I’m amazed no one has pointed out the possibility that this was staged by Putin himself as a prerequisite to enforce greater surveillance, military and police presence, claim opposition and Ukraine to be terrorists, and so on. This is, besides a malfunction, much more likely than a failed assassination attempt that went this badly, doesn’t have a suspect, and got reported on.
We can rule out a Ukrainian assassination attempt. They have a pretty good track record of success.
We’ll know if it’s a false flag if Putin immediately freaks out and increases his personal security or suddenly relocates to one of his bitch bunkers.
They have a pretty good track record of success.
I mean, it wouldn’t do to advertise failed attempts. And honestly, even if this was a failed Ukrainian assassination attempt, the fact that they legit blew putin’s limo up is kind of huge.
Honestly I though putin already spent 90% of his time in a bitch bunker. Ukraine has already demonstrated the capability of striking Moscow and beyond, long ago, several times over.
I know he has bounced between them (he has multiple) but who knows where he is at any given time.
Why would he need a reason though? Couldn’t he just do that at any time?
it’s easier if there’s plausible deniability.
Maybe. I don’t know what it’s like in Russia at all.
He absolutely could
I watched live on reddit while two comments that said basically the same as you were nuked by the admins, not even mods
He’s not an all-powerful FSB god. Just another Gaddafi, always mere hours away from sudden gruesome death.
When has it ever happened in history for a dictator to stage an assassnation or coup attempt on himself? They always sell the image that they are forever beloved and wanted to be in power by everyone.
why would he tell people that the people around him and closest to him dislike him and want him dead? This is the complete opposite of what every dictator fears to unveal. His gaurds are already under heavy paranioa. Now he openly tells everyone it’s your chance to take me out because no one likes me?
If he wanted to blame ukraine ,it’d have been a lot cheaper and more believable if he just let a drone hit his palace.
A malfunction of a $300,000 car engine overheating in cold weather is more believable , but realistically no. He’s is too old and has dragged his country’s economy and people lives to ruins. He is nothing but an ego at this point and does not take many decisions. This is why I’m %100 positive that not much will change in Russia after his death.
Not a failed assassination, but a warning maybe? His health issues have been in the news lately, his “special operation” is wayyyy over-budget… someone’s making him look more vulnerable. Who though??? That’s my dumb conspiracy; he’s losing power and someone’s been waiting to fill that vacuum. Corporate-takeover style? Idk, I’m just riffing
His health issues have been in the news lately
His health issues have been in the news for like two decades. There’s always another new article on how he has severe health problems and will die anytime soon. He’s been terminally ill and dying since the millennium panic
bro why do you think he started the war
Now they’re getting it - blow up putin - end of war and Ukraine prevails. Also, trump and his entire criminal organization no longer have the backing and deviousness of putin and fail. America wins. The world wins.
Let’s not miss next time, okay?
Blowing up Putin would be nice but it’s not a guarantee the war would end. It would lead to a power struggle in the Kremlin, no doubt, but there are loads of hawks in that regime and many are much more extreme than even Putin.
Of course, a more extreme war hawk might end up benefitting Ukraine by hastening the collapse of Russia. Or it might lead to nuclear war. It’s really hard to predict exactly what will happen.
This sounds like classic Democrat excuse for inaction.
Those Ukrainian Democrats are known for inaction actually
Non-existence has that tendency
is Putin dead yet? dude’s old. somebody oughta smack him with a skateboard,
edit; comments suggesting some sort of violence against Putin tend to elicit a positive reaction.
curious!? fuckin “change my mind” meme guy has notes, but he might busy abusing his partner
Much like Sadam before him, he has a number of body doubles so even if it did appear he was assassinated in public, probably get some story about a miraculous rescue and recovery if acknowledged ‘Putin’ was in the area at all.
it’s so tedious. Putin, Orban, Trump, Bolsonaro, just an endless stream of vacuous cartoon characters
Need more Luigi’s
For me the tedious part is not the vacuous character but the people who vote for them.
easy problem to fix, just dismantle all the education
Dismantling education is exactly how we got here.
man i love voucher-fed education so much. i rented a house that was owned by an obscure religious group with ties to some old-school women’s suffragist AND super gross racism. they had their little private elementary school right next door and me? wouldn’t a hurt a fly, well, might hurt a fly - all these fucks obsessed with biblical morality checked me out via google, and there’s not much to learn that way
“I’m not a fan of his politics or anything, but there’s no excuse for attacking other people’s property.” - US conservative “opinion”
Sounds more like a centrist to me.
That’s the Mantra of a liberal I’ve ever heard one
once again, i am at odds with lemmy’s definition of “liberal”.
No that’s the actual definition of the word liberal. We got 300 plus years of liberal history to point to. It’s always the same song and dance. Nothing matters more than private property and Law and Order to a liberal. Everything else will be thrown away in favor of those two things. Every. Single. Time.
Hell it’s the original sin of our nation. The great liberal thinkers of the American Revolution. Jefferson and Madison and all the rest. What happened when it came time to fulfill their ideals? What happened when it came time to treat all men equal? Oh we can’t have that if we free the slaves we would be upsetting the order of things and depriving men of their private property. Once you understand that complete and utter Ironclad rule of liberal ideology you’ll understand how the last 300 plus years of human history have played out.
Personal liberty seems like a minimum standard. I should be able to do anything so long as my actions have no impact on anyone or anything else.
The problems start when these liberties overlap so conplex rules of law are required.
Actual =/= original.
Linguistic prescriptiveness is completely useless in terms of what those terms mean in politics now.
No that’s just a lie you’ve been sold. The behavior still matches. That’s what the last 40 years have been. The neoliberal Takeover of the Democratic Party. I mean you really look at Chuck Schumer and think that labels no longer accurate? Really?
No that’s just a lie you’ve been sold.
No it’s a fact I know because I understand linguistics. Pick up a book sometime.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_description#Descriptive_versus_prescriptive_linguistics
Better luck next time.
Man, when (when, not if) Putin dies eastern Europe is going to have a weeeeird power vacuum
power vacuum
That’s a strange way to spell “block party.”
Pretty sure it’s “when” for everyone.
Sooner better than later for this guy though
If he wasn’t in it then I don’t care
could’ve been a message more than an attack
“We’ve been trying to contact you about your car’s extended warranty”
1 day after the warranty expires, it just randomly bursts into flames….
great. so, fucking nothing?
maybe ukraine saying if you’re going to fight dirty then we will…
or maybe it was to make it look like they could get close to him, but it was one of many cars and just parked outside for service or something….
or maybe they just missed….
Captured image from the video shows that the hood of the engine compartment had been warped. This means there had been an explosion :
full video :
. here :
https://www.the-sun.com/news/13897148/putin-limo-exploded-fire-paranoid/What kind of low rent dictator has to park on the street?
“The attack on my life has left me scarred” 🤣
There’s a high chance that the car is just shit… would be nice if it was an actual assassination attempt but honestly who knows.
It’s an Aurus, a Russian luxury brand. Knowing Russian automotive engineering, I’m sure the only part that works properly is the engine, which was developed with help from Porsche.
I’d rather that he lives to see all his sick imperial dreams crushed.
You know what, I’d be happy either way!
He will die of illness before the world finally turns on him
Now that our government is his closest ally, his sick imperial dreams will live long beyond his vile life
Nah, Finland and Sweden joining NATO and Russia burning up almost all of its Soviet horde mean russia is pretty much done for as a major military power. They can sneak little bites of their unallied neighbors but they will never be the world’s second strongest military again.
He literally now has the largest military by at least twofold backing him
How do none of you realize how dangerous drumpf’s replacement of the top military brass was. All you did was meme and now he will bend our entire nation to propping up his russ crush
Yes because memes were the real problem here with the world. Bravo on solving it.
Replacing a few people at the top doesn’t mean that much. The Senate is still wildly against Russia.
I don’t think that’s going to matter much once he declares martial law in april
Keep fighting! Freedom fighters are the heroes of our times.
You have one job!
Damn so close. I’m sure there’s plenty of Russian civilians who have lost their sons who want to see that man dead
Finger crossed
