figures, that’s force.

                Allow me a more down to earth example: you see an ICE raid mounting. You organize a group of neighbours, hold the cops at gun point, beat the lights out of them, in extremis, a few die, and warn them they are not to come back there.

                That’s force.

                You kill everyone, raid and destroy their station, go after their families and friends, and hit on sight every single agent.

                That’s violence.

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          Well then you don’t have a strong sense of survival or justice. That’s ok. You can weave baskets while I do it. Everybody has a place.

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            And now you are missing the part where I state that I will fight, both for me and others. I refuse to butcher others, like the criminals we are denouncing, not to fight them.

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              How is fighting for survival different than butchering people who would butcher you?

              Edit: to begin a better world you have to understand that your hands will have to get dirty not by choice but out of necessity to survive. Do you not have a survival instinct?

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                Here is the difference, in my view.

                I will fight fascist wherever I am met with them. I’ll denounce their ideals, call out their hatred and bigotry towards others, expose their crimes and atrocities. And I will fight them, to the risk of my own life, to defend others from them, if such need arises.

                I will not hide behind hollow rethoric to justify killing another human being. I will not persecute a fascist’s family or children, I will not execute fascists summarilly nor cruelly. I will not condone torture.

                I want justice. I want fascists arrested, put to trial, sentenced to prison and put to work to rebuild every little thing they destroyed, plowing fields to feed the hungry. I will not become worst than them in the process of getting rid of them.

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                  That’s absolutely a fair point. We have differing views on the subject. I’m of the opinion that people with evil intent have no business existing.

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                How does killing a bunch of them with crowbars begin a better world? Did that work the first time? It sounds to me like we’re trapped in a cycle.

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                  Who said anything about crowbars? Realistically there is no cycle. A cycle means there is some kind of return to normal. Well, our assumption of normal doesn’t exist anymore. Any idea of a future becomes cyberpunk at this point and your concept of a future will be sad, pathetic and relegated to slavery.

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      Fascists double down on their fascism in response to punishment. Dead fascists, preferably by natural causes of course, do not.

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        Not this new brand, the moment they’re actually forced to face consequences for their actions, they tend to shut up.

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          You know. You might be right.

          However, I think it’s best to test out both possibilities in a years-long experiment. Just to be sure.

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      In the flesh—or, rather, in the hazard suit. I took the liberty of relieving you of your weapons. Most of them were government property. As for the suit, I think you’ve earned it.

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      Better yet? Lose it in your friend’s car before they head off on a road trip. That way, all those modern stresses can be miiiiiles away while you focus on your new happy place for a little while.

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    There seem to be two very different approaches to being anti-nazi - the problem solvers who want to put them down like the vermin they are and move on, and the sociopaths who fantasize about violently acting out all their personal issues, with nazis being socially acceptable targets,

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    I’d bring my small box cutter, but I think a crowbar would be more effective. That, and I wouldn’t wanna waste a perfectly good box cutter on street trash.

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    Does the soundproofness allow you to do stealth kills? Cuz otherwise, crowbar or not, you’re probably gonna get overtaken by a room full of opponents, unless this is also happening in some sort of kung fu movie.