NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!
Irony truly is dead.
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He’s read a few work-emails recently (by accident, naturally) and some of their jargon seems to have stuck with him.
It wasn’t before already?
There’s always a tweet:
Getting these vibes
Wanna take a trip to the George W. Bush Presidential Library and Museum and liberate this banner for the memes?
Congress?? Hello?
They’re too busy changing their pants after their wishes finally came true
“So we still get paid and we don’t have to do anything? That’s amazing! Haha, but why do I have to face the wall for this part?”
It’s weird to laugh in a time like this. Thank you, I guess.
Sometimes laughing is all we can do in times like this
In 2001 when The US authorized use of force on Al-Qaeda that, along with The 1973 war powers resolution gave the president (as in the position of president, not just Bush) unlimited ability to bomb anyone loosely associated with Al-Qaeda in perpetuity.
It’s what allowed Bush, then Obama, then Trump, and then Biden, and now Trump again, to use the military as they see fit for performing military operations against basically any state and group in the middle east.
It’s not a meme, it’s real
Why would I fight? I’ll just dodge the draft and fasttrack my presidential campaign.
My platform is ABWA: America Becomes West Again. Everyone does horses, cowboy hats, and guns again. You wanna travel further than 3 towns over? Train.
Please also make it wild as well, I really liked west world and that animation where Johnny depp is a chameleon in case you want some examples of what I’d vote for.
All US Marshalls will be androids, so you feel ok shooting them while living as an outlaw.
You will need a Bachelor’s in some liberal arts degree to qualify for the outlaw profession. Outlaws pay taxes only every other year, and are categorized as “self-employed” so you have to track your own taxes.
The photo should just be an Israeli flag.
A full payload of BOMBS was dropped on the primary site…NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE!
How the F*** can anyone use these two lines in a single paragraph. Absurdity here is comical
War is Peace. Freedom is slavery.
And now for your Five Minute Hate.Subjugation is liberation? Contradiction is truth?
A perfect presentation of American thinking.
" we bomb you to have peace with you"
That line sounds like it was written directly by Netanyahu himself.
That’s because they are the same genocidal, colonialist state.
“We had to destroy the village in order to save it.”
We come in peace
^shoot to kill^
Comical is… A word. I’m not even a smoker, but I feel like a cigarette and some liqueur.
I’m so fucking tired…
He really wants that Nobel Prize Obama got for waging 13 wars so he have to up the game.
GWAR has entered the chat.
We killed a bunch of people but now I want peace…
I punched you but please don’t hit me back or I’ll cry.
Soy Right, at it again
Just saw this earlier.
This was new to me, but confirmed true by Snopes
Stupid cunt actually wrote “Thank you for your attention to this matter.” Like he’s some douche reminding you to pay a bill.
Scummy landlord’s gonna scummy landlord.
Please tell me none of these bombs were nukes…
Fucking amazing.
PNAC gets its way in the end, despite at least 40% of Trump’s rise to political prominence being due to him being one of the few Republicans to criticize… you know, all the pointless meddling and wars in the ME.
… And Trump is almost single handedly responsible for all of this.
He tore up the nuke deal Obama made. He massively mismanaged every element of the Israeli/Palestine situation. Fucking stepson Kushner’s gonna figure it out, don’t worry.
Oh yeah lets piss off everyone and move the embassy to Jerusalem.
Beyond contemptible.
The man is a demon.
Kefka?
Is Trump Kefka, or is that an insult to Kefka?
Fucking childish demon clown that just wants to blow up the whole world so he can feel special.
They were not.
Hitting nuclear facilities with conventional weapons is just dirty bombs with extra steps. These attacks are a number of international high crimes, including the nonproliferation treaty.
Well, at least for once, something could actually be worse.
But of course tomorrow will happen so then that metric gets reset.
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I’d rather not be in the world of ruin timeline.
It’s the perfect crime. They bombed nuclear sites, which means there are going to be radiation spikes regardless of what kind of bombs they dropped, which means they could drop small nukes and probably get away with it.
That’s not how it works. You can tell the difference between radiation from a nuclear weapon and a conventional bomb used on radioactive materials. If they used nukes they won’t be able to cover it up for very long.
There’s different isotopes in the fallout, different radio spectrometry or whatever, but I think they could lie and say that the reason it looks like a conventional nuclear weapon is because Iran was hiding a nuke and they blew it up.
A nuclear detonation is a very delicate and precisely controlled process. It doesn’t just happen because a bomb goes off near the nuke. So sure, they can say anything, but there will be obvious evidence.
Speaking of saying anything, I’m going to look for reliable confirmation that this even happened. I’m not taking Trump’s fucking tweet for it.
Sure, in fantasyland
What’s so fantastical about the US using a tactical nuke and then lying about it?
Looks like that didn’t happen here, but I see no reason that it couldn’t.
Because nuclear detonations are very different to conventional ones, and every major power has satellites monitoring for them. They can’t be hidden. Hell, any university or weather service within 3,000 miles would be able to detect it.
Even conventional detonations on top of nuclear reactors or nuclear stockpiles?
See this is exactly what I am worried about.
The Fordow site is simply under too big of a fucking mountain for even our largest conventional penetrator bombs to actually significantly fuck up… unless you basically were able to pull off multiples of those bombs hitting the exact same point from nearly the same angle…
GPS guided bombs are accurate, but not that accurate… you’d have to throw like 20% to 40% of the entire US stockpile of these fuckoff huge conventional penetrator bombs to literally dig a hole through the mountain.
… Or, you drop one tactical nuke.
fucking not good
…
like this is what those air radar images were showing from 24/48 hrs ago.
That was probably the US’s entire fucking B2 Bomber Fleet deploying.
…
EDIT:
Yep 24 to 48 hrs later and…
Apparently around a dozen 30,000 lb, GBU57s were used, there are at least 3 distinct impact sites visible from Sat Imagery…
And oh hey well, a whole bunch of people are now claiming that… did these do damage?
Sure yes.
Did they ‘utterly obliterate’ the entire site?
Not according to Israel, and a good number of others.
So… 1) thank God they did not actually use a tac. nuke.
- Yep, they threw roughly 1/3 of our entire GBU 57 inventory at Fordow alone, and also the bombs were not accurate enough to inflict repeated, concise hits.
I can totally see Trump just having a bunch of random bombs dropped in the general area, declaring victory and telling everyone to fuck off though.
Iran will not dispute the strike was effective, and neither will Israel.
JDAM is supposed to have a circular error probable of 5m and it’s an upgrade kit from 25 years ago. I can definitely believe that a much newer purpose-built weapon can do better than that. The idea of hitting the same spot with multiple bombs might not actually be that unlikely
Yeah but we have bombs that can do about what a small one would do without using radioactive materials. If they want to nuke them with Trump they’d go for something big and spectacular, like when he dropped the massive moab
If you are talking about conventional bombs that are comparable to a small nuke in a ground burst or air burst scenario, yes.
But not for ground penetration, no.
A conventional explosive displaces, creates a pressure wave that fractures and shatters things, but that pressure wave behaves differently when applied to different materials.
A nuke creates a ball of plasma that is so hot that it evaporates everything inside the primary blast radius, and then also a pressure wave when that miniature sun displaces things and wants to expand outward in every direction.
A 20 kt nuke will make an all incinerating fireball approximately 200m in diameter… so that means everything in a 100m radius from the point of impact, is now plasma… and then on top of that you get the massive pressure wave extending damage further beyond that.
Nukes are considerably more effective as deep pemetrator weapons than conventional explosives are.
The GBU 57 MOP, going off publically available info, can destroy earth (meaning soil) 60m under its point of impact… but only about 18m under reinforced concrete.
A mountain, with a reinforced bunker complex under it, is going to be a lot closer to reinforced concrete than it is to soil in some dry lakebed testing range.
And Fordow is roughly 80m, possibly more, underground.
So… the tactical nuke can basically guaranteed do that mission in one accurate hit, whereas with GBU 57s, you’d need a number of them, and you would have to basically drill a bore hole by dropping successive bombs into the same hole.
And uh, last note, the MOAB is just shy of 22,000 lbs, has a blast rating of about 11 tons of TNT. Its not a ground penetrator though, it is thermobaric, a fuel air bomb.
The GBU 57 MOP is a 30,000 lb bomb, and… rough math works out to about… maybe 1 kiloton, max, probably less?
I guess we’ll have to wait for Warthunder to add the B2 and GBU 57 and then eventually someone will leak the real specs.
Noting like dropping bombs while professing a desire for peace.
We’ve become the United States of Israel. Don’t let anyone tell you differently. They put Israel first, not Americans.
???
‘They’ have been planning this strike in earnest at least since the early 00’s, and war with Iran was always part of the plan to fully colonize West Asia. Israel is America’s way to conduct proxy wars in the region, with a degree of autonomy like the Houthis and Iran, but still entirely dependent on their masters. Nothing was going to stop this expected geopolitical move, and don’t think a Democrat would’ve done this any differently… didn’t Biden say we would have to invent Israel if it didn’t exist? (double lol on that one) The mechanics of the empire continue regardless of how things are managed inside…
When things go the way they’re headed, remember the words of T.E. Lawrence, war with an empire is all flank and no front.
Maybe reading the book written by the guy who started this mess can help us end it.
He’s also a good writer and seven pillars of wisdom is a fascinating book.
have you heard of AIPAC?
I want to say “artificial intelligence political action committee”, but I’m thinking that’s not it?
close enough
Nothing says now is the time for peace like dropping bombs on people, amirite?
