Tuberculosis has entered the chat.
And Campylobacter, Cryptosporidium, E. coli, Listeria, Brucella, Salmonella… It’s the Macy’s parade equivalent of preventable diseases by UHT and y’all been invited!
On the other hand, unrefrigerated raw milk is a fantastic way of meeting who’s who of the bacterial world.
For some people it’s the only culture they’ll ever have.
Yup
This post is stupid
I think there is confusion between raw milk, pasteurized milk and UHT milk. Only UHT milk doesn’t need to be refrigerated but it tastes horrible.
Only UHT milk doesn’t need to be refrigerated…
While it’s still sealed. Once opened, it needs to be refrigerated.
I’m that weird guy who prefers the cooked taste of UHT pasteurized milk.
Another weird UHT enjoyer here. If it weren’t so expensive where I’m at then I’d be having it more often
I hope it at least pleases you to know that in places where UHT milk is the norm, pasteurised milk is more expensive and sometimes simply not available. (I somewhat prefer that flavour)
Same
If I want that cooked flavor I open a can of evaporated (not condensed which has a lot of added sugar) milk. It’s yummy in coffee and any cooking/baking use.
There is decent UHT milk but it’s by no means the majority of the market.
There’s a reason the milk man used to deliver every day
To bang my mom?
Doesn’t raw milk have an even shorter shelf life?
Depends on how you look at it. Raw milk spoils at the same pace as [Edit: ultra-]pasteurized milk. Only for raw milk the counter starts ticking once the milk leaves the cow, whereas [Edit: ultra-]pasteurized milk remains sterile until you open the package.
Pasteurised doesn’t equal sterilised. Not sure ofcourse where you live since apparently that matters for this term since some places used pasteurised for what is double pasteurization and thermized for single pasteurization.
I know the pasteurised milk I buy will spoil in a matter of days, even if unopened. The only milk that will stay good unopened for months us UHT.
Thanks for the heads-up. I just checked the German Wikipedia article. Apparently there are several ‘levels’ of pasteurization ranging from 70°C through 150°C. Since I’ve only encountered the kill-all-that-has-ever-lived kind (UHT), I assumed that’s what everyone does.
So it doesn’t turn into yogurt?
My fridge isn’t full of raw milk or anything, but I think this goose is a better fit for the oven than guard duty.
Not sure if you’re joking but to make safe to eat yogurt, you’ll need to first kill the bad ones by heat, then cool it and once it is barren, you should invite the cool guys in like Lactobacillus bulgaricus, Streptococcus thermophilus, Lactobacillus acidophilus or Bifidobacterium lactis, they’ll need to be kept cosy and warm, and that will give you yogurt.
It’s a bit like making alcohol—it’s made through fermentation, but you want it to be very controlled.
Normally you’d want to sterilize the starting mix first to kill any undesired molds and bacteria, add the fermenting agent that you want (lactic acid producing bacteria in this case) and age it in a sealed container until ready.
If it starts with any contaminants or if any are introduced during fermentation, it’d spoil the batch and make you very sick if ingested.
regular milk also needs to be refrigerated tho
If your objective is to get sick then it needs to kept room in temperature.
So is having it raw in the first place.
Do you guys really drink milk? I don’t think I’ve had a glass of milk since I was like 14.
My family used to drink milk for dinner. We probably went through ten liters of milk in a week. The top third of the fridge was always reserved for milk.
When i moved out i continued doing this for a while or eating cornflakes in milk, but eventually stopped because my adult body is not that fond of digesting milk. I eat crazy amounts of cheese though, but the well cured one that are low on lactose.
I have 4 kids between 16 and 6. I buy 6x 3L bottles of milk at a time and it barely lasts a week.
I will have milk with things like cookies or chocolate cake. And milk is mandatory for Oreos.
I hate dipping cookies in milk. It doesn’t coat the cookie it just makes it sloppy. It might as well be water.
It adds to the creamy taste
it must for other people because people swear by it
For me though, it just tasted like I ran it under tap water.
Might be a patience thing too? Most cookies will take some time to really absorb a meaningful amount of milk. Like Oreos take a good 10 seconds submerged. You can see bubbles as milk replaces air in the cookie.
There are some rare cookies that will absorb the milk way faster, like Keebler Vienna Fingers will be soaked in like a couple of quick dunks.
Shitty milk tastes shitty. I have no understanding why schepps continues to exist. It’s like they have stripped everything that makes milk milk, and now just sell white water. I’m not a huge fan of Borden either, but that’s just a taste prefer. At least Borden is still milk.
People who drink 2% or 1% milk? WTF are you even doing with your life? Whole milk is only 3 or 3.5%, so how much fucking milk are you drinking that 1% less fat is going to save your life? Do you dip your cookies in that shit? Why do you hate yourself? Did you know that fat slows your digestion? By removing fat from your milk and cookies or milk and cereal you’re actually speeding up how fast the sugar hits your blood stream and increasing how concentrated it is going to be.
So, maybe you hate milk and cookies because you have been drinking shitty milk.
About 0,5L per day, yes
I like milk
It also goes into some of the food
I had oatmilk once at a vegan diner 6 years ago, and that was the end of me buying milk to drink. I only buy it now for baking/cooking.
Normally in tea and stuff, and with cereal
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Does it… help? with butt stuff?
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It’s a national drink in the Netherlands
Some do, some don’t. I don’t even have any idea how many people pour themselves a glass of milk.
I buy super small cartons when needed for baking or making ice cream.
Yes.
Same. It’s been at least 35 years since I drank a glass of cow juice.
This is such a dumb take. I don’t trust raw milk, but those that do aren’t arguing it won’t spoil at room temperature. Like, I support buying local, free-range chicken meat. But if someone came up to me and said “Oh yea? Well if you like chicken without antibiotics and preservatives, why do you still refrigerate it?!” I’d look at them like a fucking idiot.
other than a couple of weirdos, who is actually out there drinking raw milk?
Not trying to defend drinking raw milk but things do taste different at different temperatures.
