The stepsister of a Colorado woman who was found dead along with her sister and teenage son at a remote Rocky Mountain campsite says the women fled into the wilderness after struggling to cope with societal changes in recent years, but they were unequipped to survive off the grid.

Exposed to several feet of snow, chills below zero and with no food found at their camp, Christine Vance, Rebecca Vance and Rebecca’s son likely died of malnutrition and hypothermia, according to the autopsies released this week. Authorities haven’t released the boy’s name.

Those reports contained another chilling detail that brought stepsister Trevala Jara to tears: The 14-year-old boy’s body was found with Jara’s favorite, blessed rosary that she gave the group before they left.

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    “God was with them,” said Jara

    Well God could’ve fucking helped a little bit then, eh?

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      He was a little busy forgiving a child rapist praying over one of their dozen victims.

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      I always felt Wilson in the movie “Castaway” was the most realistic portrayal of God for survival situations.

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        Pretty much. They keep digging and talking to the few primitive groups left.

        Some animals that are smart and social have funeral rites. Crows and elephants. Been known to visit locations where the dead were, leave items for their poor dead friend. A dead human and a living human are basically the same except something seems missing. We know now it is the arrangement but to our ancestors it was some component. Well if something is missing it must be out there somewhere.

        Funeral sites are built. People go there and look at the little stone. Maybe the thing that is missing is in the stone. Leave items and gradually question why they are doing it. It must be transactional. Offerings develop. I give this cup of wine and you help me with my crops this year. Ancestor worship is still common around the world and why should it not be? Your parents always looked after you and you are still helping them.

        The ancestor worship grew. Some ancestors were more important than others. Great warlords are still revered for centuries. Eventually morphing into a small god who protects the tribe. The small god is better than the small god of the other tribe. There must be a god greater than them all.

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            Sure, it isn’t like a human loses mass when they die. The difference between a dead human and a living one is how everything is hooked together. A rough analogy: take apart a Lego set, the bricks are still there but the structure is totally different.

            However, to a person without this knowledge it looks like there was something taken away. Breath/soul is how Mediterranean cultures traditionally viewed it.

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      He doesn’t lift a finger when a child is sexually abused by his representatives, he ain’t gonna give a shit here either.

      Any god is evil.

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      I don’t think god even exists. At least not the kind these poor creatures dreamed of

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        Oh certainly not. If he existed as advertised, the whole Vatican would be brimstone and pillars of salt.

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      So you would rather God step in and make sure we only make good choices completely overriding our free will? Sounds kind of authoritarian.

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        Forcing people to worship an indifferent God under threat of eternal damnation sounds authoritarian too. Which flavor would you prefer for your sky daddy?

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          You’ll be happy to know relatively few religious beliefs have a concept of eternal damnation.

          Really just two.

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            The rosary suggests these people were catholic, so I am shitting on the catholic God, not religion as a whole.

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              If they were Catholic than they can be presumed to accept and understand Catholic teaching that God does not directly interfere with the world or it is a violation of Free Will.

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                  I’m not here to debate Catholic canon with you, merely to inform you of what Catholics believe, as a former Catholic.