Bizzare. Americans are seriously crazy. It’s a monarchy really, it’s so in your face, like a bad comedy.
We are dumb and crazy a bad mix.
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It’s a monarchy really
Yes, this is actually a much more helpful way to think about Trump’s approach to presidency. Here is Dr David Smith from the United States Studies Centre explaining this in a recent episode of PEP (excellent in-depth American politics podcast from Australia).
No, it’s just that the south hates everything about the rest of America, and have done since we took their slaves away
They support anything that hurts everyone else, or as they call it: ‘Owning the libs’.
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But what if he runs for office? Then he can’t be convicted, right?
Start the campaign now for President in 2256. Wouldn’t want the judges to look politically biased, they’ll have to hold off on sentencing until after the election.
Maybe we should put the prosecutors to death instead.
Obligatory, I do not condone violence per lemmys rules, or whatever.
Agreed. This might be the only method to save us. Rule of law doesn’t work, we are owned by the billionaire class. Bring out the guillotines for these bootlickers. Might be the only way we get free.
Free Luigi.
Fuck this aryan Pam bondi cunt and these prosecutors.
I’m still waiting for people to get mad enough to use drones for political violence. Like shit, Ukraine can make an effective FPV for like 50 USD from what I’ve seen
Imagine if Luigi dropped a grenade on this dude while just sitting in Central Park.
It’s gonna be a good time.
I kind of hope that will have the bonus effect of making the ownership class ease up on return-to-office. Sure, have your executive meeting in-person. Oh shit, someone flew a drone in and it exploded, shooting nails everywhere and killing half the c-suite? Shit. Anyway. We’ll be working from home until at least they clear the blood out of the carpets.
(Though realistically, they’d make workers go in physically while being remote themselves. But maybe someone will bomb their house. No mercy for the ultra-rich.)
Drone warfare is politically agnostic. If it can be used by a Luigi against a healthcare CEO, it can be used by far-right extremists against progressive politicians, pride parades, or Black churches. I’m not very jazzed to live in the world of Slaughterbots.
Not to mention, the minute it happens, the government will carpet the skies with observation drones in the name of safety
Maybe, but honestly there isn’t too much a need for them to thanks to the existence of things like TLO. Maybe for surveillance over less developed areas?
Idk I’m not happy about any of this but it’s interesting to speculate what a modern day cyberpunk is going to look like.
That’s fair, there’s other angles of observation made available already.
Seeing as you like speculating about cyberpunk, how about if observation is just the initial way to way to sell the drone cloud? Depending on how cheap you can make them, there’s an argument to made for reducing time-to-intercept for low-speed aerial objects.
If you’ve got a bunch of drones overhead already, you could run one in to the path of a kamikaze drone, or if your swarm is even lightly armed, you can extend engagement range and reduce required accuracy with a single buckshot shell to shoot an offending drone down.
If you’re content to prioritize executive safety over public saftey, there’s a lot that can be done.
Drone displays terrify me.
How about if observation is just the initial way to way to sell the drone cloud? Depending on how cheap you can make them, there’s an argument to made for reducing time-to-intercept for low-speed aerial objects. If you’re content to prioritize executive safety over public saftey, there’s a lot that can be done.
This isn’t something I’ve ever considered, I hate it! 🤣 Essentially a light weight, personal, iron dome. Considering the great lengths Putin goes through to protect himself from his own military, I could see the mango and friends doing this.
Hell imagine if they made the drone cloud then took Israel’s “Gospel”, slapped that into them and create a full blown Big brother. Sure it just recommends targets now, but with more training from two fascist states it could become something much worse.
I hate this timeline.
I feel with that interpretation, any weapon is politically agnostic. Which I’d agree with given the use of firearms by far right extremists to shoot up Walmarts, clubs, and churches. They’ve already been using weapons against their “adversaries” like the domestic terrorists they are.
But agreed, I’m not actually excited about it. The premise is horrifying. I do hope the good guys pull the trigger first on this one. It’s, in my opinion, the logical next step.
Oh, we’re not supposed to condone violence against monsters who hurt others for greed here either? Well, dang. What if I do though?
Think of the lemmy.world mods!!!
This should like… just not be a rule though. Why can’t we wish for violence against evil people? Who is coming after the Lemmy instances if users wish for violence against evil people? It’s not like we’re actively organizing simply by saying we like imagining healthcare CEOs having their brains removed via bullet. And boy how do I!
This should like… just not be a rule though
Eh it’s issues with l.w mods being overall cowards.
Technically it’s not a rule of Lemmy but the instance rules that forbid this.
We are indeed owned by the billionaire class. It’s their country. We live in it.
*We are granted the privilege of surviving in it
Ftfy
Evidently this researcher found that peaceful resistance movements have been more successful in bringing democratic governments in their nations against tyranny than violent ones that usually instilled more extreme governments.
Storm the Bastille
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That’s neither a funny joke nor a serious idea of any worth.
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https://beyondcourts.org/sites/default/files/2022-07/Jury-Nullification-Toolkit-English_0.pdf
Everyone should read about jury nullification and spread it everywhere.
You know they’ll disqualify anyone who might even hint at knowledge of jury nullification from the jury pool. They’ll be selected on their ability to convict solely.
Then they’ll need the knowledge and a decent poker face 🤷
Now you’re asking them to commit perjury - which is also bad. (In case anyone reads this and decides to try their best poker face)
Now you’re asking them to commit perjury - which is also bad.
Only if they get caught and punished for it. Laws exist to discourage bad behavior, which lying in service of justice isn’t, so in this case breaking the law is the morally correct thing to do.
Like shooting a billionaire or the CEO of a predatory corporation.
Sure, whatever, but lying under oath during the jury selection process is a crime called perjury. Morale correctness aside, I’m just trying to keep folks out of jail my dude.
Wait. They have to swear an oath that they don’t know shit about the legal system?
No, you swear an oath to answer honestly during the jury selection process. The lawyers will ask if you have any moral or ethical concerns that would prevent you from convicting the accused - ie you would be willing to engage in jury nullification. If you say no, but you actually do intend to nullify, then you lied under oath and could be found guilty of perjury at that point.
Thats why EVERYONE needs to know it. You can’t disqualify everyone.
You want martyrs?? 'Cause that’s how you get martyrs!
Saint Luigi Mangione
Have you seen how long it takes someone to get through death row? If convicted, he will sit for 20 years. Far far beyond the current political discourse.
If he gets convicted, that will be a stink for a while. But by the time they kill him, he will be a distant memory.
Martyrs die when the timing is optimal. If it isnt the right time, they are just a name on a gravestone. And we have plenty of those.
Trump has actually speeded up the process through executive orders
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You want martyrs??
I mean, yeah that’d be cool. What else do we have at this point
Evidently Pam Bondi has financial lobbyist interests for the GEO group. They own a bunch of private prisons and mental health facilities.
I wonder if we could get creative to bring down the profits of this group in retaliation of her idiotic direction.
I would love to be a juror in this case.
Same
Nullify.
This administration is too stupid to realize they’re sitting on a powder keg? By all means light the match……let’s see what happens
My current tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory is that’s exactly what they’re banking on. They’ll draw the trial out until right before the midterm election… Then Trump will use the resulting riots to declare martial law and cancel the upcoming midterms, so he doesn’t lose control of congress. After he has cancelled the election, he’ll make a final push to clean house, and will start ousting liberal congress members by accusing them of being riot conspirators.
The Mangione Riots will be Trump’s Reichstag Fire.
Not if y’all aren’t bitches about it.
It’s not that far fetched.
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They’re not smart people. This would require the ability to critically think and reason with facts. They’re brainwashed by the billionaire backed right wing propaganda machine. Women/brown people=bad. Billionaires/White Men =good
That’s seems pretty damn ballsy of them since unless they are extremely confident in the jury selection it’s practically guaranteed to result in a hung jury if they know that finding him guilty will result in the most severe verdict.
I’m sure that will be as corrupt as everything else this administration touches
Yeah there’s no better reason to use jury nullification than when government wants to kill a guy for political reasons.
Federal juries are way, way easier to tilt towards the prosecution, and the judge has far more power, even assuming he isn’t a Trump appointee.
They can’t even prove he did it
Nobody did it, the guys head just did that.
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Exactly, he had spontaneous lead spawn pop up inside him. Happens every day to assholes
They wanna make martyrs now?
Even if the actual killer stuck again, hitting another CEO and then confessed on live TV for both murders, people would still think (and I can say the name here) that Luigi is guilty.
Y’all are mental across the pond
Yup, they got the wrong guy.
Wow. There’s a huge disparity between the brows on those two. No matter how blurry the first pics are, the thickness of Luigi’s brows would be noticeable. The person in that camera footage definitely doesn’t have thick eyebrows like Luigi :/
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What’s this?
Spot the monobrow?
When was the bottom photo taken?
Right After he grew his brows out and got a tan and a different nose.
Ah yes, the “different nose” which is mostly obscured in the top photos and has a giant red circle covering it in the bottom photo.
Oh I apologize, sometimes its hard to see when things are pointed out for you.
Ah, so the monobrow photo is after the security cam photos. How interesting that you tried to avoid telling me this the first time around.
So sorry, I hadn’t realized you have oxygen deprivation from breathing through your anus.
Not at all surprising and it wouldn’t have been any different under the last administration. From the whole “rule of law” perspective you can’t really not go after somebody who committed premeditated murder on film just because his target was someone that people didn’t like. What the jurors decide to do is a whole different can of worms (although if you ask me to make a prediction, I think they most likely find him guilty).
The previous administration probably wouldn’t take on a random murder case just because the victim was rich.
This was a high profile case that was all over the news for weeks. And frankly it looks like a slam dunk for the prosecution. The Biden Justice Department absolutely would’ve brought federal charges.
Can you imagine Merrick Garland saying this?
Luigi Mangione’s murder of Brian Thompson — an innocent man and father of two young children — was a premeditated, cold-blooded assassination that shocked America,"
“After careful consideration, I have directed federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty in this case as we carry out President Trump’s agenda to stop violent crime and Make America Safe Again.”
The first part? Abso-fucking-lutely.
Agreed. Biden LOVED bloodying his hands.
Shocked is a strange way to say excited
The administration doesn’t have anything to do with this.
Not sure how you figure that. Trump is not exactly hands off with the Justice Department.
They are going to give him a laptop, right?!?
