Oh another one of “me saying things doesn’t mean anything, you can’t deduce I meant something just because I said it!”
No, it’s “you can’t just unilaterally decide that I actually mean the opposite of what I’m saying.”
I’m not.
Youare.
Oh, for real? Well, if you’ve already decided what I mean, then by all means, don’t let me distract you with reality.
you’re pretending to be a pseudointellectuel
No, I’m definitely a pseudointellectual.
while missing the actual issues shoved down your face, because you lack understanding and your ego is 3 sizes too big for your skills
I have yet to see you actually respond to the points I’ve actually made, only points you think I’ve made, so I’m not sure how you have enough data to determine that I “lack understanding.”
Exactly like I said. A pretentious pseudointellectuel and I’m not gonna teach you history. Do some desperate googling and then become ashamed
I don’t know what to tell you, bro. We have twelve hours because the ancient Egyptians liked the stars. That’s just reality. I’d love to hear why you think it is, though.
Again, units and numbers have no inherent meaning
Again, they literally have INHERENT meaning.
Send me your address I’ll order you a dictionary
Before you send it, I recommend you look up the word “context.”
You don’t understand the fundamental flaw in the system, but like I said, I’m not gonna be lecturing you, I’d rather watch you make a moron of yourself and maybe, maybe point out later what I’m talking about.
So, again, no actual argument, you’re just hoping to keep this going for long enough to come up with one.
You talk to me of word salad while you’re some pseudointellectual 14-year old twerp repeating these sad sixth grade history facts as some unbelievably arcane knowledge while not understanding the fundamental flaw in the whole system.
I didn’t think there’s anything arcane about something that can be easily found in a history book. But thanks for assuming I’m 14, that’s very kind of you. I haven’t been assumed to be that young in a long, long time.
You know, just because your short term memory is only ten seconds long, there’s no need to rewrite the whole conversation everytime.
Or did you never develop object permanence and you literally can’t answer a thing if it’s not under your eyes, because you’ll forget it exists?
No, it’s “you can’t just unilaterally decide that I actually mean the opposite of what I’m saying.”
When you’re saying hot is cold and up is down, I haven’t decided that your words mean the opposite. You’re just wrong.
Noon, midday or the number of hours is anything but arbitrary. You being ignorant of the reason doesn’t make you right, it makes you ignorant. Notice anything about the divisibility of the numbers? No…? Oh right, you’re probably American, so that’s probably offensive to ask you about your maths skills. Apologies, I do understand your country is going through a tough time.
I don’t decide the meaning of your words. The world sort of does.
I don’t know what to tell you, bro. We have twelve hours because the ancient Egyptians liked the stars. That’s just reality. I’d love to hear why you think it is, though.
Like I said, I’m not your history teacher, and you are just completely ignorant of the subject. You have to know how dumb you are though, but your ego just keeps ripping right through.
See I could teach you. Then you’d pretend you knew it all the time. You’re just a pseudointellectual lazy piece of shit who doesn’t know the first thing about the subject and didn’t even click “timekeeping in other cultures” when he did his pathetic Wikipedia browsing. Which is exactly why you insist on your silly kittle ignorance.
You’re plain wrong. I will tell you eventually how badly, but now I’m just gonna sip on your dumb juice. So sweet.
Oh I haven’t argued you at any point, and would never. I’d have an easier time teaching a dog to whistle, lol.
You know, just because your short term memory is only ten seconds long, there’s no need to rewrite the whole conversation everytime.
Because of your stubborn refusal to actually read anything I’ve written, I copy it back down in hopes that you’ll see your own words and actually continue reading beyond the end of the quote. Though, admittedly, it’s not going well at the moment.
Noon, midday or the number of hours is anything but arbitrary.
Noon is not, correct. Midday is not, correct. But while the fact that we’ve assigned any particular celestial event a number is more logical than a horoscope, it’s no less arbitrary. Are you truly suggesting that our lives would be significantly different if we all grew up in a world where a new day began at noon, and so we called noon 0000? Or if we began a new day when most people woke up, and so we indexed noon at 0600 so that people could wake up at 0000?
Yes, you going into that world from this one would be startled (or, judging by your tone here, deeply offended), but any version of you that grew up in that world would think it very normal and logical.
You being ignorant of the reason doesn’t make you right, it makes you ignorant.
Interesting. Because I’ve given actual facts here proving me correct about the reason for these things, but you continue to assert that I’m wrong and there’s definitely a reason (even though you won’t say what it is).
Notice anything about the divisibility of the numbers? No…?
You mean the fact that 12 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6? That is a nifty coincidence, isn’t it? Definitely super useful. Good thing the Egyptians liked twelve constellations, huh? But it wasn’t in any way intentional. Might be why it caught on, though.
Apologies, I do understand your country is going through a tough time.
Thank you, I appreciate it. It, uh…it’s not great over here.
Like I said, I’m not your history teacher, and you are just completely ignorant of the subject. You have to know how dumb you are though, but your ego just keeps ripping right through.
Egyptians liked the stars and thought those 12 constellations were important, so they divided up the night into that many hours. Just like I said.
See I could teach you. Then you’d pretend you knew it all the time.
I probably wouldn’t need to pretend, since you’re pathologically resistant to actually reading what I write. In fact, you’re probably going to reply to me about how “no, you idiot, it’s because the Egyptians thought that a particular set of 12 constellations were important!” next, aren’t you?
See, you keep on asserting your intelligence and telling me I’m wrong, but then just leaving the assertion there by itself and telling me to do my own research. It’s not my job to prove your point for you, though. That’s up to you.
You’re just a pseudointellectual
I believe I already answered that assertion in the affirmative, yes.
and didn’t even click “timekeeping in other cultures” when he did his pathetic Wikipedia browsing.
Actually I did click that one just now! and it proves that whole thing I said in some other comment about how other cultures have different timekeeping systems which means that it’s not inherent and is actually totally arbitrary! But since you didn’t read that, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that you didn’t know.
Which is exactly why you insist on your silly kittle ignorance.
Here’s a dramatic paraphrase of our interaction so far.
Me: “I mean, A isn’t any more or less logical than B.”
You: “YOUR AN IDIOT A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B OMG YOU SHOULD BE SHOT”
Me: “What? That’s a strange amount of rage for something so mild, but what reason do you have for your opinion?”
You: “LOL NO IM NOT MAD UR JUST TRIGGERED IDIOT. A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B AND I DONT NEED TO TELL YOU MY REASON BECAUSE YOUR SO DUMB YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF STUPIDHEAD. OMG YOUR SO MAD AND TRIGGERED LOLOLOLOL”
Me: “That…isn’t actually a reason? See, here are a couple of reasons.”
You: “SEE YOU DONT HAVE ANY REASONS AT ALL LOLOL TRIGGERED, A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B”
Me: “What? I just gave you reasons, did you not even see them? Here, have some more. And why do you keep yelling the same thing over and over again?”
You: “KEK YOU ARE IGNORANT, A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B, U DONT KNOW ANYTHING, DONT HAVE ANY REASONS LOLOLOL”
Me: “…blink twice if you’re in danger, bro.”
You’re plain wrong. I will tell you eventually how badly, but now I’m just gonna sip on your dumb juice. So sweet.
Ok, this is going to sound like an insult, but it’s actually an honest question: are you literally a pre-teen? Because all this time I had been assuming you’re an adult, but if I’m dealing with a child I should probably recalibrate my expectations. It would certainly explain your ludicrous position, your bizarre rage disguised under the laughter, and the phrase “dumb juice.”
You keep writing essays because you’re too fucking ashamed to admit you didn’t understand what the word arbitrary means.
Remember how I’ve said, several times, that even your argument about 12, 24, 30 or 100 hour systems being “arbitrary” is wrong? Why not include that in your essay? Is it because you’re ashamed of having been wrong, because you like to pretend to understand shit and pretend to be smart. Because online, there’s no-one to mock you for it. Or, so you thought. ;>
You get angry because I refuse to give you the answers and the only place someone with your intelligence will look is fkin Wikipedia. The timekeeping in my culture isn’t even mentioned there.
How many language did you speak again? ;>
I’ll get back to you on your other pathetic essay tomorrow, just woke up to pee.
any particular celestial event a number is more logical than a horoscope, it’s no less arbitrary
Again, just because you don’t know the reason for a thing doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, sweetums.
Oh no, you think you’ve “given facts”, just like a child playing at kitchen with mudcakes has “actually cooked”.
No [I don’t notice anything about the divisibility of hours]…?
Again, just because YOU personally fail to see logic in something doesn’t mean it doesn’t have any. And it’s just driving you mental having me not tell you the answers so you can pretend to have known all the time.
The fact you’re writing every one of my “replies” as if I’m yelling it’s just candy to my eyes, because it tells me you’re fucking seething at me mocking you. Cheers bruv. <3
Bro, just admit that you’re surprised I actually do know something about the history of timekeeping and we can move on. Or tell me where you think I’m wrong and we can move on. One way or another, this “huehue I know somethin u dont know” routine is getting really tired, so I’m going to start ignoring the unsourced nonsense.
You keep writing essays
Actually, they’re a pretty standard length for me. I’m fairly verbose, and always have been.
you didn’t understand what the word arbitrary means.
Unsupported assertions are definitely a great way to convince me, that’s for sure. We’ve definitely proven that.
Remember how I’ve said, several times, that even your argument about 12, 24, 30 or 100 hour systems being “arbitrary” is wrong? Why not include that in your essay?
Said, yes. With no support or evidence for your claims, so I treat them as nonsense.
Is it because you’re ashamed of having been wrong,
I absolutely love being proven wrong, actually! I like learning new things, and it totally floors people when I admit that they were right and apologize. But you have yet to actually prove literally anything, so I’m not particularly hopeful about that this time.
Because online, there’s no-one to mock you for it. Or, so you thought. ;>
It’s just random insults if you don’t have any facts to back it up. You look like an abusive fool, rather than like you’ve won an argument. I’ve been in online arguments, in one forum or another, since like…1995? Earlier? Not sure. There are definitely always idiots around to mock me for what they think is being wrong.
You get angry
Not angry in the least. I’m having a great time.
because I refuse to give you the answers
Usually people with any evidence at all are super excited to provide it in defense of their point. The fact that you aren’t even telling me what your evidence says indicates that you don’t have any.
and the only place someone with your intelligence will look is fkin Wikipedia.
I read a book a while ago about the history of timekeeping. I honestly hadn’t even seen the Wikipedia article until today.
The timekeeping in my culture isn’t even mentioned there.
But wait! I thought everyone had an inherent understanding of the current worldwide timekeeping method! How could there possibly be any other cultures’ timekeeping methods?
How many language did you speak again? ;>
Non sequitur.
I’ll get back to you on your other pathetic essay tomorrow, just woke up to pee.
I’m honored.
Again, just because you don’t know the reason for a thing doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, sweetums.
Pretty sure I told you that, just a few comments ago.
No [I don’t notice anything about the divisibility of hours]…?
You have completely mischaracterized my entire comment.
it’s just driving you mental having me not tell you the answers so you can pretend to have known all the time.
No, I’m just more and more confident all the time that you don’t actually have a point and are just hoping that I’ll supply one for you in the process of trying to rebut your nonsense.
The fact you’re writing every one of my “replies” as if I’m yelling it’s just candy to my eyes,
You’re the one that came in swinging with insults and name-calling. The fallacies are the logical equivalent of shouting and banging the table. I quote your replies because I’ve seen enough bad faith arguments from you that I wouldn’t put it past you to just edit your comment or intentionally pretend like I’m responding to something I am not.
seething
You really are a pre-teen, aren’t you?
Anyway, this one was way more boring than your usual. You keep on diving deeper and deeper into bad faith arguments, and that’s just disappointing. You can do better than that.
You literally don’t know anything about the history of timekeeping. That’s the point. You keep pretending to, because you’ve read a Wikipedia article. And you don’t see why you’re being ridiculed?
The systems which humanity have used have not been arbitrary and every single “argument” you’ve made showcases your stupidity and ignorance.
How many languages was it you spoke again?
Give me your address and I’ll order a “grammar for kids” book and a dictionary for you. In English, as I presume it’s the only language you sort of understand.
It’s not about the length of your replies, it’s about who they’re formatted like a teenager with Alzheimer’s.
What do you mean “no support for your claims about timekeeping systems not being arbitrary”? You can’t be serious. You just can’t. You still don’t understand what the word arbitrary even means?
:DDdddddd
This is the best wake up comment I could’ve read. Put a laugh in my day right away hahaha thank you. Also I don’t believe a person like you has read a single book in your entire life.
You literally don’t know anything about the history of timekeeping. That’s the point.
Assertion isn’t evidence. You have yet to actually say a single thing about why you think I’m wrong, just that you do. This is not how argumentation and debate work.
And you don’t see why you’re being ridiculed?
This isn’t ridicule, it’s just baseless name-calling. This is elementary school-level insults. If it were ridicule, it would have any evidence behind it at all. The longer you go without providing any basis for your claims, the more clear it becomes that you have none.
The systems which humanity have used have not been arbitrary
Every system humanity uses is arbitrary. We decide and agree that something arbitrary is useful, and then we decide to imbue that arbitrary thing with meaning.
Words didn’t mean anything until we assigned meaning to them, and you can tell they’re arbitrary because the same combination of syllables can mean something completely different in another language. For someone who claims to know multiple languages, you should be aware of that. Meters aren’t meters because they have to be; we decided that the distance light travels in 0.000000003335641s is a useful amount of distance. We could’ve easily defined it as the distance light travels in 0.000000003335642s and it wouldn’t be any more or less logical.
That’s how humans work. We give arbitrary things meaning. You insisting that the shapes in the clouds are definitely sharks doesn’t make them sharks. The shapes are arbitrary.
and every single “argument” you’ve made showcases your stupidity and ignorance.
Contrasted with the complete lack of argument you’ve made.
Give me your address and I’ll order a “grammar for kids” book and a dictionary for you.
Aw, buddy, you already tried that insult once. And it wasn’t funny the first time.
It’s not about the length of your replies, it’s about who they’re formatted like a teenager with Alzheimer’s.
Now that one’s funny! Good job. I knew you could do it.
What do you mean “no support for your claims about timekeeping systems not being arbitrary”?
I mean, support your claims that there’s something inherent about timekeeping systems. Something in our brains, or in the rotation of the Earth, or in the physical properties of light, or something that means that high noon has to be represented on the clock as 1200.
That’s what “support” means. That’s what evidence is. That’s what any reasonable, good-faith argument has to include.
You still don’t understand what the word arbitrary even means?
I am starting to think that you believe “arbitrary” means “random.” But that isn’t what it means. It means “randomly chosen,” or perhaps “selected without impetus.” The Egyptians didn’t have to choose twelve constellations; nobody was forcing them to, and there wasn’t anything inherent about them that required them to base a system of timekeeping around it.
This is the best wake up comment I could’ve read. Put a laugh in my day right away hahaha thank you.
You’re welcome! I love knowing that I’m helping put some joy into the world.
Also I don’t believe a person like you has read a single book in your entire life.
Oh, thanks for the reminder, I forgot to log the book I finished yesterday.
You still can’t even answer without making it like homework for yourself, singling out things as if this is some official debate. It isn’t. It’s just you equivocating.
“Wyaaa everything is actually arbitrary, EVERYTHING! So I was never wrong about it!”
The word “arbitrary” has a non-arbitrary meaning.
You can keep equivocating. It won’t change anything. You’re still wrong.
Yeah, I now I haven’t explained to you in detail why you’re wrong, but I assumed you can’t be so stupid as to keep arguing that all time keeping systems are arbitrary when I point out the divisibility of hours.
Keep on lying about having read a book, surely saying you’re not a moron makes it so that you magically aren’t. You’re ignorant of just how ignorant you are.
You definitely voted Trump with an IQ like that.
Do I need to paste the meaning of “arbitrary” here again?
Like I said, you don’t even speak ONE language fluently while I speak almost a dozen on some level.
“EVERYTHING is arbitrary words don’t mean anything I’m never wrong and I’m not lying or pretending”
When will you realise I’ve never taken you seriously, clown? You’re my ENTERTAINMENT.
You still can’t even answer without making it like homework for yourself, singling out things as if this is some official debate.
Homework? Nah bro. This is just what I do while I wait for my code to compile or my lunch to heat up.
“Wyaaa everything is actually arbitrary, EVERYTHING! So I was never wrong about it!”
Pretty sure that’s not what I said, but go off I guess.
You’re still wrong.
Citation needed.
Yeah, I now I haven’t explained to you in detail why you’re wrong, but I assumed you can’t be so stupid as to keep arguing that all time keeping systems are arbitrary when I point out the divisibility of hours.
Ah yes, the one actual fact you’ve managed to dredge up, and it also just happens to be absolutely coincidental.
Keep on lying about having read a book,
I don’t have any need for you to believe me. You may feel free to not. I know what I’ve done and who I am.
You’re ignorant of just how ignorant you are.
I’m 100% absolutely certain this is true! But not in this case.
You definitely voted Trump with an IQ like that.
Definitely not. Even if I was dumb enough, I’m not cruel enough.
Do I need to paste the meaning of “arbitrary” here again?
I put it into my previous response, so I think we’ve got it covered for now.
Like I said, you don’t even speak ONE language fluently while I speak almost a dozen on some level.
I’m so proud of you. I mean, it’s not relevant to the conversation, but still. Good job.
words don’t mean anything
lol, I actually have “WORDS MEAN THINGS” written on the back of a notebook somewhere. That’s pretty funny that you’d say that specifically.
I’m never wrong
I’ve specifically said multiple times in this conversation that I know I can be wrong and I love being proven wrong. You have yet to do anything of that sort, though.
When will you realise I’ve never taken you seriously, clown? You’re my ENTERTAINMENT.
Probably if you put it in all caps I’ll believe you.
No, it’s “you can’t just unilaterally decide that I actually mean the opposite of what I’m saying.”
Oh, for real? Well, if you’ve already decided what I mean, then by all means, don’t let me distract you with reality.
No, I’m definitely a pseudointellectual.
I have yet to see you actually respond to the points I’ve actually made, only points you think I’ve made, so I’m not sure how you have enough data to determine that I “lack understanding.”
I don’t know what to tell you, bro. We have twelve hours because the ancient Egyptians liked the stars. That’s just reality. I’d love to hear why you think it is, though.
Before you send it, I recommend you look up the word “context.”
So, again, no actual argument, you’re just hoping to keep this going for long enough to come up with one.
I didn’t think there’s anything arcane about something that can be easily found in a history book. But thanks for assuming I’m 14, that’s very kind of you. I haven’t been assumed to be that young in a long, long time.
You know, just because your short term memory is only ten seconds long, there’s no need to rewrite the whole conversation everytime.
Or did you never develop object permanence and you literally can’t answer a thing if it’s not under your eyes, because you’ll forget it exists?
When you’re saying hot is cold and up is down, I haven’t decided that your words mean the opposite. You’re just wrong.
Noon, midday or the number of hours is anything but arbitrary. You being ignorant of the reason doesn’t make you right, it makes you ignorant. Notice anything about the divisibility of the numbers? No…? Oh right, you’re probably American, so that’s probably offensive to ask you about your maths skills. Apologies, I do understand your country is going through a tough time.
I don’t decide the meaning of your words. The world sort of does.
Like I said, I’m not your history teacher, and you are just completely ignorant of the subject. You have to know how dumb you are though, but your ego just keeps ripping right through.
See I could teach you. Then you’d pretend you knew it all the time. You’re just a pseudointellectual lazy piece of shit who doesn’t know the first thing about the subject and didn’t even click “timekeeping in other cultures” when he did his pathetic Wikipedia browsing. Which is exactly why you insist on your silly kittle ignorance.
You’re plain wrong. I will tell you eventually how badly, but now I’m just gonna sip on your dumb juice. So sweet.
Oh I haven’t argued you at any point, and would never. I’d have an easier time teaching a dog to whistle, lol.
Because of your stubborn refusal to actually read anything I’ve written, I copy it back down in hopes that you’ll see your own words and actually continue reading beyond the end of the quote. Though, admittedly, it’s not going well at the moment.
Noon is not, correct. Midday is not, correct. But while the fact that we’ve assigned any particular celestial event a number is more logical than a horoscope, it’s no less arbitrary. Are you truly suggesting that our lives would be significantly different if we all grew up in a world where a new day began at noon, and so we called noon 0000? Or if we began a new day when most people woke up, and so we indexed noon at 0600 so that people could wake up at 0000?
Yes, you going into that world from this one would be startled (or, judging by your tone here, deeply offended), but any version of you that grew up in that world would think it very normal and logical.
Interesting. Because I’ve given actual facts here proving me correct about the reason for these things, but you continue to assert that I’m wrong and there’s definitely a reason (even though you won’t say what it is).
You mean the fact that 12 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6? That is a nifty coincidence, isn’t it? Definitely super useful. Good thing the Egyptians liked twelve constellations, huh? But it wasn’t in any way intentional. Might be why it caught on, though.
Thank you, I appreciate it. It, uh…it’s not great over here.
I just went to look it up and see if I’d somehow misremembered from the books I read a while back when I was hyperfocused on the subject. But lookie there! “In ancient Egypt the flooding of the Nile was, and still is, an important annual event, crucial for agriculture. It was accompanied by the rise of Sirius before the sunrise, and the appearance of 12 constellations across the night sky, to which the Egyptians assigned some significance. Influenced by this, the Egyptians divided the night into 12 equal intervals. These were seasonal hours, shorter in the summer than in the winter. Subsequently, the day was divided into intervals as well, which eventually became more important than the nightly intervals. These subdivisions of a day spread to Greece, and later to Rome.” (emphasis mine)
Egyptians liked the stars and thought those 12 constellations were important, so they divided up the night into that many hours. Just like I said.
I probably wouldn’t need to pretend, since you’re pathologically resistant to actually reading what I write. In fact, you’re probably going to reply to me about how “no, you idiot, it’s because the Egyptians thought that a particular set of 12 constellations were important!” next, aren’t you?
See, you keep on asserting your intelligence and telling me I’m wrong, but then just leaving the assertion there by itself and telling me to do my own research. It’s not my job to prove your point for you, though. That’s up to you.
I believe I already answered that assertion in the affirmative, yes.
Actually I did click that one just now! and it proves that whole thing I said in some other comment about how other cultures have different timekeeping systems which means that it’s not inherent and is actually totally arbitrary! But since you didn’t read that, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that you didn’t know.
Here’s a dramatic paraphrase of our interaction so far.
Me: “I mean, A isn’t any more or less logical than B.”
You: “YOUR AN IDIOT A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B OMG YOU SHOULD BE SHOT”
Me: “What? That’s a strange amount of rage for something so mild, but what reason do you have for your opinion?”
You: “LOL NO IM NOT MAD UR JUST TRIGGERED IDIOT. A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B AND I DONT NEED TO TELL YOU MY REASON BECAUSE YOUR SO DUMB YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF STUPIDHEAD. OMG YOUR SO MAD AND TRIGGERED LOLOLOLOL”
Me: “That…isn’t actually a reason? See, here are a couple of reasons.”
You: “SEE YOU DONT HAVE ANY REASONS AT ALL LOLOL TRIGGERED, A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B”
Me: “What? I just gave you reasons, did you not even see them? Here, have some more. And why do you keep yelling the same thing over and over again?”
You: “KEK YOU ARE IGNORANT, A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B, U DONT KNOW ANYTHING, DONT HAVE ANY REASONS LOLOLOL”
Me: “…blink twice if you’re in danger, bro.”
Ok, this is going to sound like an insult, but it’s actually an honest question: are you literally a pre-teen? Because all this time I had been assuming you’re an adult, but if I’m dealing with a child I should probably recalibrate my expectations. It would certainly explain your ludicrous position, your bizarre rage disguised under the laughter, and the phrase “dumb juice.”
Wikipedia doesn’t cover even the basics.
You keep writing essays because you’re too fucking ashamed to admit you didn’t understand what the word arbitrary means.
Remember how I’ve said, several times, that even your argument about 12, 24, 30 or 100 hour systems being “arbitrary” is wrong? Why not include that in your essay? Is it because you’re ashamed of having been wrong, because you like to pretend to understand shit and pretend to be smart. Because online, there’s no-one to mock you for it. Or, so you thought. ;>
You get angry because I refuse to give you the answers and the only place someone with your intelligence will look is fkin Wikipedia. The timekeeping in my culture isn’t even mentioned there.
How many language did you speak again? ;>
I’ll get back to you on your other pathetic essay tomorrow, just woke up to pee.
Again, just because you don’t know the reason for a thing doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, sweetums.
Oh no, you think you’ve “given facts”, just like a child playing at kitchen with mudcakes has “actually cooked”.
Again, just because YOU personally fail to see logic in something doesn’t mean it doesn’t have any. And it’s just driving you mental having me not tell you the answers so you can pretend to have known all the time.
The fact you’re writing every one of my “replies” as if I’m yelling it’s just candy to my eyes, because it tells me you’re fucking seething at me mocking you. Cheers bruv. <3
“Why don’t you even look at Wikipedia?”
“UGH NO NOT LIKE THAT”
Bro, just admit that you’re surprised I actually do know something about the history of timekeeping and we can move on. Or tell me where you think I’m wrong and we can move on. One way or another, this “huehue I know somethin u dont know” routine is getting really tired, so I’m going to start ignoring the unsourced nonsense.
Actually, they’re a pretty standard length for me. I’m fairly verbose, and always have been.
Unsupported assertions are definitely a great way to convince me, that’s for sure. We’ve definitely proven that.
Said, yes. With no support or evidence for your claims, so I treat them as nonsense.
I absolutely love being proven wrong, actually! I like learning new things, and it totally floors people when I admit that they were right and apologize. But you have yet to actually prove literally anything, so I’m not particularly hopeful about that this time.
It’s just random insults if you don’t have any facts to back it up. You look like an abusive fool, rather than like you’ve won an argument. I’ve been in online arguments, in one forum or another, since like…1995? Earlier? Not sure. There are definitely always idiots around to mock me for what they think is being wrong.
Not angry in the least. I’m having a great time.
Usually people with any evidence at all are super excited to provide it in defense of their point. The fact that you aren’t even telling me what your evidence says indicates that you don’t have any.
I read a book a while ago about the history of timekeeping. I honestly hadn’t even seen the Wikipedia article until today.
But wait! I thought everyone had an inherent understanding of the current worldwide timekeeping method! How could there possibly be any other cultures’ timekeeping methods?
Non sequitur.
I’m honored.
Pretty sure I told you that, just a few comments ago.
You have completely mischaracterized my entire comment.
No, I’m just more and more confident all the time that you don’t actually have a point and are just hoping that I’ll supply one for you in the process of trying to rebut your nonsense.
You’re the one that came in swinging with insults and name-calling. The fallacies are the logical equivalent of shouting and banging the table. I quote your replies because I’ve seen enough bad faith arguments from you that I wouldn’t put it past you to just edit your comment or intentionally pretend like I’m responding to something I am not.
You really are a pre-teen, aren’t you?
Anyway, this one was way more boring than your usual. You keep on diving deeper and deeper into bad faith arguments, and that’s just disappointing. You can do better than that.
You literally don’t know anything about the history of timekeeping. That’s the point. You keep pretending to, because you’ve read a Wikipedia article. And you don’t see why you’re being ridiculed?
The systems which humanity have used have not been arbitrary and every single “argument” you’ve made showcases your stupidity and ignorance.
How many languages was it you spoke again?
Give me your address and I’ll order a “grammar for kids” book and a dictionary for you. In English, as I presume it’s the only language you sort of understand.
It’s not about the length of your replies, it’s about who they’re formatted like a teenager with Alzheimer’s.
What do you mean “no support for your claims about timekeeping systems not being arbitrary”? You can’t be serious. You just can’t. You still don’t understand what the word arbitrary even means?
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This is the best wake up comment I could’ve read. Put a laugh in my day right away hahaha thank you. Also I don’t believe a person like you has read a single book in your entire life.
Assertion isn’t evidence. You have yet to actually say a single thing about why you think I’m wrong, just that you do. This is not how argumentation and debate work.
This isn’t ridicule, it’s just baseless name-calling. This is elementary school-level insults. If it were ridicule, it would have any evidence behind it at all. The longer you go without providing any basis for your claims, the more clear it becomes that you have none.
Every system humanity uses is arbitrary. We decide and agree that something arbitrary is useful, and then we decide to imbue that arbitrary thing with meaning.
Words didn’t mean anything until we assigned meaning to them, and you can tell they’re arbitrary because the same combination of syllables can mean something completely different in another language. For someone who claims to know multiple languages, you should be aware of that. Meters aren’t meters because they have to be; we decided that the distance light travels in 0.000000003335641s is a useful amount of distance. We could’ve easily defined it as the distance light travels in 0.000000003335642s and it wouldn’t be any more or less logical.
That’s how humans work. We give arbitrary things meaning. You insisting that the shapes in the clouds are definitely sharks doesn’t make them sharks. The shapes are arbitrary.
Contrasted with the complete lack of argument you’ve made.
Aw, buddy, you already tried that insult once. And it wasn’t funny the first time.
Now that one’s funny! Good job. I knew you could do it.
I mean, support your claims that there’s something inherent about timekeeping systems. Something in our brains, or in the rotation of the Earth, or in the physical properties of light, or something that means that high noon has to be represented on the clock as 1200.
That’s what “support” means. That’s what evidence is. That’s what any reasonable, good-faith argument has to include.
I am starting to think that you believe “arbitrary” means “random.” But that isn’t what it means. It means “randomly chosen,” or perhaps “selected without impetus.” The Egyptians didn’t have to choose twelve constellations; nobody was forcing them to, and there wasn’t anything inherent about them that required them to base a system of timekeeping around it.
You’re welcome! I love knowing that I’m helping put some joy into the world.
Oh, thanks for the reminder, I forgot to log the book I finished yesterday.
You still can’t even answer without making it like homework for yourself, singling out things as if this is some official debate. It isn’t. It’s just you equivocating.
“Wyaaa everything is actually arbitrary, EVERYTHING! So I was never wrong about it!”
The word “arbitrary” has a non-arbitrary meaning.
You can keep equivocating. It won’t change anything. You’re still wrong.
Yeah, I now I haven’t explained to you in detail why you’re wrong, but I assumed you can’t be so stupid as to keep arguing that all time keeping systems are arbitrary when I point out the divisibility of hours.
Keep on lying about having read a book, surely saying you’re not a moron makes it so that you magically aren’t. You’re ignorant of just how ignorant you are.
You definitely voted Trump with an IQ like that.
Do I need to paste the meaning of “arbitrary” here again?
Like I said, you don’t even speak ONE language fluently while I speak almost a dozen on some level.
“EVERYTHING is arbitrary words don’t mean anything I’m never wrong and I’m not lying or pretending”
When will you realise I’ve never taken you seriously, clown? You’re my ENTERTAINMENT.
Homework? Nah bro. This is just what I do while I wait for my code to compile or my lunch to heat up.
Pretty sure that’s not what I said, but go off I guess.
Citation needed.
Ah yes, the one actual fact you’ve managed to dredge up, and it also just happens to be absolutely coincidental.
I don’t have any need for you to believe me. You may feel free to not. I know what I’ve done and who I am.
I’m 100% absolutely certain this is true! But not in this case.
Definitely not. Even if I was dumb enough, I’m not cruel enough.
I put it into my previous response, so I think we’ve got it covered for now.
I’m so proud of you. I mean, it’s not relevant to the conversation, but still. Good job.
lol, I actually have “WORDS MEAN THINGS” written on the back of a notebook somewhere. That’s pretty funny that you’d say that specifically.
I’ve specifically said multiple times in this conversation that I know I can be wrong and I love being proven wrong. You have yet to do anything of that sort, though.
Probably if you put it in all caps I’ll believe you.