• MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    Well, I’m sure a human domicile would be a bit more robust than “alligator Alcatraz” so instead of 8 days, it might take more like… 8 weeks? To build something comparable for the homeless?

    Depending on how complex each housing unit is (bathrooms/kitchens/whatever) possibly more or less. Idk.

    But knowing that the world runs on capitalist dollars, there’s no profit in it. They can’t pay rent, they don’t have any money, and they would actively cost you money, either in property tax, water, power, and/or food… Not to mention any replacement costs for any fixtures or furniture that’s damaged/stolen.

    Not saying the unhoused are thieves, but a nontrivial number of them are desperate, and desperate people do things that they otherwise wouldn’t consider doing.

    In any case, the solution to the homeless “problem” (being that people are homeless at all) is not just housing, but also community services to get any drug users into their respective rehabilitation programs, and anyone willing and able to work, into job placements… Mental health services…

    All of these things cost money and don’t yield any profits, so I understand why they’re not done. That doesn’t mean I’m ok with it not being done, it’s a shame that we’ve left a portion of the population to fend for themselves on the streets and we almost universally dehumanize them as less than a person because they’re homeless. They’re people. We should take care of them because they’re people.

    No child left behind, but anyone post highschool that’s living on the streets, fuck them… I guess.

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    ‘The land of the free’ has one of the highest incarciration rates world wide (source). It must be exceptionally safe around there, no?

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    The absurd irony of all these “Good Christians” testing the limits of their own religion’s capacity to incarcerate hypocrites, liars, and golden idol worshipers in a hell they would certainly end up in after they die.

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    Where are they going to deport all our homeless poor to?

    Remember? Those people who used to have homes like the one you could have possibly purchased? Perhaps a homeless person used to live in your house at some point in time? Maybe they lost their job, income or became ill or had an accident?

    They could be any color. But since they haven’t showered, maybe they look brown? Does that mean they can just be deported?

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    This is what conservatives are. Don’t forget it. They will always choose performative cruelty. It’s built into the very core of their diseased culture.

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    There is no profit in sheltering the homeless. Those ICE camps are all the rage amongst investors … particularly private equity firms. Private equity firms will do literal evil to make a few dollars.

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    Not just for the homeless, people in North Carolina are literally STILL FINDING BODIES, living in tents and cars, and can’t swim in any river or lake due to run off pollution

    This just shows the government is fine killing us via exposure to the elements

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    “Built a 3000 bed federal prison in eight days” almost sounds like they finally actually did something, until you realize:

    • The compound is located at the site of the Dade-Collier Training and Transition Airport, so there was already infrastructure
    • The area for detainees is a tent
    • Inside the tent is bunk beds, portapotties and a chain link fence

    But yeah, I also would have preferred our government take care of the unhoused (or just done nothing at all) instead of… this.

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    Daily reminder to all ICE agents. By signing up for ICE, you have signed yourself up for a lifetime of fear and criminal liability. There are Nazi concentration camp guards that were tried for their crimes in their 90s. There is no statute of limitations on crimes against humanity. Your names are recorded; your deeds are known. And you will face justice for your crimes.

    I want every Democratic politician to be repeating this every chance they get, a modern day “Carthage must be destroyed.” My greatest fear is that when this is done, and Democrats are eventually back in power, that they will fall back on the same suicidal tendencies that got us here in the first place. Obama came into power on the back of the criminal Bush administration, and his first act of office was to declare “it’s time to move on,” and to announce that no members of the prior regime would be prosecuted. And Biden did the same after the first Trump term. We need to be willing to hold people accountable. And we need to be talking about this now. We need to fully embrace the idea of prosecuting ICE agents for their crimes against humanity. We cannot declare it’s time to move on and to let them get away with what they have done.

    And no, “I’m just following orders” is not an excuse. Anyone who says that deserves to hang.

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      Yes, but that needs that we actually win, and not just be in the period of the slow death of the “free world” and the “rules based world order”, instead of heading towards a dark age of globalized neofascism and neocoloinalism.

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      This needs to be (if it isn’t already) a copypasta that finds its way onto every post and comment board concerning ICE and the current administration’s barbarous acts towards people who’s only crime was not being a white person who was born here.

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        I suppose I should add to this, “and do not count on a blanket pardon saving you. Crimes against humanity are violations of international law that cannot be pardoned.”

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        the nuremberg trials were a joke. only 22 people were tried and it was more of a political show to show to their own soldiers who fought hard that they were doing something about the nazis, while actually they abducted a lot of the scientists and made them work for themselves.

        i wish there had been actually meaningful trials. but i guess the ruling class is never gonna punish itself.

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    Haven’t seen it pointed out, yet, but it should be noted that a chain link fence and some tents are structures that have been completely toppled by far less than 3000 people many, MANY times. These are very fragile things they are building.

    On an unrelated note, bolt cutters are not expensive and neither are ground bloomers, tape, and plyers.

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      It’s the surrounding Everglades that becomes the problem. But idk, I don’t think I’d give a fuck vs staying there and dying from West Nile, flooding, heat stroke, hurricane, atrocities, etc… and with 3000 people, you have a much better chance

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    “The director tells me it could have been done in 72 hours if we were allowed to make it even more inhumane / unsafe”

    Fixed that for you.

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      Don’t forget to make the working conditions inhumane and unsafe for the workers building the place! That could probably shave off a few hours, too!

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    It’s not that difficult to build a concentration camp with shitty cots, inadequate facilities, and hazardousness as a feature built in on nearly unlivable land in the Everglades.

    It likely is slightly more difficult to build housing for homeless people unless you’re trying to build death trap, concentration camp housing for them as well.

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      unless you’re trying to build death trap, concentration camp housing for them as well.

      Just you wait, I’m sure that’s in the works too.

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      Yeah, I get the point they’re trying to make, but this is a pretty silly comparison. It’s like “oh, so you can eat a 6” sub but not an 18" pizza? Pff, fake hunger".