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    Mike Rowe.

    Had a really good following when he did Dirty Jobs and then did a hard pivot to conservative, anti-union, pro-profiteering talking head.

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    Snoop Dogg. Black man playing songs at an orange man’s klan rally, at this point Martha Stewart is more gangster than he is.

    By the same token, my respect for Kendrick went up 1000% after his halftime show.

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      Yup, coward has been in hiding since the first negative articles came out. Just another sad human showing his greed over what is right.

      Hmm maybe there should be a new strain out there sold as Snoop Sellout Kush.

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        If I ran a grow op I’d name that strain and funnel the proceeds to help trans kids with counseling and support, just to point the middle finger directly at their latest boogeyman.

        Shame since he’s been an icon for so long and helped a lot of kids with the football program, but I guess above a certain level of wealth the only religion you follow is money and everything else including morality is just an opportunity for profit.

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    Will Smith because of what he did to Chris Rock. Guy isn’t a genuine role model anymore.

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      Came here for this one. Fuck “separate the art from the artist.” I will never read one of his books again.

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        If he wasn’t preachy/performative about his “feminism” it wouldn’t be as awful

        Feminism is in quotes because IMO he doesn’t believe what he preaches

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          Yep. And to think I used to admire him. I’ve had some modest success as a published science fiction and fantasy writer, and I specifically cited him as inspiration for one of my published stories.

          Wish I could take it back.

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          He believes it, he just doesn’t practice it.

          Like most men in power, they use it as a way to get close to people they can assert their power or dominance over.

          I think he believes he’s actually a feminist. it’s a subtle difference, but an important one. He genuinely believes he’s a good guy and the things he does helps more women than it hurts.

          That’s why he’s a piece of shit and so dangerous. He believes his own lies.

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        She’s not the only one to do that. Many people precede her, including Rice and Biegel. Same within the retelling of myths and legends. Writers have been doing that for decades. There’s no need to make stuff up, he’s a horrible person without made up nonsense.

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          If you read her you’ll see what I am talking about.

          One good example. In her book ‘Death’s Master’ she came up with hte idea that Death and Delusion were relatives. He expanded on that idea with The Sandman.

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      too bad he really 2 good series going on, the series cancelled them both, not because of his sexual harrasment/assaults, now they cant continue due to publicity anyways.

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      Wasn’t really a fan as such, but I also though as far as billionaires go he’s at least useful to humanity.
      He should have kept to what he was good at - marketing big ideas. Unfortunately narcissists don’t work that way.

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        as far as billionaires go he’s at least useful to humanity.

        There’s a good argument that this is still true (PS: in historical terms) despite everything. Without China the green-tech revolution would be decades behind schedule, and it took Tesla to make China move.

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          I agree that Ellen was significant in the race to EVs, but that is definitely in the past. As far as present tense goes, nah.

          The tenses are a bit murky “I used to think ‘he’s useful…’” “this still true…” could kinda go either way, but it sounds like you’re saying it applies today, and nah.

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            Just read what I write, rather than what you think I might be trying to say.

            I can’t find it now but there was an analysis a few days ago by a reputable source, maybe in The Atlantic, which said basically what I just said. It’s not scandalous. The guy has an impressive record as a business leader. Perhaps not as a product specialist, or even an engineer, but as force for making things happen at the company level.

            Anyway, apparently there’s not much willingness to engage in nuanced debate here so that’s all I have to say.

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        he always seem wierd to me wasnt a good first impression, he made news, i assume many people found out who he was when announcing the sub/calling the thai seals pedos.

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          Yeah, that thing with the Thai soccer team really opened my eyes. Later, I saw a documentary on the situation, and there was no way that his submarine idea could have worked, it simply would not have fit.

          But rather than accept that those on the scene were more knowledgeable about the situation, he immediately jumped to calling the rescuers pedos, as if the only reason they wanted to rescue them was because they were young boys, and wanted to molest them. What an unhinged take, proving that he was more interested in playing the hero and feeding his ego, than actually rescuing anyone. He saw an opportunity for global promotion, and was pissed when it was denied to him.

          It showed me a side that we hadn’t seen before, but turned out to be his real personality.

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            What an unhinged take, proving that he was more interested in playing the hero and feeding his ego, than actually rescuing anyone.

            Worse, it showed he couldn’t get his head around anyone else genuinely wanting to save children from dying. That was mask-off for his sociopathy.

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    Bill Cosby. I was raised on Bill Cosby albums and TV shows. I can’t listen to him any more.

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      My family had “The Best of Bill Cosby” album when I was a kid and we listened to it a lot. Some of the funniest bits on that album and I always had warm memories sitting and listening to them.

      Then it comes out that he’s a complete monster. All those family memories tied to that now, it really sucks.

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      He’s one of the few people who’s work I can separate from the monster, but only because it was my first comedy album as a kid

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    American Beauty got me to like Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey got me to stop liking Kevin Spacey.

    E: mother ducking autocorrupt

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      hes also gross how he continue to deflect even after all it came out, pedos usually stay quiet.

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        If he’d handled it like an adult, owned up to his past behavior, and done something to show that he’s sorry, he might still be working

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          pedos rarely instrospect or apologize, because they know its wrong. one of his victims was rapp i believe. spacey was doubling down by deflecting every chance he got.

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        Look up his interview he did on Fox News last year. He basically blamed black people for there current situation in themselves and also said that Biden was a terrible president and he didn’t outright endorse Trump but he danced around it.

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          go figures since hes still with ASSOCIATED with the WWE fanbase, and in general vince who is a trump donor.

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        Why the rock?

        I believe he refused to endorse Kamala and then like a true coward said he was keeping his political views private, its was pretty sad. The pathetic coward was terrified of a maga boycott of his garbage movies.

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        Also of his volunteering with Oprah in Hawaii with the huge fire. Weird seeing humans that have exorbitant amount of money that can actually help, and they’re just passing out water bottles to the people that lost their homes saying that “they wish they could do more to help/hope things work out for them.” It was a publicity stunt at the expense of people who lost everything.

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        hes also a very difficult actor to work with in the industry, hes known as the “ellen degeneres” of male actors. must have as much if not more attention as the lead in a movie, or as much action or more action than other people. also hes pretty much attention seeker, and people compared him to dave bautista, dave is actor, and he only wanted the glory of a movie star.

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    It’s not a Lemmy thread without some Star Trek references

    Robert Beltran (Chakotey), Roxan Dawson (B’Elanna), and Manu Intiravmi (Icheb).

    All three of these actors fell off after ST:Voyager and became vile conservative shit posters. I know Robert especially likes to respond to anti Trump or anti Trump Policy tweets the other ex cast members make with “both sides” arguments.

    It’s sad in my eyes, but I do hold ST on a pretty high pedestal.

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        It’s extremely funny that she ruined her own career, including a likely spin-off starring her, because she wouldn’t stop comparing the criticism of conservatives and their beliefs to the mass persecution and murder of Jews during the Holocaust.

        It’s also extremely funny that she went on to make a movie with The Daily Wire, no one saw it, it got called woke for being an action movie starring a woman.

        To top that off, it’s also extremely funny that The Daily Wire is FULL of people who couldn’t cut it in Hollywood, so they kept self-financing their own shitty movies, and are now in financial trouble.

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          Her movie grossed $7.00

          That’s SEVEN DOLLARS

          And nobody in this thread remembers her name lol

          Critical Drinker and his entourage can fuck off

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      Well, I always kind of hated Beltran as an actor. Really disappointed about the other 2 though, I had no idea.

      Edit: I’m not seeing anything whatsoever on Google about Dawson related to Trump or even the Republicans, aside from one single Reddit post with a similar comment.

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        Weird. There used to be screen shot receipts I saw years ago.

        Maybe she scrubbed it and turned a leaf? I hope so at least because B’Elanna was my favorite character.

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    musk

    There was a time when SpaceX and Tesla seemed like they were gonna change the world for the better, less co2, going to Mars and he even gave a few talks at astronomy events where he spoke about how carbon capture on Mars could be used to make rocket fuel (which is real and has been done btw) and bring starship rockets back, and how that same tech could be used on earth to help fight global warming. The future was gonna be amazing and I honestly believed he was gonna help make it happen

    there’s a real reason marvel had him in iron man 2

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      Yeah, I was never a true believer or fanboy, but back before he lost his mind and fired his PR department, I was cool with the electric cars, space exploration, solar roofs, trains, and even fun flamethrowers.

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      Honestly thought there were gonna be downvotes on this one about people saying how Elon never invented anything or founded anything and it was all a persona. I believed it though and all that climate change stuff I thought was genuine.

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        Honestly thought there were gonna be downvotes on this one

        same but I still wanted to say it. ngl I kinda believe a lot of people base their opinion of what someone is saying just off the upvote/downvotes ratio without thinking about it as much as they could, so the upvotes on this one may have been caused by the first few people seeing it agreeing with it

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    why do you people love celebrities so much?

    if someone handles a ball nicely, writes a book, sings a song or plays guitar, like them for that and stop assuming they must also be wise in family advice or politically savvy

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      You have to be incredibly good at something for me to ignore you being an asshole. There are also certain things that are unforgivable even if the art is good.

      It’s like Cosby was funny, but he drugged and raped people, so it’s hard to laugh at him now.

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        Absolutely, but I think you misunderstood me…

        Let’s pretend for a moment Cosby is not a rapist; why do anyone infer that, because his comedy was good, he would be a good role model or have savvy life advice to give or know about politics, etc?

        I completely agree with you that it’s is almost impossible to enjoy whatever celebrities do (art, sports, etc) if they are horrible people. however, that line is subjective. Many would still like Cosby if we had found out he does not donate to charity or even if he is an absent dad or if he were a terrible driver… obviously the rapist thing goes too far

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          I’m gonna be the first akshually here and point out that Cosby is a bad example because he DID present himself as a guiding voice and role model and came to fame by creating a cartoon showing inner city kids how to be good to each other and handle life issues.

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            and then theres people say the only way he could actually do that was getting inspiration from his rapes and SA.

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          It really comes down to the calculus of how much I like them vs what did they actually do (with some things being truly unforgivable).

          For example, Sylvester Stallone recently came out in big support of Trump. To me, that makes him a huge ass. That said, I’ll still watch Rocky 4 if it comes on (all the while, in the back of my head thinking “wow, really, Trump… that’s your guy?”). So my perception of him and his movies change, but also it’s his right to be an idiot.

          In the same vein, Rob Schneider has recently made his whole personality a bitter old conservative "comic’. He really brings little of value to the table, so he can easily be dismissed. His value/drama ratio isn’t worth giving him the time of day – we’ll outside of this example.

          I can’t totally divorce the person from their content, but I try when their stuff is great and what they did isn’t too repulsive.

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            After hearing from Robs daughter how she was treated and what he was / is like as a person, I can’t like anything he did, and it all comes across narcissistic and creepy from that viewpoint. It’s like a game of power but with a curse. (whatever that game is really called,)

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            seinfeld is like rob,“why arnt you laughing at my jokes, are you all woke” no because you support israel government, and your wife is currently funding state side groups.

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            I also throw into the equation “How much time has passed?”

            I’m no massive fan but Mark Wahlberg is a good example, dude was a straight up violent racist asshole when he was young but the last thing was in 1992. I just cant bring myself to be mad at a 54yo for something he did 23 years ago.

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          The audience can make up their mind on how to enjoy entertainment without your approval of their thoughts and experiences . That’s how free will works.

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            I’m not granting or denying approval to anyone… I simply wonder why people do certain stuff

            Go back to reddit to pick fights with strangers there!

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              You gave way too hard of an opinion to call that leading question ‘curiosity’.

              Go back to truth social where you can live in your little echo chamber and maybe stop baiting. You’re too fragile to be playing that game.

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                  You don’t need to seek approval and apologize for having free will. Nor does anyone owe you an apology for their own. And they don’t owe you an explanation for having it.

                  Lesson 1, little grasshopper.

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      Speak for yourself.

      People can decide for themselves on what their standards are and what integrity means.

      As it should. It’s part of how a person learns independent thought and critical thinking.

      You’ve made your choice. Now Leave people to their’s.

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    Chuck Norris.

    As a kid growing up in Texas in the 90s, Walker Texas Ranger was cool. Early internet memes about him were hilarious.

    Then he said if he were elected president he would “Tattoo an American flag with the words, “In God we trust,” on the forehead of every atheist.”

    Ever since I’ve been the killjoy, saying “fuck Chuck Norris” to anyone making a Chuck Norris is tough joke.

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      jackien chan, he went SHILLING FOR THE CCP sometime ago, and was ousted from HK film industry for that, and he couldnt even make it as a party member. i saw him making news again because he was in cobra kai, that isnt going to save his fame. also abandoned one of his daughters in canada with no money,.

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      Same deal with Steven Seagal, used to think he was a badass. Now the shitbag is clinking glasses with Putin and can totally still beat up multiple stuntmen.

      You know who actually was a badass and didn’t say a goddamn word about it? Bob Ross. Most people don’t even know he spent years in an Air Force uniform before painting those happy little trees and trying to bring some joy to people.

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      I can’t even remember the last time someone said a chuck Norris joke…oh yeah it all died suddenly when he came out as an ultra Christian and revealed he didn’t understand how jokes work. He started correcting people that his tears do not actually cure cancer.

      I think MySpace was still a thing back then.

      What a bizarre moment that was.