They wanna make martyrs now?
They can’t even prove he did it
Nobody did it, the guys head just did that.
This administration is too stupid to realize they’re sitting on a powder keg? By all means light the match……let’s see what happens
My current tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory is that’s exactly what they’re banking on. They’ll draw the trial out until right before the midterm election… Then Trump will use the resulting riots to declare martial law and cancel the upcoming midterms, so he doesn’t lose control of congress. After he has cancelled the election, he’ll make a final push to clean house, and will start ousting liberal congress members by accusing them of being riot conspirators.
The Mangione Riots will be Trump’s Reichstag Fire.
Not if y’all aren’t bitches about it.
It’s not that far fetched.
But what if he runs for office? Then he can’t be convicted, right?
Start the campaign now for President in 2256. Wouldn’t want the judges to look politically biased, they’ll have to hold off on sentencing until after the election.
Evidently Pam Bondi has financial lobbyist interests for the GEO group. They own a bunch of private prisons and mental health facilities.
I wonder if we could get creative to bring down the profits of this group in retaliation of her idiotic direction.
Bizzare. Americans are seriously crazy. It’s a monarchy really, it’s so in your face, like a bad comedy.
It’s a monarchy really
Yes, this is actually a much more helpful way to think about Trump’s approach to presidency. Here is Dr David Smith from the United States Studies Centre explaining this in a recent episode of PEP (excellent in-depth American politics podcast from Australia).
We are dumb and crazy a bad mix.
Way to downplay what’s at stake, it’s sadistic, psychopathic and cruel.
No, it’s just that the south hates everything about the rest of America, and have done since we took their slaves away
They support anything that hurts everyone else, or as they call it: ‘Owning the libs’.
https://beyondcourts.org/sites/default/files/2022-07/Jury-Nullification-Toolkit-English_0.pdf
Everyone should read about jury nullification and spread it everywhere.
You know they’ll disqualify anyone who might even hint at knowledge of jury nullification from the jury pool. They’ll be selected on their ability to convict solely.
Thats why EVERYONE needs to know it. You can’t disqualify everyone.
Then they’ll need the knowledge and a decent poker face 🤷
Now you’re asking them to commit perjury - which is also bad. (In case anyone reads this and decides to try their best poker face)
Wait. They have to swear an oath that they don’t know shit about the legal system?
Now you’re asking them to commit perjury - which is also bad.
Only if they get caught and punished for it. Laws exist to discourage bad behavior, which lying in service of justice isn’t, so in this case breaking the law is the morally correct thing to do.
Like shooting a billionaire or the CEO of a predatory corporation.
Sure, whatever, but lying under oath during the jury selection process is a crime called perjury. Morale correctness aside, I’m just trying to keep folks out of jail my dude.
You want martyrs?? 'Cause that’s how you get martyrs!
Have you seen how long it takes someone to get through death row? If convicted, he will sit for 20 years. Far far beyond the current political discourse.
If he gets convicted, that will be a stink for a while. But by the time they kill him, he will be a distant memory.
Martyrs die when the timing is optimal. If it isnt the right time, they are just a name on a gravestone. And we have plenty of those.
Trump has actually speeded up the process through executive orders
Saint Luigi Mangione
nah we already have sanders and aoc it’s enough, we still want to conserve decorum /s
You want martyrs??
I mean, yeah that’d be cool. What else do we have at this point
That’s seems pretty damn ballsy of them since unless they are extremely confident in the jury selection it’s practically guaranteed to result in a hung jury if they know that finding him guilty will result in the most severe verdict.
Yeah there’s no better reason to use jury nullification than when government wants to kill a guy for political reasons.
I’m sure that will be as corrupt as everything else this administration touches
Federal juries are way, way easier to tilt towards the prosecution, and the judge has far more power, even assuming he isn’t a Trump appointee.
Maybe we should put the prosecutors to death instead.
Storm the Bastille
Obligatory, I do not condone violence per lemmys rules, or whatever.
Agreed. This might be the only method to save us. Rule of law doesn’t work, we are owned by the billionaire class. Bring out the guillotines for these bootlickers. Might be the only way we get free.
Free Luigi.
Fuck this aryan Pam bondi cunt and these prosecutors.
Oh, we’re not supposed to condone violence against monsters who hurt others for greed here either? Well, dang. What if I do though?
Think of the lemmy.world mods!!!
This should like… just not be a rule though. Why can’t we wish for violence against evil people? Who is coming after the Lemmy instances if users wish for violence against evil people? It’s not like we’re actively organizing simply by saying we like imagining healthcare CEOs having their brains removed via bullet. And boy how do I!
I’m still waiting for people to get mad enough to use drones for political violence. Like shit, Ukraine can make an effective FPV for like 50 USD from what I’ve seen
Imagine if Luigi dropped a grenade on this dude while just sitting in Central Park.
It’s gonna be a good time.
Drone warfare is politically agnostic. If it can be used by a Luigi against a healthcare CEO, it can be used by far-right extremists against progressive politicians, pride parades, or Black churches. I’m not very jazzed to live in the world of Slaughterbots.
Not to mention, the minute it happens, the government will carpet the skies with observation drones in the name of safety
Maybe, but honestly there isn’t too much a need for them to thanks to the existence of things like TLO. Maybe for surveillance over less developed areas?
Idk I’m not happy about any of this but it’s interesting to speculate what a modern day cyberpunk is going to look like.
I feel with that interpretation, any weapon is politically agnostic. Which I’d agree with given the use of firearms by far right extremists to shoot up Walmarts, clubs, and churches. They’ve already been using weapons against their “adversaries” like the domestic terrorists they are.
But agreed, I’m not actually excited about it. The premise is horrifying. I do hope the good guys pull the trigger first on this one. It’s, in my opinion, the logical next step.
I kind of hope that will have the bonus effect of making the ownership class ease up on return-to-office. Sure, have your executive meeting in-person. Oh shit, someone flew a drone in and it exploded, shooting nails everywhere and killing half the c-suite? Shit. Anyway. We’ll be working from home until at least they clear the blood out of the carpets.
(Though realistically, they’d make workers go in physically while being remote themselves. But maybe someone will bomb their house. No mercy for the ultra-rich.)
Technically it’s not a rule of Lemmy but the instance rules that forbid this.
We are indeed owned by the billionaire class. It’s their country. We live in it.
*We are granted the privilege of surviving in it
Ftfy
Evidently this researcher found that peaceful resistance movements have been more successful in bringing democratic governments in their nations against tyranny than violent ones that usually instilled more extreme governments.
That’s neither a funny joke nor a serious idea of any worth.
fbi agent spotted
I would love to be a juror in this case.
Same
They are going to give him a laptop, right?!?
Nullify.
Can’t wait to passively observe this so go down.
Not at all surprising and it wouldn’t have been any different under the last administration. From the whole “rule of law” perspective you can’t really not go after somebody who committed premeditated murder on film just because his target was someone that people didn’t like. What the jurors decide to do is a whole different can of worms (although if you ask me to make a prediction, I think they most likely find him guilty).
The previous administration probably wouldn’t take on a random murder case just because the victim was rich.
This was a high profile case that was all over the news for weeks. And frankly it looks like a slam dunk for the prosecution. The Biden Justice Department absolutely would’ve brought federal charges.
Can you imagine Merrick Garland saying this?
Luigi Mangione’s murder of Brian Thompson — an innocent man and father of two young children — was a premeditated, cold-blooded assassination that shocked America,"
“After careful consideration, I have directed federal prosecutors to seek the death penalty in this case as we carry out President Trump’s agenda to stop violent crime and Make America Safe Again.”
The first part? Abso-fucking-lutely.
Agreed. Biden LOVED bloodying his hands.
Shocked is a strange way to say excited
The administration doesn’t have anything to do with this.
Not sure how you figure that. Trump is not exactly hands off with the Justice Department.
