• potoo22@programming.dev
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    I think more people need to approach it like this. Human’s minds are designed to think with their group and resistant to change. If you actually want to change minds, insults and accusations will immediately put them into fight mode and they will defend their ideology. But if you don’t attack their ideals and approach in a friendly kind of way, it will lead them to questioning their leader’s choices. It’s hard, I know. Their leader has made some shoot-themselves-in-the-foot choices and makes their conviction an easy target to attack. Insults and attacks may even be a way of letting off steam, but if you actually want change, it has to be a smart and kinder approach. It won’t be an immediate change, but it will be gradual and large over time.

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      We tried being reasonable for decades and that didn’t work becsuse they want to believe the propaganda they comsume. We won’t win them over by being kinder. That only works on reasonable people who care about facts.

      They can go fuck themselves.

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        You’re not wrong, “Being reasonable” can be saying “you are wrong! And here’s why…” and as you said, that doesn’t work. And kindness doesn’t work either. I suggest we be less confrontational when trying to help them understand other views. It’s hard and nuisanced. It’s like saying “I’m not against you, but you’re choices and support are not working the way you think they are”, but in a clever way that isn’t so obvious.

        Yeah, fuck these guys that are trampling over human right… but like, I also would like change to happen. Being reasonable and kind isn’t working. Neither is aggression.

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        And this attitude will only continue to cement their position against reason…congrats, you have fucked yourself

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            3 days ago

            Inviting the individual while painting them all with a broad brush is not helpful. Individuals can be reached.

            You’re right. Addressing the group doesn’t work. So stop doing that.

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          Well, i mean, someone has to and i have no other applicants, at the moment.